Revisions to Comyn Chronology

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Revisions to Comyn Chronology

Legg inn av Gjest » 06 aug 2006 17:41:02

Dear Fellow listers,
Earlier I attempted to state the chronology of
certain members of the Comyn family and failed to take several factors into
account the following is an attempt to remedy that.
Richard Comyn born say 1125 as He married Hextilda,
daughter of Uchtred / Huchtred, lord of Tynedale by Bethoc daughter of Donald VI
(or III) Bane, King of the Scots. Richard died between 1179- 1182, when
Hextida married Malcolm mac Maddan, Earl of Athol. Richard served as Justiciar of
Lothian and witnessed 6 of Malcolm IV`s charters and 33 of William the Lion`s.
William Comyn born before 1160- died 1233. He witnessed
his first Royal charter in 1178 and so was probably 15 to 18 at that time, as
it was probably of age to use arms in battle but had no title, though was of
royal blood. at this rate He died at 73, well, only the good died young unless
they were absolute saints. In 1199/ 1200 He , William Gifford and the Abbot of
Arbroath were sent on a diplomatic mission to King John of England, In 1209
He was a negociator of a treaty promising on King William`s soul that He would
abandon his claims to northern England. William Comyn left at least one of his
sons at Carlisle as a hostage, probably Richard, Jordan or Walter the last
being born say 1193-1196 as He witnessed his first royal charter between
1211-1214 and apparently fought in Moray in 1211/12 when the Earl of Athol (? Henry
or Thomas of Galloway, his son in law), and the rival claimants to the Earldom
of Mar, Thomas Durward and Malcolm mac Morgrund were also involved in the
defeat of the rival royal claimant Donald mac William and his son Guthred. In 1212
King William granted the hand of Marjorie of Buchan , estates and title of
Earl of Buchan to William Comyn as his 2nd wife. About the same time (ca 1214
King William took a daughter of John Haraldson, Earl of Caithness.an ally of
MacWilliam as hostage. Afterward, William Comyn was granted lands in Moray,
including Deer where He built Deer Abbey for the Cisterian order. William Comyn
held the office of Justiciar of Scotia many times commencing in or before 1205
and the family held that office in 66 years between 1205-1306.He witnessed 88
charters for King William who died in 1214 and was one of the King`s and his
son Alexander II`s chief councilors. The MacWilliams rose again in about 1228/9
under Gillesbuig and his sons and King Alexander II led a force to suppress
the revolt but it was driven back, then He sent Earl William (by now a man of
about 69) into Moray with a force. most likely his son Walter was co-
commander, Gillesbuig MacWilliam was defeated and his head, with those of his sons was
sent to the King. 1229/ 30 and Alexander II formed the lordship of Badenoch
(including Lochaber) and granted it to Walter Comyn. In 1231 John, Earl of
Caithness was murdered, In abt 1232 John Comyn, probably a near kinsman if not a
son of William Comyn, Earl of Buchan the hand of Maud, daughter of Malcolm, Earl
of Angus and Mary Berkeley together with the lands and title of Earl of
Angus. in 1233 William Comyn, Earl of Buchan died, In 1234, Alan, Lord of Galloway,
an ally of William Comyn`s died. In 1235 Alexander II, King of Scots
disallowed the succession of Alan`s illegitimate son Thomas as Lord of Galloway and
divided it between the husbands of his 3 legitimate daughters Helen and her
husband Roger de Quincy, who was granted Alan`s hereditary office of Constable of
Scotland together with a third of Galloway, Devorguilla, wife of Sir John de
Baliol, Kt of Barnard`s Castle and Christiana, wife of William de Forz,Count
of Aumale.If John Comyn the Red #1`s wife Eva were a daughter of Alan of
Galloway, She was probably illegitimate, given her husband`s approximate age. As
Richard, William`s eldest son from his 1st marriage to Sarah filia Roberti was
born between 1185 - 1190 and died in 1244, John`s birth probably occured
1210-1215 and marriage bet 1235-1240 .He died in 1277.
Sincerely,
James W Cummings
Dixmont, Maine USA

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