Brian Timms' Site (Rolls of Arms)

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Doug Thompson

Brian Timms' Site (Rolls of Arms)

Legg inn av Doug Thompson » 19 mai 2006 18:38:24

I just looked at Brian's excellent site (http://www.briantimms.com/) and
noticed Brian was about to close it down. I'm sure many other readers of
this newsgroup also look at the site.

Brian suggests you copy anything you want before it goes at the end of May!

I've copied all of it.

Doug Thompson

Renia

Re: Brian Timms' Site (Rolls of Arms)

Legg inn av Renia » 19 mai 2006 19:26:43

Doug Thompson wrote:

I just looked at Brian's excellent site (http://www.briantimms.com/) and
noticed Brian was about to close it down. I'm sure many other readers of
this newsgroup also look at the site.

Brian suggests you copy anything you want before it goes at the end of May!

I've copied all of it.

How did you manage that? I can't navigate it. Comes up as file:///e etc

Gjest

Re: Brian Timms' Site (Rolls of Arms)

Legg inn av Gjest » 19 mai 2006 19:50:32

Renia schrieb:

Doug Thompson wrote:

I just looked at Brian's excellent site (http://www.briantimms.com/) and
noticed Brian was about to close it down. I'm sure many other readers of
this newsgroup also look at the site.

Brian suggests you copy anything you want before it goes at the end of May!

I've copied all of it.

How did you manage that? I can't navigate it. Comes up as file:///e etc

All gone! What a shame - it was brilliant.

MA-R

Chris Phillips

Re: Brian Timms' Site (Rolls of Arms)

Legg inn av Chris Phillips » 19 mai 2006 20:07:32

Renia wrote
How did you manage that? I can't navigate it. Comes up as file:///e etc

There seems to be a problem with the links on the main page, but if you copy
the part of each link URL after "netwebsite2/" into your address bar after
http://www.briantimms.com/ you should still be able to see the rest of the site.

Chris Phillips

Doug Thompson

Re: Brian Timms' Site (Rolls of Arms)

Legg inn av Doug Thompson » 19 mai 2006 20:28:01

On 19/5/06 19:26, in article e4l2l0$913$1@mouse.otenet.gr, "Renia"
<renia@DELETEotenet.gr> wrote:

Doug Thompson wrote:

I just looked at Brian's excellent site (http://www.briantimms.com/) and
noticed Brian was about to close it down. I'm sure many other readers of
this newsgroup also look at the site.

Brian suggests you copy anything you want before it goes at the end of May!

I've copied all of it.

How did you manage that? I can't navigate it. Comes up as file:///e etc

I used a webgrabber to take the whole site, but if you start at

http://www.briantimms.com/era/early%20r ... 20arms.htm

You can navigate all the rolls of arms from there.

Doug

Nathaniel Taylor

Re: Brian Timms' Site (Rolls of Arms)

Legg inn av Nathaniel Taylor » 19 mai 2006 20:56:09

In article <e4l4su$51o$1@emma.aioe.org>,
"Chris Phillips" <cgp@medievalgenealogy.org.uk> wrote:

Renia wrote
How did you manage that? I can't navigate it. Comes up as file:///e etc

There seems to be a problem with the links on the main page, but if you copy
the part of each link URL after "netwebsite2/" into your address bar after
http://www.briantimms.com/ you should still be able to see the rest of the site.

Yes, I noticed these link errors, and site-sucked the whole thing some
days ago after seeing the closure notice on his main page (I patched the
links on my own copy for home use). One additional section, the
sequential tables of all individual entries (some 4000) of them from the
whole site, with a separate set of achievements (smaller gifs), is
definitely now offline, but I was able to grab those pages & gifs too,
from the wayback machine (tedious because no bots allowed).

I hope that the tabulated early armorials are resurrected in some way.
At present Mr. Timms' version consists of many, many laboriously
hand-made pages with tables. But having these thousands of armorial
entries in a simple web-server database for PHP query access on a one-
or two-page site would be reasonably simple and increase functionality
(although google wouldn't find individual matches).

As a prosopography, it would be great to be able to input the name of a
title or surname and see all the relevant entries, keyed to the various
early rolls. As an ordinary of arms, it would function very well too,
since one could search/select for strings appearing in the blazon fields
(Old French or modernized), hence pulling up all matches for specific
ordinaries or embellishments. Mr. Timms' handmade ordinary on this site
has not progressed past 'bends'.

Does anyone know (perhaps our friends over at rec.heraldry) whether
anyone has taken steps so that this material may reappear anywhere?
Perhaps, though, there are also copyright issues involved (e.g. with
Boydell & Brewer for Gerard Brault's edition of the rolls temp. Edward
I, from which a fair chunk of this was drawn).

Nat Taylor

a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/

my children's 17th-century American immigrant ancestors:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltay ... rantsa.htm

steven perkins

Re: Brian Timms' Site (Rolls of Arms)

Legg inn av steven perkins » 19 mai 2006 22:44:01

The preservation of this site seems like a worthy project for the
Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, http://fmg.ac/

Regards,

Steven C. Perkins



On 5/19/06, Nathaniel Taylor <nathanieltaylor@earthlink.net> wrote:
In article <e4l4su$51o$1@emma.aioe.org>,
"Chris Phillips" <cgp@medievalgenealogy.org.uk> wrote:

Renia wrote
How did you manage that? I can't navigate it. Comes up as file:///e etc

There seems to be a problem with the links on the main page, but if you copy
the part of each link URL after "netwebsite2/" into your address bar after
http://www.briantimms.com/ you should still be able to see the rest of the site.

