Wulgrin of Angouleme & Ponce de Montgomery

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Merilyn Pedrick

Wulgrin of Angouleme & Ponce de Montgomery

Legg inn av Merilyn Pedrick » 20 jul 2006 02:11:01

I have Wulgrin II, Count of Angouleme married to Ponce de Montgomery, and

Wulgrin, Count of Angouleme and Ponthia de Poictu.

Are they the same people?

For the first couple I have no parents, but a child, William IV, Count of

Angouleme died 1179 in Mesina, Italy who married Marguerite de Turenne.

For the second couple I have no children, but Ponthia's parents are Roger de

Poictu, Earl of Lancaster (1064-1123) and Almodis, Countess of Marche, died

abt. 1117.

Best wishes

Merilyn Pedrick

CE Wood

Re: Wulgrin of Angouleme & Ponce de Montgomery

Legg inn av CE Wood » 20 jul 2006 02:11:02

Yes

CE Wood

"Merilyn Pedrick" wrote:
I have Wulgrin II, Count of Angouleme married to Ponce de Montgomery, and

Wulgrin, Count of Angouleme and Ponthia de Poictu.

Are they the same people?

For the first couple I have no parents, but a child, William IV, Count of

Angouleme died 1179 in Mesina, Italy who married Marguerite de Turenne.

For the second couple I have no children, but Ponthia's parents are Roger de

Poictu, Earl of Lancaster (1064-1123) and Almodis, Countess of Marche, died

abt. 1117.

Best wishes

Merilyn Pedrick

Sue

PRIDEAUX

Legg inn av Sue » 20 jul 2006 02:36:02

Hello,

I am new to the list.
The medieval line I am researching is that of Prideaux.
The main source I am using is
'Visitations of Cornwall' by J. L. Vivian.
Would this source be considered "reputable"?

Thank You,
Suzanne Prideaux
Texas


----- Original Message -----
From: Merilyn Pedrick
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Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 7:09 PM
Subject: Wulgrin of Angouleme & Ponce de Montgomery


I have Wulgrin II, Count of Angouleme married to Ponce de Montgomery, and

Wulgrin, Count of Angouleme and Ponthia de Poictu.

Are they the same people?

For the first couple I have no parents, but a child, William IV, Count of

Angouleme died 1179 in Mesina, Italy who married Marguerite de Turenne.

For the second couple I have no children, but Ponthia's parents are Roger de

Poictu, Earl of Lancaster (1064-1123) and Almodis, Countess of Marche, died

abt. 1117.

Best wishes

Merilyn Pedrick

Tim Powys-Lybbe

Re: Wulgrin of Angouleme & Ponce de Montgomery

Legg inn av Tim Powys-Lybbe » 20 jul 2006 07:54:01

In message of 20 Jul, pedricks@ozemail.com.au ("Merilyn Pedrick") wrote:

I have Wulgrin II, Count of Angouleme married to Ponce de Montgomery, and
Wulgrin, Count of Angouleme and Ponthia de Poictu.

Are they the same people?

For the first couple I have no parents, but a child, William IV, Count of
Angouleme died 1179 in Mesina, Italy who married Marguerite de
Turenne.

For the second couple I have no children, but Ponthia's parents are Roger de
Poictu, Earl of Lancaster (1064-1123) and Almodis, Countess of Marche,
died abt. 1117.

I can't find any earl of Lancaster of before 1267.

--
Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          tim@powys.org
             For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/

Leo van de Pas

Re: Wulgrin of Angouleme & Ponce de Montgomery

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 20 jul 2006 15:31:02

See at the bottom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Powys-Lybbe" <tim@powys.org>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Wulgrin of Angouleme & Ponce de Montgomery


In message of 20 Jul, pedricks@ozemail.com.au ("Merilyn Pedrick") wrote:

I have Wulgrin II, Count of Angouleme married to Ponce de Montgomery,
and
Wulgrin, Count of Angouleme and Ponthia de Poictu.

Are they the same people?

For the first couple I have no parents, but a child, William IV, Count of
Angouleme died 1179 in Mesina, Italy who married Marguerite de
Turenne.

For the second couple I have no children, but Ponthia's parents are Roger
de
Poictu, Earl of Lancaster (1064-1123) and Almodis, Countess of Marche,
died abt. 1117.

I can't find any earl of Lancaster of before 1267.

--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/

The people referred to I can find as Roger 'Poictevin' de Montgommery, Comte

de La Marche, and Almodis Comtesse de La Marche (La Marche comes from her
father). See ES III Tafel 637 here the daughter is Ponthia, but don't forget
ES is German orientated Gerald Paget calls her Ponce (Ancestors & Relatives
of the Prince of Wales Volume I page 65). I agree no Earl of Lancaster.

Hope this helps.
Leo

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