On Leo's great web site we see
1) Sir Giles Wroughton m Catherine Paulet
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 6&tree=LEO
2) Dorothy Wroughton m George Shirley
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 1&tree=LEO
3) Sir George Wroughton m Ann Gibbs
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 2&tree=LEO
4) Gertrude Wroughton m Ralph Gibbes
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 9&tree=LEO
Now I present evidence that these four Wroughtons were all siblings
Only the first few pages are copied below, as I got tired. If someone wants
to continue, be my guest.
Will Johnson
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http://books.google.com/books?vid=LCCN0 ... 31&printse
c=8&dq=%22Giles+Wroughton%22
"The Unton Inventories : Relating to Wadley and Faringdon, Co. Berks. in the
Years 1596 and 1620, From the Originals in the Possession of Earl Ferrers :
With a Memoir of the Family of Unton", John Gough Nichols, Esq, F.S.A.; Printed
for the Berkshire Ashmolean Society. John Bowyer Nichols and Son, London. 1841
page 31 "The Will of Dorothy Lady Shirley. 1634"
Extracted from the Registry of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury
Emanuell
"The eighteenth day of July, in the Yeare of Our Lord God, according to
the computation of the Church of England, one thousand six hundred thirty and
fower, and in the tenth yeare of the raigne of our Soveraigne Lord Charles, by
the Grace of God of England, Scotland, France, and Ireland King, Defender of
the fayth, I Dorothye Lady Sherley, widdowe, considering and beleeving that all
the sonns of men have but their tymes of pilgrimage upon earth, and must at
the the last end this transitory life at the howre appointed by their Creator,
findeing myself in perfect memory, for which I give God most harty thankes, doe
hereby declare my last Will and Testament in manner and form followeing:
"First, I doe acknowledge myself a most heynous sinner, for which, both in
general and particular, I unfeynedly repent from the bottome of my hart,
beseeching and begging pardon at the hands of Almighty God for the same, thorough
the merits of Christ Jesus, the only Saviour of mankinde, unto whose
unspeakeable mercies in all humility I prostrate myself; and, as concerning my body, my
desire is that the same may be interred and layed in the Isle of the Church
of Farrington, in which Isle my husband Sir Henry Unton, knight, lyeth buried,
according to the discretion of my Executors; and my desire is, that my funeral
may be performed without any pompe or solempnity, and with as small charge as
may be, in the night.
page 32
"Item I give and bequeath unto the poore of Farrington the some of thirty
pounds, over and above the thirty pounds I owe to them, and to the poore of
Wappenham the some of tenn poundes; the same severall somes to be payed to the
severall Overseers of the poore of the said severall Townes to the use of the
said poore within six moneths after my decease, and my desire is, that the same
should remain and be employed to the use of the said poore of the said
severall Parrishes, and remaine for stocks for them for ever.
"Item I give and bequeath unto my honorable frende Sir Thomas Edmonds,
knight, Treasurer of his Ma'ts household, my nagget cupp.
"Item I give and bequeath unto my loving brother Sir Giles Wroughton,
knight, the some of tenn poundes, to be payed to him within six months after my
decease, and to my nephue Thomas Wroughton, my godsonne, the some of thirty
pounds, to be payed within six moneths after my decease, and unto my nephue Henry
Wroughton the some of twenty pounds, to be likewise payed within six moneths
after my decease.
"Item I give and bequeath unto my brother Sir George Wroughton the some of
tenn pounds, to be likewise payed within six months after my decease to buy
him a ring.
"Item I give and bequeath to my welbeloved neece the Lady Anne Gibbes[1]
two silver flatt sallett dishes, and six silver plates, which sallett dishes
and plates shee gave mee.
"Item I give and bequeath to my wellbeloved neece the Lady Unton
Deering[2] fyve peeces of Orrisse hangings, which are wrought..." [continued to next
page]
[1] Gertrude Wroughton, sister to Dame Dorothy Shirley was married to Sir
Ralph Gibbes of Honington, co Warwick; and Anne, daughter of Robert Gibbes, and
sister to Sir Ralph, was the first wife of Sir George Wroughton. Hence the
frequent occurrence of the name in this document. The Lady Anne Gibbes was
probably the wife of Sir Henry Gibbes, son of Sir Ralph.
[2] Unton, daughter of Sir Ralph Gibbes, was the third wife of Sir Edward
Dering, the first Baronet, of Surenden Dering, co Kent, and well known both as a
political character and an antiquary. She had issue two sons and two
daughters and her son Henry gave the name of Unton to one of his sons, "Unton, who
married the daughter of Mr Aris." Wotton's Baronetage, 1741, vol ii, p 20.
page 33
[continued from previous page] "... with the story of Sampson, and three
of my best silver candlesticks.
