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Yet another C.P. Correction: Amy not Joan Ufford and her dau

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 14 feb 2006 09:51:27

Dear Newsgroup ~

About a year ago, I posted material pertaining to the given name of the
wife of Sir William Bowet (died c. 1421), of Horsford, Norfolk. I
quoted several sources including a De Banco Roll pedigree which
identified his wife as Joan Ufford. This is the way her name appears
in all secondary sources that I've consulted to date, including
Complete Peerage. In my post, however, I pointed out several
contemporary records which made it equally clear that Sir William Bowet
was survived by a wife named Amy, who by all appearances seemed to be
the mother of his two daughters and co-heiresses, Elizabeth Lady Dacre
and Sibyl Osbern. After Sir William Bowet died, Amy held the manors of
Burgh St. Margaret and Horsford, Norfolk, both of which propeties were
part of her Ufford inheritance.

Thus, it was rather curious this past week that I came across another
contemporary record in which Sir William Bowet's wife was called Joan,
not Amy. This record comes from an Account Roll of the Barony of Lewes
dated 2-3 Henry IV [1401-1402]. The record mentions the three Ufford
sisters, Ela (wife of Richard Bowet and already of age), Joan (still a
minor), and an unnamed girl [Sibyl], aged 10 years, who was living in
Barking Abbey near London [Note: Sibyl is supposed to have become a
nun]. Joan was evidently not yet married to William Bowet (brother of
Richard), but she appears to have been in his wardship or already
contracted to marry him. The three sisters are called co-heiresses of
Lady Ela de Perpound, by which they inherited several manors named in
the account, including Hurstpierpoint, Sussex, and Benacre and
Wrentham, Suffolk.

Here specifically is what the account roll says:

"II. Account of the Barony of Lewes, 2-3 Henry IV (1400-1) [recte
1401-1402]."

"Barony. - Account of Robert Lytelcombe, Bailiff of the Barony there,
from the feast of St. Michael in the 2nd year of the reign of King
Henry the Fourth to the same feast next following in the 3rd year of
the reign of the same King Henry, for one whole year."

"Arrears. - He answers in respect of £188 4s. 4-1/2d. of arrears of
his last account of the preceding year, as appears at the foot of the
same account; of which upon William Hothlegh late bailiff of the
Barony, 24s. 7d.; John Bampton late Bailiff there, £7 3s. 0-1/2d.;
Richard Bowet for the Relief of Ela, co-heiress of Lady Ela de
Perpound, of full age in the feast of St. Bartholomew in the 22nd year
of the reign of King Richard the Second, due to the lord and (?from)
the wife of the said Richard, £25; the same Richard and his brother
for the occupation of the manor of Benacre coming into the lord's hand
by reason of the minority of Joan the sister of the said Ela, as for a
moiety of the said manor, in the lord's hands from the feast of St.
Bartholomew in the abovesaid year to the feast of St. Michael in the
aforesaid 23rd year as in the account of this office of the said year
more fully appears, £90; the same Richard and his brother as of
arrears of the moiety of the profits of the lands and tenements of the
manor of Hurstperpound with its members, namely Smythwyke, Goldebregge,
Novyngton, Westmeston, and Standen, as appears in the account of Robert
atte Strete the reeve there for the time abovesaid, and he is charged
in the account of this office for that year, £19 5s. 5-3/4d.; Thomas
Crewe, executor of the will of Sir John de Say as Relief of the manor
of Hammessay as in the account of the preceding year, £50; and upon
Robert Lytecoumbe the accountant from the issues of his office, £25
11s. 3d. Total, £188 4s. 4-3/4d."

"Wardships. - And of 6d. from half a pound of pepper proceeding from
rent of the heir of Richard Dymmok payable at the feast of St. Michael,
being in the lord's hand by reason of the minority of the lord of
Fenys, of which he is tenant. And he is charged with £53 6s. 8d. from
the issues of the manors of Hurstperpound, Westmeston', Goddebrugge,
Novington, Smethwyke, in the county of Sussex, and the manor of
Wrantham in the county of Suffolk, coming into the lord's hand by
reason of the minority of the sister of Joan, one of the coheiresses of
Lady Ela de Perpound, namely from the feast of Easter in the 2nd year
of the reign of King Henry IV [1401] to the same feast in the 3rd year
of the reign of the same King [1402], of a moiety of all the lands and
tenements aforesaid so coming into the lord's hands by reason of the
minority of the sister of the said Joan one of the coheiresses - which
sister of the said Joan is staying in the Abbey of Berkynnge near
Loundon and is of the age, as it is said, of about 10 years - from the
said feast of Easter in the 3rd year of the reign of the aforesaid King
Henry [1402] to the feast of St. Michael next ensuing in the 3rd year
of the reign of the aforesaid King Henry. Total £80 0s. 6d."

