Descendants of Sueton Grant in R.I.

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Descendants of Sueton Grant in R.I.

Legg inn av John Brandon » 16 jun 2006 19:20:10

I believe the recent article in the _NEHGR_ on Alexander Grant who
married Elizabeth Cheeseborough of Rhode Island mentions a possible
kinship to Sueton Grant and Lodovick Grant, Scottish merchants in or
near Newport, R.I. I believe the article reached no conclusions about
Alexander Grant's ancestry. One of his daughters (? or granddaughters)
married a man named John Coffin Jones (which I found slightly
interesting because of my eight or nine lines from the Coffin family).

Here is an interesting passage in which the names Alexander, Sueton,
and Lodovick Grant all occur:

"Alexander Grant's ancestor [sic] Sir James Grant of Dalvey had been
granted a Nova Scotia baronetcy in 1688, but Sir James died without
children and his brother Ludovick did not assume the dignity.
Ludovick's second cousin and heir, Sueton Grant, also failed to take up
the title and sold the Dalvey estate in Inverness-shire to Patrick
Grant, the son of Donald Grant, Sueton's second cousin in 1701."

http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN0 ... X9gp8YE8MY

_A History of the Episcopal Church in Narragansett, Rhode Island_
reports that Sueton Grant was grandfather maternally to U.S. Senator
Christopher Grant Champlin ...

http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC0 ... eton+grant

http://books.google.com/books?vid=LCCN0 ... plin+grant

and that one of Sen. Champlin's sisters married John Coffin Jones:

http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC0 ... eton+grant


See also:

http://books.google.com/books?vid=LCCN0 ... ant&pgis=1

Thus it seems there may be a few American descendants of Sueton Grant,
as well as of his possible kinsman, Alexander Grant.

(Would anybody like to check the article to see if I'm merely
reinventing the wheel?)

Gjest

Re: Descendants of Sueton Grant in R.I.

Legg inn av Gjest » 16 jun 2006 19:40:08

I'd say you're reinventing the wheel after reading NEHGR 156
(2002):373-388. John Coffin Jones was the son of Ichabod Jones and
Apphia Coffin of Newbury, Mass., btw.

John Brandon

Re: Descendants of Sueton Grant in R.I.

Legg inn av John Brandon » 16 jun 2006 19:59:02

mhollick@mac.com wrote:
I'd say you're reinventing the wheel after reading NEHGR 156
(2002):373-388. John Coffin Jones was the son of Ichabod Jones and
Apphia Coffin of Newbury, Mass., btw.

Does it mention the bit about Champlin? Was the JCJ who married Miss
Grant the same one who married (? her cousin) Miss Champlin?

Maybe searching Google Books for conjunctions of the names "Sueton,"
"Ludovick / Lodovick," and "Grant" would eventually uncover the
ancestry.

Gjest

Re: Descendants of Sueton Grant in R.I.

Legg inn av Gjest » 17 jun 2006 14:12:41

John Brandon wrote:
I believe the recent article in the _NEHGR_ on Alexander Grant who
married Elizabeth Cheeseborough of Rhode Island mentions a possible
kinship to Sueton Grant and Lodovick Grant, Scottish merchants in or
near Newport, R.I. I believe the article reached no conclusions about
Alexander Grant's ancestry. One of his daughters (? or granddaughters)
married a man named John Coffin Jones (which I found slightly
interesting because of my eight or nine lines from the Coffin family).

Here is an interesting passage in which the names Alexander, Sueton,
and Lodovick Grant all occur:

"Alexander Grant's ancestor [sic] Sir James Grant of Dalvey had been
granted a Nova Scotia baronetcy in 1688, but Sir James died without
children and his brother Ludovick did not assume the dignity.
Ludovick's second cousin and heir, Sueton Grant, also failed to take up
the title and sold the Dalvey estate in Inverness-shire to Patrick
Grant, the son of Donald Grant, Sueton's second cousin in 1701."

http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN0 ... X9gp8YE8MY

_A History of the Episcopal Church in Narragansett, Rhode Island_
reports that Sueton Grant was grandfather maternally to U.S. Senator
Christopher Grant Champlin ...

http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC0 ... eton+grant

http://books.google.com/books?vid=LCCN0 ... plin+grant

and that one of Sen. Champlin's sisters married John Coffin Jones:

http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC0 ... eton+grant


See also:

http://books.google.com/books?vid=LCCN0 ... ant&pgis=1

Thus it seems there may be a few American descendants of Sueton Grant,
as well as of his possible kinsman, Alexander Grant.

(Would anybody like to check the article to see if I'm merely
reinventing the wheel?)

Gjest

Re: Descendants of Sueton Grant in R.I.