"Item I give and bequeath to my loveing neece Mrs Jane Hawley the some of
one hundred pounds, to be payed within six moneths after my decease, and my
coach and coach horses and coach-horse beasts, and my silver livery bason and
ewer, which are usually sett upon my cupboard in my chamber, my black cabbonet,
or one of my other cabbonets, at her choyce and election.
"Item I give and bequeath to my beloved neece Mrs Mary Rawley[1] my best
chamlet gowne, my least silver bason and ewer, and the least pair of my silver
flaggons.
"Item I give and bequeath to my loving neece Gertrude Gibbes the some of
one hundred pounds, and the bedding and furniture of the chamber I use to lye
in at Farrington; I do also give and bequeath to her two of my best
petticoates, and my sheete wrought with black, and two pillow-beeres wrought with black,
and two suites of table cloths and napkins, the one suite of damaske, the
other of diaper; one of my cabbonetts, and little boxe inlaid with
mother-of-pearle; forty ounces of my cupboard plate, usually used and set in my chamber.
"Item I give and bequeath to my goddaughter Elizabeth Gibbes, forty
pounds, to be putt in use for her benefit by my Overseers, until shee shall attaine
to the age of eighteene yeares, and then the same, with the encrease and
benefitt thereof, to be by them payed to my sayd goddaughter.
"Item I give and bequeath to my cosen Frances Gibbes tenn poundes, to be
payed to her use within six moneths after my decease, to buy her a jewell.
"Item I give and bequeath to my goddaughter Dorothy Hawley..." [continued
to next page]
[1] Mary Gibbes, wife of Walter Raleigh, Dean of Wells, the nephew of the
great Sir Walter. The Dean's father, Sir Carew, and his brother Gilbert, both
married a Wroughton. See the Ralegh pedigree in Matcham's Hundred of Downton,
(Hoare's Wilts,) p 37
Sir Giles Wroughton's family
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John Brandon
Re: Sir Giles Wroughton's family
WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
Mr. Robert1 Gibbes of New England was a descendant of these people in
some fashion ...
On Leo's great web site we see
1) Sir Giles Wroughton m Catherine Paulet
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 6&tree=LEO
2) Dorothy Wroughton m George Shirley
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 1&tree=LEO
3) Sir George Wroughton m Ann Gibbs
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 2&tree=LEO
4) Gertrude Wroughton m Ralph Gibbes
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 9&tree=LEO
Mr. Robert1 Gibbes of New England was a descendant of these people in
some fashion ...
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John Higgins
Re: Sir Giles Wroughton's family
The book referenced below, "The Unton Inventories", is also online in the
collections of BYU, accessible directly from the FHL catalog via a clickable
link. The book contains quite a lengthy genealogy of the Unton family which
may be of interest.
The sibling relationships of Dorothy Wroughton Unton Shirley, and some of
the other relationships mentioned in the will and the footnotes below, can
also be seen in a Wroughton pedigree in "Wiltshire Visitation Pedigrees,
1623" published as vol. 105-6 of the Harleian Society series - although it's
not entirely clear how accurate this pedigree is.
One correction to the footnotes below: The "Lady Anne Gibbes", niece of
Dorothy Wroughton, was not the wife of Sir Henry Gibbes (Dorothy's nephew)
as suggested in the note, but was instead Sir Henry's sister (daughter of
Gertrude Wroughton). She was married (as his 2nd wife) to Sir Henry Gibb
[not Gibbes], originally of Carribber, Scotland, for whom see the Complete
Baronetage, 2:403-4.
The siblings Sir George and Gertrude Wroughton who married the siblings Anne
Gibbes and Sir Raph Gibbes are both ancestors, via the Montagu and Gore
families, of Prince William. Sir George held the manor of Wilcot in
Wiltshire, which his father Sir Thomas had acquired by marriage. The
descent of this manor through the Wroughtons to the Montagus is traced
briefly in VCH Wiltshire 11:194. Sir George (d. 1649) was succeeded by his
elder son Francis (d. 1695) and then by Francis' brother George (d. 1696).
The younger George was succeeded by his son George (d. 1702) and grandson
Francis (d. 1722). The latter Francis' brother James (d. 1745) then held
the manor and had (at least) two children: a daughter Sophia who mar. Adm.
John Montagu and a son George whose daughter Charlotte mar. Adm. George
Montagu (son of the couple above). [As a side note, the manor of Wilmot was
owned in the twentieth century by the actor David Niven]
The VCH account unfortunately only mentions the male Wroughtons from Sir
George to the Montagu marriages, without indicating their wives. If anyone
can add these details (admittedly off-topic), it would be greatly
appreciated.