"Expenditure: Richard Bowet for the relief of Ela, coheiress of Lady
Ela de Perpound, of full age at the feast of St. Bartholomew in the
22nd year of the reign of King Richard the Second, due to the lord.
£25."

"The same Richard and his brother for the occupation of he Manor of
Benacre [Norfolk], coming into the lord's hands by reason of the
minority of Joan the sister of the said Ela, as for a moeity of the
said manor in the lord's hands from the feast of St. Bartholomew in the
year abovesaid until the feast of St. Michael in the 23rd year of the
reign of the aforesaid King, as in the account of the said Office of
the said year more fully appears. £60."

"The same Richard and his brother of arrears of the moiety of the
profits of the lands and tenements in the Manor of Hurstperpound with
its members, nanmely Smythwyke, Goldebregg', Novyngton, Westmeston',
and Standen, as appears in the account of Robert atte Strete the reeve
there of the time abovesaid, and they are charged in the account of
this office in evidence in that year etc. £19 5s. 5-3/4d."

"The same Richard and his brother and upon the sister of Joan staying
in the Abbey of Berkyng for the moiety of the issues of the Manors of
Hurstperpound, Smythwyke, Goldebregg', Novyngton, Westmeston' and
Standen' in the county of Sussex, and Wrantham in the county of Suffolk
for as they are within charged. £80."

"Thomas Crewe the executor of the will of Sir John de Say of the relief
of the Manor of Hammesay, as in the accounts of the preceding years,
£50. Roberft Litecombe, the bailiff accountant, in his own hands.
£48 18s. 4d." [Reference: Arnold J. Taylor, Records of the Barony and
Honour of the Rape of Lewes (Sussex Rec. Soc. 44) (1939): 61, 64-65].
END OF QUOTE

So, was Sir William Bowet's wife named Joan or Amy Ufford? If I
correctly understand the meaning of the record above and those records
I cited in my earlier post (see below), the answer appears to be that
she was known by both names, Joan AND Amy.

As what of Sir Ela de Pierpont? She appears to have been the Ufford
sisters' great-grandmother. This is indicated by a plea roll published
in Genealogist, n.s. 16 (1899): 41, in which the Ufford sisters'
paternal grandmother, Sibyl, wife of Sir Edmund Ufford, is identified
as the daughter of John Perpount, by Ela, daughter of William de
Calthorp, which John in turn was the son of Simon Perpount, Knt., of
Wrentham, Benacre, and Henstede, Suffolk, living 4 Edward III
[1330-31]).

This pedigree changes the normal arrangement of the Pierpont family
which places Sibyl, wife of Sir Edmund Ufford, as the daughter, not
granddaughter, of Simon de Pierpont. However, given that Sibyl's
mother was surely the Lady Ela de Pierpont named in the 1401/2 account
roll, it is likely the the plea roll is also correct that Sibyl's
father was John de Pierpont and that her grandfather was Simon de
Pierpont, Knt. Further research should be able to establish the
correct Pierpont pedigree.

It seems a good bet that Lady Ela (Calthorpe) Pierpont was in turn the
daughter of Sir William Calthorpe of Burnham Thorpe, Norfolk, by his
wife, Isabel Lovel, which couple appear in Jim Weber's online database.
My research indicates that this Sir William Calthorpe's mother, Ela de
Stanhowe, was the granddaughter and co-heiress of Alice d'Oyry, wife of
William de Beaumont. Alice d'Oyry was mentioned recently in the thread
regarding the parentage of Sir Hubert de Burgh, Earl of Kent.

