Campbell of Lochawe and Stewart of Ardgowan: a conjecture

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Campbell of Lochawe and Stewart of Ardgowan: a conjecture

Legg inn av Gjest » 24 mai 2006 17:11:17

Wednesday, 24 May, 2006


Dear Jared, et al.,

An entry in Notes and Queries concerning King Robert III
(1390-1406) states, "unlike his father and his successors in
the dynasty, had a very limited number of natural sons. By a
lady whom tradition connects with the house of Campbell of
Lochawe he had two sons, John and James. " While this
statement cannot as yet be proved or disproved, there is
evidence that indicates this may be correct, and to which
generation in the Campbell family this relationship can be
traced.

The record of dispensation for Sir Duncan Campbell and
his 2nd wife Margaret Stewart [dated St. Peter's Rome, 16
Kal. Feb. [17 Jan] 1422/3] gives the following:

' To the bishop of Argyll. Mandate to dispense Duncan
Cambell, temporal lord of the place of Lochawa, and
Margaret, daughter of Sir John Stewarte of Acchyngowan,
donsel, of his diocese, to marry notwithstanding that
they are related in the second and third degrees of
affinity and the third and fourth degrees of kindred.
Oblate nobis. ' [1]

The affinity relationship can be readily identified. Sir
Duncan Campbell's 1st wife was Marjory Stewart, a daughter
of Robert Stewart, 1st Duke of Albany and thereby grand-
daughter of King Robert II: Margaret Stewart was a
granddaughter of the Duke's elder brother King Robert III,
so they were related in the 2nd [Marjory] and 3rd [Margaret]
degrees of consanguinity.

The third and fourth degree relationship between Sir
Duncan Campbell and Margaret Stewart is not currently
proveable, primarily due to the maternal gaps in the
ancestry of the Stewarts of Ardgowan, but based on this
and the traditional Campbell connection of King Robert III's
mistress I would suggest that Sir John Stewart of Ardgowan's
mother was a daughter of John Campbell, younger son of Sir
Colin Campbell and his wife Helen de Menteith and ancestor
of the Campbells of Succoth. The relationship would then
appear as follows:

[ NOTE: this chart is conjectural. Those connections
not proven are indicated thus: ...........
Illegitimate connections, thus: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ]


Sir Colin Campbell = Helen de Menteith
_____________________________I__________
I I
Archibald (Gilleasbeg) John = NN
d. ca. 1390 = Isabella Campbell :
I Lamont :..........
I :
Sir Colin 'Iongantach' King Robert III ~ NN
fl. ca. 1336 - 1412 fl. ca. 1335-1406 I
I _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _I _ _
I I I
I Sir John Stewart James Stewart
I of Ardgowan of Kilbride
I I
I I
1) Marjory = Sir Duncan = 2) Margaret
Stewart Campbell Stewart


One might then argue that Sir John Stewart of Ardgowan
was the namesake of his grandfather John Campbell, but given
King Robert III's original name, this unfortunately provides
no noticeable support to the above conjecture.

If this conjecture is borne out, it will provide
further ancestral details for the Stewarts of Ardgowan and
Blackhall, the Campbells of Glenorchy and others. Anyone
having relevant documentation, comment or criticism, please
post to the newsgroup.

Cheers,

John *



NOTES

[1] Tremlow, ed. Cal. Papal Reg. VII:259.

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