Alice Batisford/Wm Echyngham

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charlotte smith

Alice Batisford/Wm Echyngham

Legg inn av charlotte smith » 15 feb 2006 18:17:02

<What is the evidence that William de Echyngham d 20 Mar 1412/3 was
married to
Alice Batisford ?
Thanks
<Will Johnson>

Several articles refer to this fact.
Vol 1 page 332 Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica gives chart of the Peplesham family and Margery Pepelsham md 2nd wm Batisford and they had Isabell who m arried WmFiennes;Joan who married Wm Brenchesley; Alice who married Wm Echyngham- The chart gives the children of Alice Batisford and Wm Echyngham as Joan wife of Wm Rikell(Rykhill) and Elizbeteh married to Thomas Hoo and 2nd Thomas Lewknor. (Joan was actually married to John Rikell son of Wm)

Sussex Arch Col Vol 8- Stained Glass Windows of Nettlestead Church(Kent) page 228 has a chart of theCrelle-Peplesham-Batisford chart with the 3 daughters of Margery Peplesham and Wm Batisford are again identified as Eliz(Isabelle) md Fienne, Joanne md Brenchley; Alice md W Echyngham The Arms of Batisford are found here.
In the church at Brenchley where Joan Batisford and Wm Brenchely resided the arms of Brenchely impaling Batisford and the arms of Etchdngham impaling Batisford are found

Although I have n ot seen the original article there is a court case that continued for some time and i s listed in PRO C1/19/280-290 regarding land owned by Batisford family and the people involved in claiming this are listed at Joan Rykill, Elizabreth Lewknor daughters of Wm Echyngham and Richard Fiennes(grandson of Elizabeth Batisford Fiennes) regarding this Batisford property. This shows the probability of relationship to Alice Batisford by Joan and Elizzbeth.

Sussex Inquisition in 1415 regarding land in winchelsea gives the names of Joan Rykill wife of John Rykhill and her sisterElizabeth(unmarried at this time) as daughters of Wm Echyngham . The use of the married name of Joan again identifies her from the other above charts.

William Echyngham married 2nd Joan Fitzalan Arundel between 1396-1401 and he would have been about 42 years old at this marriage, so again at this age no doubt a second marriage




charlotte c smith

Gordon and Jane Kirkemo

RE: Alice Batisford/Wm Echyngham

Legg inn av Gordon and Jane Kirkemo » 15 feb 2006 23:07:02

Charlotte,

Your posting below was of interest to me as it pertains to the Pepelsham
family. I'm hoping I can prevail upon you to post the Pepelsham lineage you
found. I have Martha Pepelsham as the wife of Robert Cralle/Crelle, and as
the daughter of Simon and Joane (Rowse) de Pepelsham. If your chart takes
the Pepelsham, Cralle, or Rowse lines further back, I'd greatly appreciate
being able to see where the lines go. Thanks.

Sincerely,
Gordon Kirkemo

-----Original Message-----
From: charlotte smith [mailto:charcsmith@verizon.net]
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Subject: Alice Batisford/Wm Echyngham

<What is the evidence that William de Echyngham d 20 Mar 1412/3 was
married to
Alice Batisford ?
Thanks
<Will Johnson>

Several articles refer to this fact.
Vol 1 page 332 Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica gives chart of the
Peplesham family and Margery Pepelsham md 2nd wm Batisford and they had
Isabell who m arried WmFiennes;Joan who married Wm Brenchesley; Alice who
married Wm Echyngham- The chart gives the children of Alice Batisford and Wm
Echyngham as Joan wife of Wm Rikell(Rykhill) and Elizbeteh married to
Thomas Hoo and 2nd Thomas Lewknor. (Joan was actually married to John
Rikell son of Wm)

Sussex Arch Col Vol 8- Stained Glass Windows of Nettlestead Church(Kent)
page 228 has a chart of theCrelle-Peplesham-Batisford chart with the 3
daughters of Margery Peplesham and Wm Batisford are again identified as
Eliz(Isabelle) md Fienne, Joanne md Brenchley; Alice md W Echyngham The
Arms of Batisford are found here.

In the church at Brenchley where Joan Batisford and Wm Brenchely resided
the arms of Brenchely impaling Batisford and the arms of Etchdngham
impaling Batisford are found

Although I have n ot seen the original article there is a court case that
continued for some time and i s listed in PRO C1/19/280-290 regarding land
owned by Batisford family and the people involved in claiming this are
listed at Joan Rykill, Elizabreth Lewknor daughters of Wm Echyngham and
Richard Fiennes(grandson of Elizabeth Batisford Fiennes) regarding this
Batisford property. This shows the probability of relationship to Alice
Batisford by Joan and Elizzbeth.

Sussex Inquisition in 1415 regarding land in winchelsea gives the names of
Joan Rykill wife of John Rykhill and her sisterElizabeth(unmarried at this
time) as daughters of Wm Echyngham . The use of the married name of Joan
again identifies her from the other above charts.

William Echyngham married 2nd Joan Fitzalan Arundel between 1396-1401
and he would have been about 42 years old at this marriage, so again at
this age no doubt a second marriage




charlotte c smith

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