Yes, I noticed these link errors, and site-sucked the whole thing some
days ago after seeing the closure notice on his main page (I patched the
links on my own copy for home use). One additional section, the
sequential tables of all individual entries (some 4000) of them from the
whole site, with a separate set of achievements (smaller gifs), is
definitely now offline, but I was able to grab those pages & gifs too,
from the wayback machine (tedious because no bots allowed).

I hope that the tabulated early armorials are resurrected in some way.
At present Mr. Timms' version consists of many, many laboriously
hand-made pages with tables. But having these thousands of armorial
entries in a simple web-server database for PHP query access on a one-
or two-page site would be reasonably simple and increase functionality
(although google wouldn't find individual matches).

As a prosopography, it would be great to be able to input the name of a
title or surname and see all the relevant entries, keyed to the various
early rolls. As an ordinary of arms, it would function very well too,
since one could search/select for strings appearing in the blazon fields
(Old French or modernized), hence pulling up all matches for specific
ordinaries or embellishments. Mr. Timms' handmade ordinary on this site
has not progressed past 'bends'.

Does anyone know (perhaps our friends over at rec.heraldry) whether
anyone has taken steps so that this material may reappear anywhere?
Perhaps, though, there are also copyright issues involved (e.g. with
Boydell & Brewer for Gerard Brault's edition of the rolls temp. Edward
I, from which a fair chunk of this was drawn).

Nat Taylor

a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/

my children's 17th-century American immigrant ancestors:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltay ... rantsa.htm




--
Steven C. Perkins SCPerkins@gmail.com
http://stevencperkins.com/
http://intelligent-internet.info/
http://jgg-online.blogspot.com/
http://stevencperkins.com/genealogy.html

Renia

Re: Brian Timms' Site (Rolls of Arms)

Legg inn av Renia » 20 mai 2006 01:47:16

Doug Thompson wrote:


On 19/5/06 19:26, in article e4l2l0$913$1@mouse.otenet.gr, "Renia"
renia@DELETEotenet.gr> wrote:


Doug Thompson wrote:


I just looked at Brian's excellent site (http://www.briantimms.com/) and
noticed Brian was about to close it down. I'm sure many other readers of
this newsgroup also look at the site.

Brian suggests you copy anything you want before it goes at the end of May!

I've copied all of it.

How did you manage that? I can't navigate it. Comes up as file:///e etc


I used a webgrabber to take the whole site, but if you start at

http://www.briantimms.com/era/early%20r ... 20arms.htm

You can navigate all the rolls of arms from there.

Doug

Thanks

Doug McDonald

Re: Brian Timms' Site (Rolls of Arms)

Legg inn av Doug McDonald » 20 mai 2006 14:08:51

Doug Thompson wrote:



How did you manage that? I can't navigate it. Comes up as file:///e etc


I used a webgrabber to take the whole site, but if you start at

http://www.briantimms.com/era/early%20r ... 20arms.htm

You can navigate all the rolls of arms from there.



Can a person who has indeed copied the whole thing,
including the older parts, make this available to use,
perhaps as a .zip file?

Doug McDonald

Tim Powys-Lybbe

Re: Brian Timms' Site (Rolls of Arms)

Legg inn av Tim Powys-Lybbe » 20 mai 2006 22:05:02

In message of 20 May, Doug McDonald <mcdonald@SnPoAM_scs.uiuc.edu>
wrote:

Doug Thompson wrote:



How did you manage that? I can't navigate it. Comes up as
file:///e etc


I used a webgrabber to take the whole site, but if you start at

http://www.briantimms.com/era/early%20r ... 20arms.htm

You can navigate all the rolls of arms from there.



Can a person who has indeed copied the whole thing,
including the older parts, make this available to use,
perhaps as a .zip file?

I've tried to e-mail on this but the e-address is munged...

Has anyone sent you the file yet?

--
Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          tim@powys.org
             For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org

Doug McDonald

Re: Brian Timms' Site (Rolls of Arms)

Legg inn av Doug McDonald » 21 mai 2006 13:59:27

Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote:
In message of 20 May, Doug McDonald <mcdonald@SnPoAM_scs.uiuc.edu
wrote:

Doug Thompson wrote:

How did you manage that? I can't navigate it. Comes up as
file:///e etc

I used a webgrabber to take the whole site, but if you start at

http://www.briantimms.com/era/early%20r ... 20arms.htm

You can navigate all the rolls of arms from there.

Can a person who has indeed copied the whole thing,
including the older parts, make this available to use,
perhaps as a .zip file?

I've tried to e-mail on this but the e-address is munged...

Has anyone sent you the file yet?


It's not hard to un-mung my address: just remove the obvious
letters and the underscore.

Question answer is "no"

Doug

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