The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
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Barrie Wright
The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
So James Tabor's well-timed quest for riches is listed among the
'Best Non-fiction'.
Give us a break. Albert Schweitzer's diligent PhD effort
foundered on lack of credible evidence about 100 years ago.
Talk about 'dedicated to him!'.
Dedicated to his own publicity machine.
Jewish Apocalypticism is a NT factor, yes, but explaining the
whole of Jesus's career, family, relatives, no.
'Best Non-fiction'.
Give us a break. Albert Schweitzer's diligent PhD effort
foundered on lack of credible evidence about 100 years ago.
Talk about 'dedicated to him!'.
Dedicated to his own publicity machine.
Jewish Apocalypticism is a NT factor, yes, but explaining the
whole of Jesus's career, family, relatives, no.
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RAY Montgomery
RE: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
Barrie, and all,
there is much more to this than is written in the Jesus Dynasty.
I have personally read from extractrs of what came out of the vatican
archives much of the same thing, it was micro filmed and put in a volumn
that I have not been able to find since. It was called the drama of the lost
deciples and was printed in england. All of the stuff that was stated is
true except for the part about Jesus Christ faking his death. Yes he is the
messiah, and that can be proved by the one simple volumn called he walked
the america's which is a compilation of all the ancinet legends of all the
indians of north and south america and also of all the peoples of all the
island so polynisia, ie the cook islands, the hawiian islands, the islands
of tonga, samoma and all the others. This work was written by a
archeologist, and anthopoygist from the university of wisconson.
Jesus Christ is the messiah! Yes the bible does not tell the whole story,
but it is completed by the legends of all the indians. So barrie, by the
voice of two of three witnesses you have the true story.
Some thing that the bible does not give as it is one witness.
Ray
there is much more to this than is written in the Jesus Dynasty.
I have personally read from extractrs of what came out of the vatican
archives much of the same thing, it was micro filmed and put in a volumn
that I have not been able to find since. It was called the drama of the lost
deciples and was printed in england. All of the stuff that was stated is
true except for the part about Jesus Christ faking his death. Yes he is the
messiah, and that can be proved by the one simple volumn called he walked
the america's which is a compilation of all the ancinet legends of all the
indians of north and south america and also of all the peoples of all the
island so polynisia, ie the cook islands, the hawiian islands, the islands
of tonga, samoma and all the others. This work was written by a
archeologist, and anthopoygist from the university of wisconson.
Jesus Christ is the messiah! Yes the bible does not tell the whole story,
but it is completed by the legends of all the indians. So barrie, by the
voice of two of three witnesses you have the true story.
Some thing that the bible does not give as it is one witness.
Ray
From: "Barrie Wright" <bjmw@optusnet.com.au
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:00:44 +0930
So James Tabor's well-timed quest for riches is listed among the
'Best Non-fiction'.
Give us a break. Albert Schweitzer's diligent PhD effort
foundered on lack of credible evidence about 100 years ago.
Talk about 'dedicated to him!'.
Dedicated to his own publicity machine.
Jewish Apocalypticism is a NT factor, yes, but explaining the
whole of Jesus's career, family, relatives, no.
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norenxaq
Re: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
Yes he is the messiah, and that can be proved by the one simple volumn
called he walked the america's which is a compilation of all the
ancinet legends of all the indians of north and south america and also
of all the peoples of all the island so polynisia, ie the cook
islands, the hawiian islands, the islands of tonga, samoma and all the
others. This work was written by a archeologist, and anthopoygist from
the university of wisconson.
Jesus Christ is the messiah! Yes the bible does not tell the whole
story, but it is completed by the legends of all the indians. So
barrie, by the voice of two of three witnesses you have the true story.
Some thing that the bible does not give as it is one witness.
Ray
the above is probably based on the Book of Mormon which has no historic
validity outside of those that follow it
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RAY Montgomery
Re: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
To whom it may concern as you do not state your name.
I clearly stated that the source of the data was from a book called "he
walked the america's.
I clearly stated that the person that wrote that book was an archeaologist
and anthopoligist from the univercity of wisconson. I clearly stated that
the book is a compliation of the anceint legends of the indian tribes of
north and south america and the islands of the pacific ocean. These legends
are very clear that they are dealing with jesus Christ as he stated that he
is such. I am sure you have heard of the legends of the indians of south
america that heralded cortez as the great white God that visited there and
promised to return. The same thing happened on the cook islands.
it is clear and documented fact. If this corresponds with another record so
be it. All I was stating was that they are a second witness that jesus
Christ is the Messiah.
Ray
I clearly stated that the source of the data was from a book called "he
walked the america's.
