Warwickshire ancestry of Anne Andrew, wife of William1 Pynch

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John Brandon

Warwickshire ancestry of Anne Andrew, wife of William1 Pynch

Legg inn av John Brandon » 24 jul 2006 23:18:43

Has anybody checked into the ancestry of this lady? RCA, in the GMB
sketch of William1 Pynchon mentions the following about Pynchon's first
wife ...

MARRIAGE: (1) By about 1618 Anne Andrew [Hale, House 724 (no evidence
provided)]; she died during the winter of 1630-1 [Dudley 72].
(2) By late 1632 Frances (_____) (Smith) Sandford [NEHGR
143:109-10]; in late 1632 "Mrs. Francis Pinchon, the wife of Mr.
Willia[m] Pinchon," was admitted to Roxbury church, "she was a widow, a
matron of the church at Dorchester, where Mr. Pinchon married her. She
came with the first company, anno 1630" [RChR 77]. She died at
Wraysbury 10 October 1657 [Hale, House 724].

CHILDREN:

With first wife

i ANNE, b. say 1618; m. by about 1635 HENRY SMITH .

ii JOHN, b. say 1620; m. Hartford 6 November 1645 Amy Wyllys [
HaVR 606].

iii MARY, b. say 1622; m. Springfield 20 November 1640 Eliezer
Holyoke [ Pynchon VR 55].

iv MARGARET, b. say 1624; m. Springfield 31 October 1644 William
Davis [ Pynchon VR 55]. (This marriage date is given elsewhere as 6
December 1644 [ Hale, House 726].)

http://www.newenglandancestors.org/rese ... sp?print=1

Anne Andrew's ancestry is given on p. 50 of the 1619 Warwickshire
Visitation --

http://books.google.com/books?vid=LCCN1 ... by+watford

John Brandon

Re: Warwickshire ancestry of Anne Andrew, wife of William1 P

Legg inn av John Brandon » 03 aug 2006 21:50:39

This may be a helpful clue, as well:

Carl Bridenbaugh, ed., _The Pynchon Papers_, vol. 1, p. 101, postscript
of a 1671 letter from John Pynchon in Springfield, Mass., to his son,
Joseph, in England [this is vol. 60 in the series, _Publications of the
Colonial Society of Massachusetts_]:

Brother Davis sometimes speak that he thought he might be beholding to
you for a letter but you have writ him more since you went to England,
and my Cousin Joseph Halford in Warwick writes he would be gladsome to
see you at his house when you are in these parts. If ever you go that
way visit him.

These for my loving son, Mr. Joseph Pynchon, London.




Has anybody checked into the ancestry of this lady? RCA, in the GMB
sketch of William1 Pynchon mentions the following about Pynchon's first
wife ...

MARRIAGE: (1) By about 1618 Anne Andrew [Hale, House 724 (no evidence
provided)]; she died during the winter of 1630-1 [Dudley 72].
(2) By late 1632 Frances (_____) (Smith) Sandford [NEHGR
143:109-10]; in late 1632 "Mrs. Francis Pinchon, the wife of Mr.
Willia[m] Pinchon," was admitted to Roxbury church, "she was a widow, a
matron of the church at Dorchester, where Mr. Pinchon married her. She
came with the first company, anno 1630" [RChR 77]. She died at
Wraysbury 10 October 1657 [Hale, House 724].

CHILDREN:

With first wife

i ANNE, b. say 1618; m. by about 1635 HENRY SMITH .

ii JOHN, b. say 1620; m. Hartford 6 November 1645 Amy Wyllys [
HaVR 606].

iii MARY, b. say 1622; m. Springfield 20 November 1640 Eliezer
Holyoke [ Pynchon VR 55].

iv MARGARET, b. say 1624; m. Springfield 31 October 1644 William
Davis [ Pynchon VR 55]. (This marriage date is given elsewhere as 6
December 1644 [ Hale, House 726].)

http://www.newenglandancestors.org/rese ... sp?print=1

Anne Andrew's ancestry is given on p. 50 of the 1619 Warwickshire
Visitation --


http://books.google.com/books?id=pTMEAA ... &q=halford

Gjest

Re: Warwickshire ancestry of Anne Andrew, wife of William1 P

Legg inn av Gjest » 04 aug 2006 17:05:29

I guess the visitation of Warwick isnt available online now.