Legg inn av Gjest » 17 jun 2006 14:57:34

John Brandon wrote:
I believe the recent article in the _NEHGR_ on Alexander Grant who
married Elizabeth Cheeseborough of Rhode Island mentions a possible
kinship to Sueton Grant and Lodovick Grant, Scottish merchants in or
near Newport, R.I. I believe the article reached no conclusions about
Alexander Grant's ancestry. One of his daughters (? or granddaughters)
married a man named John Coffin Jones (which I found slightly
interesting because of my eight or nine lines from the Coffin family).

Capt. Sweton (Sueton) Grant ( my g*grandfather) d. 1742 of Providence

R.I. was probably a slaver and had a gunpowder business which his wife
continued to run after his death. I know of no connection between
Sweton Grant and Alexander Grant m. Elizabeth Cheeseborough.

Here is an interesting passage in which the names Alexander, Sueton,
and Lodovick Grant all occur:

"Alexander Grant's ancestor [sic] Sir James Grant of Dalvey had been
granted a Nova Scotia baronetcy in 1688, but Sir James died without
children and his brother Ludovick did not assume the dignity.
Ludovick's second cousin and heir, Sueton Grant, also failed to take up
the title and sold the Dalvey estate in Inverness-shire to Patrick
Grant, the son of Donald Grant, Sueton's second cousin in 1701."

Quite true. But not the Alexander Grant m. Elizabeth Cheeseborough as
far as I know. Alexander Grant of Dalvey (descendant of Patrick Grant
of above) m. Elizabeth Cooke of Jamaica.
.
_A History of the Episcopal Church in Narragansett, Rhode Island_
reports that Sueton Grant was grandfather maternally to U.S. Senator
Christopher Grant Champlin ...

Christopher Grant Champlin was the grandson of Capt. Sweton Grant of
Providence. Sweton Grant (of R.I.) had a letter of introduction which
identifies him as a Grant of Gartenbeg (3 secondary sources). The coat
of arms and motto for Grant of Gartenbeg are on his gravestone in R.I.
The Grants of Dalvey and Gartenbeg have a common ancestor. However to
date there is no primary evidence to make the connection.

My notes have daughter of Margaret Champlin m.Benjamin Mason (Margaret
Champlin dau of Christopher Champlin m. Elizabeth Grant dau of Capt.
Sweton Grant) marrying John Coffin Jones. Source "Champlin Memorial: A
Record of the Descendants of Geoffrey Champlin of Newport, R.I., in
1638, and of Westerly in 1661", pub. 1903

Regards
Vivien Martin

Gjest

Re:John Coffin Jones

Legg inn av Gjest » 17 jun 2006 16:43:18

Dear John

My notes have daughter of Margaret Champlin m.Benjamin Mason (Margaret
Champlin dau of Christopher Champlin m. Elizabeth Grant dau of Capt.
Sweton Grant) marrying John Coffin Jones. Source "Champlin Memorial: A
Record of the Descendants of Geoffrey Champlin of Newport, R.I., in
1638, and of Westerly in 1661", pub. 1903

Correction:

According to the will of Margaret Grant Champlin probate 23 Dec 1827
there are .... John Coffin Jones Jr., son of John Coffin Jones m.
Elizabeth Champlin dau of Christopher Champlin m 25 Oct 1753 .Margaret
Grant dau of Capt. Sweton (Sueton) Grant of Providence R.I. (see
previous posting).
Source: "Champlin Memorial: A Record of the Descendants of Geoffrey
Champlin of Newport R.I., in 1683, and of Westerly in 1661", author:
Geoffrey Champlin, pub 1903

Regards
Vivien

John Brandon

Re: Re:John Coffin Jones

Legg inn av John Brandon » 17 jun 2006 19:10:02

Thanks for the additional information ...


vivien.martin@gmail.com wrote:
Dear John

My notes have daughter of Margaret Champlin m.Benjamin Mason (Margaret
Champlin dau of Christopher Champlin m. Elizabeth Grant dau of Capt.
Sweton Grant) marrying John Coffin Jones. Source "Champlin Memorial: A
Record of the Descendants of Geoffrey Champlin of Newport, R.I., in
1638, and of Westerly in 1661", pub. 1903

Correction:

According to the will of Margaret Grant Champlin probate 23 Dec 1827
there are .... John Coffin Jones Jr., son of John Coffin Jones m.
Elizabeth Champlin dau of Christopher Champlin m 25 Oct 1753 .Margaret
Grant dau of Capt. Sweton (Sueton) Grant of Providence R.I. (see
previous posting).
Source: "Champlin Memorial: A Record of the Descendants of Geoffrey
Champlin of Newport R.I., in 1683, and of Westerly in 1661", author:
Geoffrey Champlin, pub 1903

Regards
Vivien

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