For the extended ancestry of Sir William Calthorpe and his wife, Isabel
Lovel, see the weblink below to Jim Weber's database:

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bi ... style=TEXT

Jim's database shows that the Calthorpe-Lovel family has at least three
descents from Rohese Giffard. As a descendant of the Bowet-Ufford
family, the new Calthorpe-Lovel connection would boost my total of
descents from Rohese Giffard from six to a total of nine descents. I'm
on a roll now.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

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Dear Newsgroup ~

Complete Peerage sub Dacre states Joan Dacre (died 1486), suo jure
Baroness Dacre (wife of Sir Richard Fiennes), was "the daughter and
heiress of Sir Thomas Dacre, by Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of Sir
William Bowet, of Horsford, Burgh St. Margaret's, and Great Hautbois,
by Joan, daughter and heiress of Sir Robert Ufford, of Horsford, etc."
[Reference: Complete Peerage, 4 (1916): 8]. Slight documentation is
presented for these connections, one item being a De Banco Roll, 12
Henry IV, m. 293.

Most printed sources concur that Joan Dacre's maternal grandmother was
named Joan Ufford, wife of Sir William Bowet. Besides the De Banco
Roll item mentioned by Complete Peerage, Dugdale quotes a pedigree of
the Ufford family in which Joan Dacre's grandmother is specifically
named as Joan Ufford:

"... Et dictus Robertus Ufford maritatus fuit Elionoræ filæ Thomæ
Felton militis, qui genuit Elam, Sibillam, et Joannam filias,... et
prædicta Johanna nupta Willielmo Bowes armigero,... qui genuit ex ea
filiam, nuptam domino Dacres, et genuit ex filiam nomine Johannam quæ
nupta fuit Ricardo Fines militi, camerario domini regis Edwardi
quarti" [Reference: Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum, 3 (1826):
636-637 (Horsham Priory Founders Genealogy)].

Waters' Chester of Chicheley 1 (1878): 339-340 likewise claims that
Sir William Bowet's wife's name was Joan Ufford. He states they
jointly presented to Beanacre Rectory in 1409 and 1418, and to
Blythburgh Rectory in 1418 and 1420. He further states that following
Sir William Bowet's death in 1421, his widow Joan married (2nd) in or
before 1422 Sir Henry Inglose, of Loddon, Norfolk. Waters states Joan
Ufford had "an only child" by her 1st marriage to Bowet, namely Ela
Bowett, who married Thomas Dacre, Knt. As we shall see below, several
of these statements are in error.

Copinger's Manors of Suffolk likewise concurs that Sir William Bowet's
wife was Joan Ufford, daughter of Sir Robert Ufford. He states that
Joan and her husband presented to the Benacre living together in 1409
and that William presented alone in 1418 [Reference: W.A. Copinger,
Manors of Suffolk, 2 (1908): 5-6]. So everyone seems to agree that Sir
William Bowet's wife's name was Joan Ufford. We reportedly have the
testimony of at least three records, a De Banco roll, a pedigree of the
Ufford family from Horsham Priory, and Joan's presentation to Benacre
rectory in 1409. Usually this would be more than adequate evidence to
vouch for a woman's given name.

However, my research indicates that she was not named Joan at all.
Rather, I find that her name is given in several contemporary records
as Amy or Anne.

I show that in 1428, Henry Inglose, knight, was holding the manor of
Burgh St. Margaret, Norfolk in right of his wife, Amie ("tenet de jure
Amie, uxoris sue") [Reference: Feudal Aids, 3 (1904): 569]. Burgh St.
Margaret was a long time Clavering-Ufford family estate and fell by
inheritance to Henry Inglose's wife. In 1428 the manor of Horsford was
similarly held by a certain "Anne Bowet," this also being a long time
Clavering-Ufford estate [Reference: Feudal Aids, 3 (1904): 599]. The
woman involved in both of these records is the woman called Joan Ufford
in the sources cited above who married (1st) Sir William Bowet and
(2nd) Sir Henry Inglose.

Elsewhere, I find that Henry Inglose, Knt. and Anne his wife were
grantors in a conveyance by fine dated 17th Henry VI (i.e., 1438-39).
The grantees in this fine were Anne's daughter and son-in-law, Thomas
Dacre, junior, Knight, and Elizabeth his wife [Reference: Rye, Short
Cal. of Feet of Fines for Norfolk 2 (1886): 417]. The properties
involved are the manors of Horsford, Burgh St. Margaret, and Great
Hautbois, Norfolk, two of which properties are mentioned earlier above.
Henry Inglose, Knt. and his wife, Anne, are similar named in another
fine dated 17th and 18th Henry VI (i.e., 1438-40) [Reference: Rye,
Short Cal. of Feet of Fines for Norfolk 2 (1886): 418].