The part of the Pynchon ancestry which could use more study
is the Empson line. There seems to be a generation missing
in the standard sources.

Leslie


John Brandon wrote:
This may be a helpful clue, as well:

Carl Bridenbaugh, ed., _The Pynchon Papers_, vol. 1, p. 101, postscript
of a 1671 letter from John Pynchon in Springfield, Mass., to his son,
Joseph, in England [this is vol. 60 in the series, _Publications of the
Colonial Society of Massachusetts_]:

Brother Davis sometimes speak that he thought he might be beholding to
you for a letter but you have writ him more since you went to England,
and my Cousin Joseph Halford in Warwick writes he would be gladsome to
see you at his house when you are in these parts. If ever you go that
way visit him.

These for my loving son, Mr. Joseph Pynchon, London.




Has anybody checked into the ancestry of this lady? RCA, in the GMB
sketch of William1 Pynchon mentions the following about Pynchon's first
wife ...

MARRIAGE: (1) By about 1618 Anne Andrew [Hale, House 724 (no evidence
provided)]; she died during the winter of 1630-1 [Dudley 72].
(2) By late 1632 Frances (_____) (Smith) Sandford [NEHGR
143:109-10]; in late 1632 "Mrs. Francis Pinchon, the wife of Mr.
Willia[m] Pinchon," was admitted to Roxbury church, "she was a widow, a
matron of the church at Dorchester, where Mr. Pinchon married her. She
came with the first company, anno 1630" [RChR 77]. She died at
Wraysbury 10 October 1657 [Hale, House 724].

CHILDREN:

With first wife

i ANNE, b. say 1618; m. by about 1635 HENRY SMITH .

ii JOHN, b. say 1620; m. Hartford 6 November 1645 Amy Wyllys [
HaVR 606].

iii MARY, b. say 1622; m. Springfield 20 November 1640 Eliezer
Holyoke [ Pynchon VR 55].

iv MARGARET, b. say 1624; m. Springfield 31 October 1644 William
Davis [ Pynchon VR 55]. (This marriage date is given elsewhere as 6
December 1644 [ Hale, House 726].)

http://www.newenglandancestors.org/rese ... sp?print=1

Anne Andrew's ancestry is given on p. 50 of the 1619 Warwickshire
Visitation --


http://books.google.com/books?id=pTMEAA ... &q=halford

John Brandon

Re: Warwickshire ancestry of Anne Andrew, wife of William1 P

Legg inn av John Brandon » 04 aug 2006 17:29:10

This link still works for me:

http://books.google.com/books?id=pTMEAA ... &q=halford

Some of the links for recently downloaded books seem to be failing for
some reason, but if you repeat the search using the same search terms,
you can get back to the book you're looking for (means a lot of
searching through results, however).

Gjest

Re: Warwickshire ancestry of Anne Andrew, wife of William1 P

Legg inn av Gjest » 04 aug 2006 20:09:17

lmahler@att.net schrieb:

I guess the visitation of Warwick isnt available online now.

The part of the Pynchon ancestry which could use more study
is the Empson line. There seems to be a generation missing
in the standard sources.

Leslie

This is what I have from the Warwickshire Visitation of 1619, with some
additions [in parentheses]:

1. William Andrews (brother of John and Thomas); had issue:

2. William Andrews of Twiwell (sic), Northants [will, Northampton,
1612] ; married Bridget Risley of Oundell; issue:

3a. William Andrews of Rotley, Warwickshire, ff 1619; married
Elizabeth, daughter of Edward Bagshaw of Wilshamsted, Bedfordshire;
father of William, aged 3 in 1619, and of Edmond.

3b. Edward Andrews

3c. Thomas Andrews of London, dyrer [born c1587; will proved PCC
8.6.1641, 72 Evelyn] married [20.8.1619] Margaret, daughter of William
Daniel of Springfield, Essex. Father of Sarah (c1624), Bridget
(c1626-1627), Thomas (c1627-1627), Daniel (c1629), Elizabeth (c1631)
and Margaret.