I clearly stated that the person that wrote that book was an archeaologist
and anthopoligist from the univercity of wisconson. I clearly stated that
the book is a compliation of the anceint legends of the indian tribes of
north and south america and the islands of the pacific ocean. These legends
are very clear that they are dealing with jesus Christ as he stated that he
is such. I am sure you have heard of the legends of the indians of south
america that heralded cortez as the great white God that visited there and
promised to return. The same thing happened on the cook islands.
it is clear and documented fact. If this corresponds with another record so
be it. All I was stating was that they are a second witness that jesus
Christ is the Messiah.
Ray
From: norenxaq <norenxaq@san.rr.com
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:11:38 -0700
Yes he is the messiah, and that can be proved by the one simple volumn
called he walked the america's which is a compilation of all the ancinet
legends of all the indians of north and south america and also of all the
peoples of all the island so polynisia, ie the cook islands, the hawiian
islands, the islands of tonga, samoma and all the others. This work was
written by a archeologist, and anthopoygist from the university of
wisconson.
Jesus Christ is the messiah! Yes the bible does not tell the whole story,
but it is completed by the legends of all the indians. So barrie, by the
voice of two of three witnesses you have the true story.
Some thing that the bible does not give as it is one witness.
Ray
the above is probably based on the Book of Mormon which has no historic
validity outside of those that follow it
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Gjest
Re: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
RAY Montgomery writes:
"It is true because I say so"
That type of argument didn't convince me when used by T Blair and it still
doesn't
cheers
Simon
These
legends are very clear that they are dealing with jesus Christ as he
stated that he is such.
"It is true because I say so"
That type of argument didn't convince me when used by T Blair and it still
doesn't
cheers
Simon
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Ford Mommaerts-Browne
Re: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
| >From: norenxaq <norenxaq@san.rr.com>
| >To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
| >Subject: Re: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
| >Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:11:38 -0700
| >
| >
| >>Yes he is the messiah, and that can be proved by the one simple volumn
| >>called he walked the america's which is a compilation of all the ancinet
| >>legends of all the indians of north and south america and also of all the
| >>peoples of all the island so polynisia, ie the cook islands, the hawiian
| >>islands, the islands of tonga, samoma and all the others. This work was
| >>written by a archeologist, and anthopoygist from the university of
| >>wisconson.
| >>Jesus Christ is the messiah! Yes the bible does not tell the whole story,
| >>but it is completed by the legends of all the indians. So barrie, by the
| >>voice of two of three witnesses you have the true story.
| >>Some thing that the bible does not give as it is one witness.
| >>Ray
| >>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >the above is probably based on the Book of Mormon which has no historic
| >validity outside of those that follow it.
What does this purported Messiah have to do with Medieval genealogy?
With all due respect,
Yonatan Micah Hillel ben Avraham
| >To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
| >Subject: Re: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
| >Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:11:38 -0700
| >
| >
| >>Yes he is the messiah, and that can be proved by the one simple volumn
| >>called he walked the america's which is a compilation of all the ancinet
| >>legends of all the indians of north and south america and also of all the
| >>peoples of all the island so polynisia, ie the cook islands, the hawiian
| >>islands, the islands of tonga, samoma and all the others. This work was
| >>written by a archeologist, and anthopoygist from the university of
| >>wisconson.
| >>Jesus Christ is the messiah! Yes the bible does not tell the whole story,
| >>but it is completed by the legends of all the indians. So barrie, by the
| >>voice of two of three witnesses you have the true story.
| >>Some thing that the bible does not give as it is one witness.
| >>Ray
| >>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >the above is probably based on the Book of Mormon which has no historic
| >validity outside of those that follow it.
What does this purported Messiah have to do with Medieval genealogy?
With all due respect,
Yonatan Micah Hillel ben Avraham
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RAY Montgomery
Re: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
Dear ford,
I most humbly appoligize as it has very little to do with it on face value.
It was simply a responce to a statement.
Again, I appoligize!
Sincerely,
Ray
I most humbly appoligize as it has very little to do with it on face value.
It was simply a responce to a statement.
Again, I appoligize!