----- Original Message -----
From: <WJhonson@aol.com>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 3:51 PM
Subject: Sir Giles Wroughton's family
se
[snip of text of will]
[further snip of text of will]
collections of BYU, accessible directly from the FHL catalog via a clickable
link. The book contains quite a lengthy genealogy of the Unton family which
may be of interest.
The sibling relationships of Dorothy Wroughton Unton Shirley, and some of
the other relationships mentioned in the will and the footnotes below, can
also be seen in a Wroughton pedigree in "Wiltshire Visitation Pedigrees,
1623" published as vol. 105-6 of the Harleian Society series - although it's
not entirely clear how accurate this pedigree is.
One correction to the footnotes below: The "Lady Anne Gibbes", niece of
Dorothy Wroughton, was not the wife of Sir Henry Gibbes (Dorothy's nephew)
as suggested in the note, but was instead Sir Henry's sister (daughter of
Gertrude Wroughton). She was married (as his 2nd wife) to Sir Henry Gibb
[not Gibbes], originally of Carribber, Scotland, for whom see the Complete
Baronetage, 2:403-4.
The siblings Sir George and Gertrude Wroughton who married the siblings Anne
Gibbes and Sir Raph Gibbes are both ancestors, via the Montagu and Gore
families, of Prince William. Sir George held the manor of Wilcot in
Wiltshire, which his father Sir Thomas had acquired by marriage. The
descent of this manor through the Wroughtons to the Montagus is traced
briefly in VCH Wiltshire 11:194. Sir George (d. 1649) was succeeded by his
elder son Francis (d. 1695) and then by Francis' brother George (d. 1696).
The younger George was succeeded by his son George (d. 1702) and grandson
Francis (d. 1722). The latter Francis' brother James (d. 1745) then held
the manor and had (at least) two children: a daughter Sophia who mar. Adm.
John Montagu and a son George whose daughter Charlotte mar. Adm. George
Montagu (son of the couple above). [As a side note, the manor of Wilmot was
owned in the twentieth century by the actor David Niven]
The VCH account unfortunately only mentions the male Wroughtons from Sir
George to the Montagu marriages, without indicating their wives. If anyone
can add these details (admittedly off-topic), it would be greatly
appreciated.
----- Original Message -----
From: <WJhonson@aol.com>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 3:51 PM
Subject: Sir Giles Wroughton's family
On Leo's great web site we see
1) Sir Giles Wroughton m Catherine Paulet
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 6&tree=LEO
2) Dorothy Wroughton m George Shirley
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 1&tree=LEO
3) Sir George Wroughton m Ann Gibbs
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 2&tree=LEO
4) Gertrude Wroughton m Ralph Gibbes
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 9&tree=LEO
Now I present evidence that these four Wroughtons were all siblings
Only the first few pages are copied below, as I got tired. If someone
wants
to continue, be my guest.
Will Johnson
-----------------------------------------------------------------
http://books.google.com/books?vid=LCCN0 ... PA31&print
se
c=8&dq=%22Giles+Wroughton%22
"The Unton Inventories : Relating to Wadley and Faringdon, Co. Berks. in
the
Years 1596 and 1620, From the Originals in the Possession of Earl Ferrers
:
With a Memoir of the Family of Unton", John Gough Nichols, Esq, F.S.A.;
Printed
for the Berkshire Ashmolean Society. John Bowyer Nichols and Son, London.
1841
page 31 "The Will of Dorothy Lady Shirley. 1634"
Extracted from the Registry of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury
Emanuell
[snip of text of will]
[1] Gertrude Wroughton, sister to Dame Dorothy Shirley was married to Sir
Ralph Gibbes of Honington, co Warwick; and Anne, daughter of Robert
Gibbes, and
sister to Sir Ralph, was the first wife of Sir George Wroughton. Hence
the
frequent occurrence of the name in this document. The Lady Anne Gibbes
was
probably the wife of Sir Henry Gibbes, son of Sir Ralph.
[2] Unton, daughter of Sir Ralph Gibbes, was the third wife of Sir Edward
Dering, the first Baronet, of Surenden Dering, co Kent, and well known
both as a
political character and an antiquary. She had issue two sons and two
daughters and her son Henry gave the name of Unton to one of his sons,
"Unton, who
married the daughter of Mr Aris." Wotton's Baronetage, 1741, vol ii, p 20.
[further snip of text of will]
[1] Mary Gibbes, wife of Walter Raleigh, Dean of Wells, the nephew of the
great Sir Walter. The Dean's father, Sir Carew, and his brother Gilbert,
both
married a Wroughton. See the Ralegh pedigree in Matcham's Hundred of
Downton,
(Hoare's Wilts,) p 37