3d. Nicholas Andrews of Lancashire [will proved PCC 1627, 44 Skynner,
as Nicholas Andrews, gentleman, of Little Lever), married Hetha,
daughter of - Lever of Lever, Lancs; father of John, Thomas and Samson
[admitted pensioner, Emmanuel College, Cambridge, 24.4.1634; BA, from
King's College, 1637/8; minister of Caton Denham, Somerset; will proved
PCC 1637 No 226]

3e. Anne Andrews, married William Pinchon of Springfield, Essex.

I believe I have extracted all the Andrews entries from the printed
genealogies, as well as from some of the unpublished Harleian MSS, some
of which attempt overarching connections between some incredibly
[literally] disparate "branches" of the "family, and I don't think I
ever fitted the Twiswell family in anywhere - i.e. nothing obvious in
the Northants Visitations of 1564 or 1618/9 (including Harl MSS 1094,
which is the most impressive linkage attempt).

The Charwelton Andrews had a branch at Staxton in Northamptonshire.

MA-R

John Brandon

Re: Warwickshire ancestry of Anne Andrew, wife of William1 P

Legg inn av John Brandon » 04 aug 2006 20:36:22

Interesting. Do you know anything about the Risley of Oundle ancestry
or connections to any Halford family?


mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:
lmahler@att.net schrieb:

I guess the visitation of Warwick isnt available online now.

The part of the Pynchon ancestry which could use more study
is the Empson line. There seems to be a generation missing
in the standard sources.

Leslie

This is what I have from the Warwickshire Visitation of 1619, with some
additions [in parentheses]:

1. William Andrews (brother of John and Thomas); had issue:

2. William Andrews of Twiwell (sic), Northants [will, Northampton,
1612] ; married Bridget Risley of Oundell; issue:

3a. William Andrews of Rotley, Warwickshire, ff 1619; married
Elizabeth, daughter of Edward Bagshaw of Wilshamsted, Bedfordshire;
father of William, aged 3 in 1619, and of Edmond.

3b. Edward Andrews

3c. Thomas Andrews of London, dyrer [born c1587; will proved PCC
8.6.1641, 72 Evelyn] married [20.8.1619] Margaret, daughter of William
Daniel of Springfield, Essex. Father of Sarah (c1624), Bridget
(c1626-1627), Thomas (c1627-1627), Daniel (c1629), Elizabeth (c1631)
and Margaret.

3d. Nicholas Andrews of Lancashire [will proved PCC 1627, 44 Skynner,
as Nicholas Andrews, gentleman, of Little Lever), married Hetha,
daughter of - Lever of Lever, Lancs; father of John, Thomas and Samson
[admitted pensioner, Emmanuel College, Cambridge, 24.4.1634; BA, from
King's College, 1637/8; minister of Caton Denham, Somerset; will proved
PCC 1637 No 226]

3e. Anne Andrews, married William Pinchon of Springfield, Essex.

I believe I have extracted all the Andrews entries from the printed
genealogies, as well as from some of the unpublished Harleian MSS, some
of which attempt overarching connections between some incredibly
[literally] disparate "branches" of the "family, and I don't think I
ever fitted the Twiswell family in anywhere - i.e. nothing obvious in
the Northants Visitations of 1564 or 1618/9 (including Harl MSS 1094,
which is the most impressive linkage attempt).

The Charwelton Andrews had a branch at Staxton in Northamptonshire.

MA-R

Nathaniel Taylor

Re: Warwickshire ancestry of Anne Andrew, wife of William1 P

Legg inn av Nathaniel Taylor » 04 aug 2006 21:07:57

In article <1154718557.444555.61720@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:

I believe I have extracted all the Andrews entries from the printed
genealogies, as well as from some of the unpublished Harleian MSS, some
of which attempt overarching connections between some incredibly
[literally] disparate "branches" of the "family, and I don't think I
ever fitted the Twiswell family in anywhere - i.e. nothing obvious in
the Northants Visitations of 1564 or 1618/9 (including Harl MSS 1094,
which is the most impressive linkage attempt).

