Diana Skipwith and the spurious deed

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Diana Skipwith and the spurious deed

Legg inn av Gjest » 05 apr 2006 05:14:47

Dear Everyone,

Earlier today I posted about the following deed from memory and confused
portions of it with other deeds pertaining to this discussion. This is the
summary of this deed from Virginia County Court Records, Deed & Will Abstracts of
Lancaster County, Virginia 1654-1661,edited by Ruth and Sam Sparacio,
Antient Press, 1991, page 96:

Part I:
Henry Rye of Lancaster County, Planter sells to Ebby Bonnison 560 acres in
Lancaster County on the south side Hadaways Creek. Dated Nov. 30, 1658.
Witnesses: Hugh Brent and Love Johnson. Recorded Jan. 26, 1658/9 by Edward Dale.

Part II:
Ebby Bonnison makes Hugh Brent his attorney to assign and acknowledge the
sale of 350 acres of this patent to Ever Peterson. Dated Jan. 25, 1658/9.
Witnesses Henry Rye and Domingno Cras. Recorded Jan. 26, 1658/9 by Edward Dale

Part III:
Walter Bries[Brice] and Ever Peterson sell [? no description or amount of
land given] to Ebby Bonnison . They also authorize Col. John Carter to
acknowledge this in court. Dated 17 November 1655. Witnesses: Thomas Carter and Diana
Skipwith. Recorded Jan. 26, 1658/9 by Edward Dale.

Part IV:
Ebby Bonnison assigns over his right in this [the above Part III] bill of
Sale to Ever Peterson. Jan. 25, 1658/9. Witnesses Henry Rye and Domingno Cras.
Recorded Jan. 26, 1658/9 by Edward Dale.

The problem with the above is that Part III was supposedly written in 1655
but not recorded until Jan. 26. 1659. On Jan. 26. 1659 in Lancaster County
Court Thomas Carter brother of Col. John Carter was first referred to as deceased
and Diana Skipwith was the wife of the clerk of the court who recorded this
deed throwing question on this section of the transaction. Walter Brice was
also deceased by this time. This is one of the few transactions recorded
after the fact in Lancaster County, Virginia in this period. It also seems
highly unlikely that Col. John Carter would not have acknowledged this deed as he
was requested to do by Walter Brice and Ever Peterson. Something is amiss
in this portion of the document.

The other portions of this deed make little sense also as the land seems to
be transferred back and forth between Ebby Bonnison and Ever Peterson.

Walter Bries [Brice] held land in Lancaster County and was first mentioned
in deeds in 1652/3. He may be the brother of Col. Thomas Bries who died in 1656
leaving Edward Dale to oversee his estate and his wife Martha Bries as his
executrix. Martha Bries remarried Rev. William White and Col. John Carter
became guardian for their children. It was land on Bries Creek that ended up
in the possession of Mary Dale which is shown in various court orders in
1679-80.

It was Beverly Fleet who first noted that the deed read Walter Brice not
Bruce and he also was the first to observe that this deed transferred land back
and forth between the same individuals and that Part III was recorded long
after it was written.

The other deeds witnessed by Diana Skipwith are mortgages from Thomas Carter
to his brother Col. John Carter. One of these is also witnessed by Abby
Bonnison. Col. John Carter was his brother's heir.

As Joan Burdyck pointed out the original documents are long since destroyed
and all we have is what was recorded by the Clerk of the Court at that time
which was Edward Dale for two of these deeds and Vincent Stanford for the
other.

Best Regards,
MichaelAnne

Nathaniel Taylor

Re: Diana Skipwith and the spurious deed

Legg inn av Nathaniel Taylor » 05 apr 2006 05:14:48

In article <35d.1671775.3164820a@aol.com>, ClaudiusI0@aol.com wrote:

... The other deeds witnessed by Diana Skipwith are mortgages from
Thomas Carter to his brother Col. John Carter. One of these is also
witnessed by Abby Bonnison. Col. John Carter was his brother's heir.

Michael Anne, thank you. This is very interesting. I would have said
that it is not necessarily grounds for suspicion of some instrument is
not recorded until years after it was written. If this is true of the
Novemer 1655 deed, is it also true of the other 1655 document mentioned
in Ward's article, which Diana also signed with her maiden name?

