Apropos Lady Mary Bolles: woman styled "Baronet" in 1635

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John Brandon

Apropos Lady Mary Bolles: woman styled "Baronet" in 1635

Legg inn av John Brandon » 23 jun 2006 15:15:04

I've always thought it curious that Joseph Bolles' stepmother, Lady
Mary (Witham) (Jopson) Bolles was a "Baronetess of Nova Scotia."
_Transactions of the Cumberland and Westmorland Antiquarian and
Archaeological Society_, new series, 10 [1910]: 221, states that Mary
Bolles was "created a baronetess in her own right, the only one so
created" (p. 221, footnote, citing "Burke").

However, here is an example of a woman named in a 1635 will as "Dame
Elizabeth Chester, Baronet, his first wife."

http://books.google.com/books?vid=0HYqO ... ler&pgis=1

Would she have been a Baronetess of Nova Scotia, as well?


Gjest

Re: Apropos Lady Mary Bolles: woman styled "Baronet" in 1635

Legg inn av Gjest » 23 jun 2006 19:17:37

John Brandon schrieb:

I've always thought it curious that Joseph Bolles' stepmother, Lady
Mary (Witham) (Jopson) Bolles was a "Baronetess of Nova Scotia."
_Transactions of the Cumberland and Westmorland Antiquarian and
Archaeological Society_, new series, 10 [1910]: 221, states that Mary
Bolles was "created a baronetess in her own right, the only one so
created" (p. 221, footnote, citing "Burke").

However, here is an example of a woman named in a 1635 will as "Dame
Elizabeth Chester, Baronet, his first wife."

http://books.google.com/books?vid=0HYqO ... ler&pgis=1

Would she have been a Baronetess of Nova Scotia, as well?

I can't explain the will reference, but it was Elizabeth's husband, Sir
Anthony Chester, who was created a Baronet. In the 17th century, it
was common for baronets' wives to be styled Dame Firstname Surname,
rather than Lady Surname (as is the modern custom).

I seem to recall that Dame Mary Bolles was the only Baronetess created,
although other women have suceeded to baronetcies, but I can't
immediately lay hands on my source.

MA-R

John Higgins

Re: Apropos Lady Mary Bolles: woman styled "Baronet" in 1635

Legg inn av John Higgins » 28 jun 2006 06:10:02

FWIW, here's a footnote from the "Complete Baronetage" 2:414 concerning Mary
Witham Jopson Bolles:

"This is the only case of a Baronetcy having been conferred on a female, or
even being enjoyed suo jure by one. The rank of the widow of a Baronet has
been occasionally conferred, as was the case in the Baronetcy of Speelman, 9
Sep 1686, where the mother of the grantee was so honoured."

[end quote]

Despite the statement in CB, I seem to recall from the archives of this
group that there are [or were?] a few baronetcies in Scotland that were
inheritable by females and thus could be held suo jure by a female - but I
don't recall any specifics at the moment.

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John Brandon schrieb:

I've always thought it curious that Joseph Bolles' stepmother, Lady
Mary (Witham) (Jopson) Bolles was a "Baronetess of Nova Scotia."
_Transactions of the Cumberland and Westmorland Antiquarian and
Archaeological Society_, new series, 10 [1910]: 221, states that Mary
Bolles was "created a baronetess in her own right, the only one so
created" (p. 221, footnote, citing "Burke").

However, here is an example of a woman named in a 1635 will as "Dame
Elizabeth Chester, Baronet, his first wife."


http://books.google.com/books?vid=0HYqO ... YC&q=kirto

n+sadler&dq=kirton+sadler&pgis=1
Would she have been a Baronetess of Nova Scotia, as well?

I can't explain the will reference, but it was Elizabeth's husband, Sir
Anthony Chester, who was created a Baronet. In the 17th century, it
was common for baronets' wives to be styled Dame Firstname Surname,
rather than Lady Surname (as is the modern custom).

I seem to recall that Dame Mary Bolles was the only Baronetess created,
although other women have suceeded to baronetcies, but I can't
immediately lay hands on my source.

MA-R


Gjest

Re: Apropos Lady Mary Bolles: woman styled "Baronet" in 1635

Legg inn av Gjest » 28 jun 2006 09:55:16

"John Higgins" wrote:
FWIW, here's a footnote from the "Complete Baronetage" 2:414 concerning Mary
Witham Jopson Bolles:

"This is the only case of a Baronetcy having been conferred on a female, or
even being enjoyed suo jure by one. The rank of the widow of a Baronet has
been occasionally conferred, as was the case in the Baronetcy of Speelman, 9
Sep 1686, where the mother of the grantee was so honoured."

[end quote]

Despite the statement in CB, I seem to recall from the archives of this
group that there are [or were?] a few baronetcies in Scotland that were
inheritable by females and thus could be held suo jure by a female - but I
don't recall any specifics at the moment.

There are at least two: Dunbar of Hempriggs, and Dalyell of The Binns,
if I remember rightly; they were both held by women during the past
century, but no doubt after the CP article was written.

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