The Charwelton Andrews had a branch at Staxton in Northamptonshire.

I see the published version of the 1619 Warwickshire Visitation does not
include arms for this family, though the inclusion of the pedigree would
mean that the family was accepted as armigerous. Do any of the other
sources consulted in this thread show what arms may have been used by
these particular Andrewses?

Nat Taylor
http://www.nltaylor.net

John Brandon

Re: Warwickshire ancestry of Anne Andrew, wife of William1 P

Legg inn av John Brandon » 04 aug 2006 21:51:48

The part of the Pynchon ancestry which could use more study
is the Empson line. There seems to be a generation missing
in the standard sources.

http://books.google.com/books?vid=LCCNs ... hon+empson

Gjest

Re: Warwickshire ancestry of Anne Andrew, wife of William1 P

Legg inn av Gjest » 04 aug 2006 21:55:40

mjcar@btinternet.com schrieb:

I believe I have extracted all the Andrews entries from the printed
genealogies

Recte: *visitations* (not "genealogies")

MA-R

Gjest

Re: Warwickshire ancestry of Anne Andrew, wife of William1 P

Legg inn av Gjest » 04 aug 2006 21:58:33

Nathaniel Taylor schrieb:

In article <1154718557.444555.61720@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:

I believe I have extracted all the Andrews entries from the printed
genealogies, as well as from some of the unpublished Harleian MSS, some
of which attempt overarching connections between some incredibly
[literally] disparate "branches" of the "family, and I don't think I
ever fitted the Twiswell family in anywhere - i.e. nothing obvious in
the Northants Visitations of 1564 or 1618/9 (including Harl MSS 1094,
which is the most impressive linkage attempt).

The Charwelton Andrews had a branch at Staxton in Northamptonshire.

I see the published version of the 1619 Warwickshire Visitation does not
include arms for this family, though the inclusion of the pedigree would
mean that the family was accepted as armigerous. Do any of the other
sources consulted in this thread show what arms may have been used by
these particular Andrewses?

So far as I know, no, nor any of the others that I can recall seeing.
I had a search done by Somerset Herald (now Norroy & Ulster) of the
College of Arms' records for all Andrews entries, and I don't remember
the Twiswell family featuring. Not all Visitation pedigrees
represented armigerous families, though; sometimes the pedigrees were
recorded and the arms "respited" (stood over, pending further
confirmation), for instance, or the pedigree was supposed to link into
some other record now apparently lost.

MA-R

Gjest

Re: Warwickshire ancestry of Anne Andrew, wife of William1 P

Legg inn av Gjest » 04 aug 2006 22:00:45

John Brandon schrieb:

Interesting. Do you know anything about the Risley of Oundle ancestry
or connections to any Halford family?

I'm afraid not; I only extracted the Andrews material, about ten years
ago, and cross-referenced it to various others extracts I had made (PCC
registers: before the jolly things went online!, Harleian MSS etc). I
could look at the printed Visitation next week for you, when I am next
at the Guildhall, in case they feature further therein, if that would
be of use to you?

Regards, Michael

John Brandon

Re: Warwickshire ancestry of Anne Andrew, wife of William1 P

Legg inn av John Brandon » 04 aug 2006 22:19:19

Hmmm. Well, I think the printed Visitation is avail. online, so
shouldn't be any need for you to check it at the Guildhall ... (right
?) ...



John Brandon schrieb:

Interesting. Do you know anything about the Risley of Oundle ancestry
or connections to any Halford family?

I'm afraid not; I only extracted the Andrews material, about ten years
ago, and cross-referenced it to various others extracts I had made (PCC
registers: before the jolly things went online!, Harleian MSS etc). I
could look at the printed Visitation next week for you, when I am next
at the Guildhall, in case they feature further therein, if that would
be of use to you?

Regards, Michael

Gjest

Re: Warwickshire ancestry of Anne Andrew, wife of William1 P

Legg inn av Gjest » 04 aug 2006 22:36:39

John Brandon schrieb:

Hmmm. Well, I think the printed Visitation is avail. online, so
shouldn't be any need for you to check it at the Guildhall ... (right
?) ...

That'll save me the trouble then.

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