Nat Taylor

a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/

my children's 17th-century American immigrant ancestors:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltay ... rantsa.htm

Vickie Elam White

Re: Diana Skipwith and the spurious deed

Legg inn av Vickie Elam White » 08 apr 2006 02:32:01

MichaelAnne,

Thanks so much for posting these. I do have a question.

"Part III. Walter Bries [Brice] and Ever Peterson sell land [no
description given] to Ebby Bonnison . They also authorize Col.
John Carter to acknowledge this in court. Dated 17 November
1655. Witnesses: Thomas Carter and Diana Skipwith. Recorded
Jan. 26, 1658/9 by Edward Dale.

Are we absolutely sure that the date is 1655 and not 1658? I have
been fooled many a time and misread a 5 for an 8 and vice versa.
3s also get mixed up with those other two numbers, too. Since we
don't have the originals, I guess there probably isn't a way to be sure.
Maybe some other external evidence of this sale, maybe dower rights
being waived?

Vickie Elam White

<ClaudiusI0@aol.com> wrote in message news:35d.1671775.3164820a@aol.com...
Dear Everyone,

Earlier today I posted about the following deed from memory and confused
portions of it with other deeds pertaining to this discussion. This is
the
summary of this deed from Virginia County Court Records, Deed & Will
Abstracts of
Lancaster County, Virginia 1654-1661,edited by Ruth and Sam Sparacio,
Antient Press, 1991, page 96:

Part I:
Henry Rye of Lancaster County, Planter sells to Ebby Bonnison 560 acres in
Lancaster County on the south side Hadaways Creek. Dated Nov. 30, 1658.
Witnesses: Hugh Brent and Love Johnson. Recorded Jan. 26, 1658/9 by Edward
Dale.

Part II:
Ebby Bonnison makes Hugh Brent his attorney to assign and acknowledge the
sale of 350 acres of this patent to Ever Peterson. Dated Jan. 25, 1658/9.
Witnesses Henry Rye and Domingno Cras. Recorded Jan. 26, 1658/9 by Edward
Dale

Part III:
Walter Bries[Brice] and Ever Peterson sell [? no description or amount of
land given] to Ebby Bonnison . They also authorize Col. John Carter to
acknowledge this in court. Dated 17 November 1655. Witnesses: Thomas
Carter and Diana
Skipwith. Recorded Jan. 26, 1658/9 by Edward Dale.

Part IV:
Ebby Bonnison assigns over his right in this [the above Part III] bill of
Sale to Ever Peterson. Jan. 25, 1658/9. Witnesses Henry Rye and Domingno
Cras.
Recorded Jan. 26, 1658/9 by Edward Dale.

The problem with the above is that Part III was supposedly written in 1655
but not recorded until Jan. 26. 1659. On Jan. 26. 1659 in Lancaster County
Court Thomas Carter brother of Col. John Carter was first referred to as
deceased
and Diana Skipwith was the wife of the clerk of the court who recorded
this
deed throwing question on this section of the transaction. Walter Brice
was
also deceased by this time. This is one of the few transactions recorded
after the fact in Lancaster County, Virginia in this period. It also
seems
highly unlikely that Col. John Carter would not have acknowledged this
deed as he
was requested to do by Walter Brice and Ever Peterson. Something is
amiss
in this portion of the document.

The other portions of this deed make little sense also as the land seems
to
be transferred back and forth between Ebby Bonnison and Ever Peterson.

Walter Bries [Brice] held land in Lancaster County and was first mentioned
in deeds in 1652/3. He may be the brother of Col. Thomas Bries who died in
1656
leaving Edward Dale to oversee his estate and his wife Martha Bries as
his
executrix. Martha Bries remarried Rev. William White and Col. John Carter
became guardian for their children. It was land on Bries Creek that ended
up
in the possession of Mary Dale which is shown in various court orders in
1679-80.

It was Beverly Fleet who first noted that the deed read Walter Brice not
Bruce and he also was the first to observe that this deed transferred land
back
and forth between the same individuals and that Part III was recorded long
after it was written.

The other deeds witnessed by Diana Skipwith are mortgages from Thomas
Carter
to his brother Col. John Carter. One of these is also witnessed by Abby
Bonnison. Col. John Carter was his brother's heir.

As Joan Burdyck pointed out the original documents are long since
destroyed
and all we have is what was recorded by the Clerk of the Court at that
time
which was Edward Dale for two of these deeds and Vincent Stanford for the
other.

Best Regards,
MichaelAnne

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