That Amy or Anne, wife of Henry Inglose, Knt., is the former wife of
Sir William Bowet is conclusively proven by the following two Chancery
records found in the helpful online National Archives catalogue
(http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp):

Chancery Proceedings, C 1/19/40: Robert Osbern and Sibil, his wife,
daughter of Sir William Bowet, knt., deceased v. Edmund Wichingham,
Robert Inglose, and sir John Parram, priest, executors of sir Henry
Inglose, knt., husband of Dame Amy Bowet, deceased, mother of the said
Sibyl.: Money arising from the sale of said Sibil's wardship and
marriage and the half of the manors of Blackhall, Botcherby
(Botchardby) and Stainton, Cumberland by the said sir William to lord
Dacres. Date: 1386-1486.

Chancery Proceedings, C 1/21/44: Robert Osbern, esq., of Barking. v.
Dame Elizabeth Daker, and Henry Inglose, and John Colvyle, knts., and
other feoffees.: Profits of the manor of Great (Mykel) Hautbois, the
dower of petitioner's wife Sibyl, sister of the said Dame Elizabeth.:
Norfolk. Date: 1386-1486.

We find that in the first suit above that Sir Henry Inglose's wife is
clearly called Dame Amy Bowet, widow of Sir William Bowet, and that
Dame Amy is styled "mother" of a hitherto unknown daughter by her Bowet
marriage, namely Sibyl, wife of Robert Osbern. In the second suit
above, Robert Osbern's wife, Sibyl, is specifically called "sister" of
Lady Elizabeth Dacre. Three Cumberland manors are mentioned in the
first suit, they presumably being the original lands of Sir William
Bowet himself, and not part of the Clavering-Ufford inheritance in
Norfolk and Suffolk.

That Sir William Bowet's wife was named Amy is further proven by yet
another document found in the National Archives catalogue:

PRO Document, C 146/230 - grant dated 20 Jan. 1422/3 by Amy, late the
wife of William Bowet, knight, to Geoffrey Haldeyn, vicar of Dilham,
and John Haldeyn, of Becklys, of land with a cottage thereon in Dilham,
Norfolk. Witnesses:- John Geney, knight, and others (named).

So, we find Sir William Bowet's wife and widow repeatedly called Amy,
Amie, or Anne in these records, and never Joan. With respect to the
correct form of her name, I believe that Amy is the more accurate form
of this woman's name, as indicated by the first Chancery Proceedings
cited above and by her own deed. For reasons not known to me, I
occasionally find Amy interchangeable in records with Anne.

In this vein, I might mention I've elsewhere found a short biography of
Sir William Bowet in the book, Inventory of Church Goods temp. Edward
III, transcribed by Dom. Aelred Watkin (Norfolk Record Soc. Vol. 19 Pt.
2) (1948): 189. In this work, Watkin correctly refers to Sir William
Bowet's wife as Amy, but he then mistakenly identifies her as the
daughter of Sir Thomas Felton, which person was actually this lady's
maternal grandfather. So, we have one step forward, one step back.

I've found no further records yet regarding Amy Ufford's 2nd daughter,
Sibyl Bowet, wife of Robert Osbern, Esq., of Barking. If anyone has
further particulars of the Osbern family, I'd appreciate hearing from
them here on the newsgroup. Further information on the history of the
Bowet, Ufford, and Clavering families can be found in my forthcoming
book, Magna Carta Ancestry, scheduled for publication in June 2005.