Sincerely,
Ray
From: "Ford Mommaerts-Browne" <FordMommaerts@Cox.net
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 00:43:28 -0300
| >From: norenxaq <norenxaq@san.rr.com
| >To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
| >Subject: Re: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
| >Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:11:38 -0700
|
|
| >>Yes he is the messiah, and that can be proved by the one simple volumn
| >>called he walked the america's which is a compilation of all the
ancinet
| >>legends of all the indians of north and south america and also of all
the
| >>peoples of all the island so polynisia, ie the cook islands, the
hawiian
| >>islands, the islands of tonga, samoma and all the others. This work was
| >>written by a archeologist, and anthopoygist from the university of
| >>wisconson.
| >>Jesus Christ is the messiah! Yes the bible does not tell the whole
story,
| >>but it is completed by the legends of all the indians. So barrie, by
the
| >>voice of two of three witnesses you have the true story.
| >>Some thing that the bible does not give as it is one witness.
| >>Ray
|
|
|
|
| >the above is probably based on the Book of Mormon which has no historic
| >validity outside of those that follow it.
What does this purported Messiah have to do with Medieval genealogy?
With all due respect,
Yonatan Micah Hillel ben Avraham
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Ford Mommaerts-Browne
Re: The Irreverant, Off-Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
Dear Ray,
I can accept your apology, if you can accept that some of us have no interest in such Messianic mishagas. There is a reason why I signed that post with my Hebrew name. Christians, Whites, Middle- and Upper-class, heterosexuals and men need to stop assuming that everyone holds and accepts their world-view. The Gospels are only gospel IF one accepts them as such, and all of the argumentation that can be brought to muster is not going to change their benighted indifference or antipathy.
Again, with all due respect,
and in the spirit of brotherhood,
Shalom
Yonatan Micah Hillel ben Avraham
----- Original Message -----
From: "RAY Montgomery" <montereng1@hotmail.com>
To: <FordMommaerts@Cox.net>; <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
| Dear ford,
| I most humbly appoligize as it has very little to do with it on face value.
| It was simply a responce to a statement.
| Again, I appoligize!
| Sincerely,
| Ray
I can accept your apology, if you can accept that some of us have no interest in such Messianic mishagas. There is a reason why I signed that post with my Hebrew name. Christians, Whites, Middle- and Upper-class, heterosexuals and men need to stop assuming that everyone holds and accepts their world-view. The Gospels are only gospel IF one accepts them as such, and all of the argumentation that can be brought to muster is not going to change their benighted indifference or antipathy.
Again, with all due respect,
and in the spirit of brotherhood,
Shalom
Yonatan Micah Hillel ben Avraham
----- Original Message -----
From: "RAY Montgomery" <montereng1@hotmail.com>
To: <FordMommaerts@Cox.net>; <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
| Dear ford,
| I most humbly appoligize as it has very little to do with it on face value.
| It was simply a responce to a statement.
| Again, I appoligize!
| Sincerely,
| Ray
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RAY Montgomery
Re: The Irreverant, Off-Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
Shalom Ford,
As I am also jewish by blood!
Ray
As I am also jewish by blood!
Ray
From: "Ford Mommaerts-Browne" <FordMommaerts@Cox.net
To: "RAY Montgomery" <montereng1@hotmail.com>,<GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: The Irreverant, Off-Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 02:49:22 -0300
Dear Ray,
I can accept your apology, if you can accept that some of us have no
interest in such Messianic mishagas. There is a reason why I signed that
post with my Hebrew name. Christians, Whites, Middle- and Upper-class,
heterosexuals and men need to stop assuming that everyone holds and accepts
their world-view. The Gospels are only gospel IF one accepts them as such,
and all of the argumentation that can be brought to muster is not going to
change their benighted indifference or antipathy.
Again, with all due respect,
and in the spirit of brotherhood,
Shalom
Yonatan Micah Hillel ben Avraham
----- Original Message -----
From: "RAY Montgomery" <montereng1@hotmail.com
To: <FordMommaerts@Cox.net>; <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
| Dear ford,
| I most humbly appoligize as it has very little to do with it on face
value.
| It was simply a responce to a statement.
| Again, I appoligize!
| Sincerely,
| Ray
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Bette Noir
Re: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty'
On root@archiver.rootsweb.com, , Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:26:15 +0000
(UTC), Re: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty',
montereng1@hotmail.com ("RAY Montgomery") wrote:
Ah, a cheesehead, that figures...
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H.L. Mencken wrote, "What reasonable man has not had
the urge to roll up his sleeves, raise the black flag
and start slitting throats?"
(UTC), Re: The Irrelevant Off Topic 'Jesus Dynasty',
montereng1@hotmail.com ("RAY Montgomery") wrote:
To whom it may concern as you do not state your name.
I clearly stated that the source of the data was from a book called "he
walked the america's.
I clearly stated that the person that wrote that book was an archeaologist
and anthopoligist from the univercity of wisconson.
Ah, a cheesehead, that figures...
---
H.L. Mencken wrote, "What reasonable man has not had
the urge to roll up his sleeves, raise the black flag
and start slitting throats?"