For interest's sake, I've listed below the name of the one colonial
American immigrant who descend from Amy Ufford, wife of Sir William
Bowet and Sir Henry Inglose:

1. Thomas Lunsford.

I presume Amy Ufford is likewise found in the ancestry of H.R.H.
Charles, Prince of Wales, and his former wife, Diana.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

Douglas Richardson

Re: Yet another C.P. Correction: Amy not Joan Ufford and her

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 14 feb 2006 09:58:10

Dear Newsgroup ~

In my post just now about Joan/Amy Ufford, wife of Sir William Bowet, I
stated that Sir William Bowet's wife is called Joan Ufford in all
secondary sources that I've consulted. Reading my post from a year
ago, I realized that I earlier found a short biography of Sir William
Bowet in the book, Inventory of Church Goods temp. Edward III,
transcribed by Dom. Aelred Watkin (Norfolk Record Soc. Vol. 19 Pt. 2)
(1948): 189. In this work, Watkin refers to Sir William Bowet's wife
as Amy, but he mistakenly identifies her as the daughter of Sir Thomas
Felton, which person was actually this lady's maternal grandfather.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

Douglas Richardson

Re: Yet another C.P. Correction: Amy not Joan Ufford and her

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 14 feb 2006 19:48:31

Dear Newsgroup ~

In my post last evening on Amy/Joan Ufford, I inadvertedly referred to
Lady Ela de Pierpont in one place as Sir Ela de Pierpont. This
transgender slip was not intentional. Ela was definitely a lady.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

Douglas Richardson

Re: Yet another C.P. Correction: Amy not Joan Ufford and her

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 17 feb 2006 18:27:49

Dear Newsgroup ~

As a followup to my earlier posts on Amy or Joan, wife (or wives) of
Sir William Bowet, I now have further information to report on this
perplexing matter. I've located a helpful article by Thomas
Barrett-Lennard entitled "Some account of the Manor or Castle of
Horsford" in Norfolk Archaeology, volume 15, pages 267-292, published
in 1904. On pages 275-276, the issue of the name of Sir William
Bowet's wife is discussed by Mr. Barrett-Lennard at length. As we will
see, earlier Norfolk antiquarians were equally troubled about the
correct name of Sir William Bowet's wife or wives.

"Sir Edmund [de Ufford] was succeeded by his son Sir Robert, who had no
sons, but three daughters. The youngest of these, whose name was Joan,
married Sir William Bowett, by whom she had an only child, Elizabeth.
Anthony Norris, careful antiquary as he was, made a mistake here, as he
insisted that her name was Amy and not Joan, and this in face of
several very ancient MS. pedigrees now in my possession, and which he
appears to have had access to. Mr. Walter Rye has entirely settled the
question by drawing my attention to a deed in 11 Henry IV. (1409-10),
by which Sir William Bowett and "Johanna" his wife settled the manor
upon trustees. Within eight years of the date of this deed Joan must
have died, and Sir William have married someone of the name of Amy, as
I have a deed dated 1st Feb., 5 Henry V. (1417-8), whereby the manor
was granted by trustees to Amye, wife of Sir William. By another deed
in my possession, dated 20th June, 10 Henry V. (1422), Amye widow of
Sir William, leases this Manor for seven years to the Prior of St.
Faith. Mr. Norris says that Amye married, as her second husband, Sir
Henry Inglose, and that when she died she was buried at Langley Priory.
He also says that Sir Henry married, as his second wife, Ann, daughter
and heiress of Sir John Wythe of Smallbury, and widow of Sir William
Calthorp of Burnham Thorpe, who died in 1451, was buried in the Priory
Church of St. Faith; and that Sir Henry by his will, which was proved
in July of the same year, directed he should be buried by her side.
Mr. Norris was of the opinion that Sir Henry Inglose possessed Horsford
until his death, but in fact, as Mr. Rye points out, there is a record
of a deed, dated 17 Henry VI (1438-9), by which Sir Henry and his wife
Anna conveyed this Manor to Sir Thomas Dacre and Elizabeth his wife.
At first sight it seems strange that Sir Henry should have possession
of that Manor to the exclusion of Elizabeth, the daughter of his first
wife's husband, Sir William Bowett, by the latter's first wife, Joan
Ufford, and this point seems to have had great weight with Mr. Norris;
but I think it is clear that Sir Henry, and before him his first wife,
had Horsford only during Elizabeth's minority, or until her marriage.
We do not know the date of her birth, nor when her mother died. The
first mention we have of her father's second wife is 1417; it is quite
possible that Elizabeth was born, that her mother died, and that her
father married his second wife all in that year; and if that were the
case, she would have just attained twenty-one years of age when, as we
have seen, the Manor was conveyed to her by Sir H., Inglose and his
wife." [Reference: Norfolk Archaeology, 15 (1904): 275-277]. END OF
QUOTE.

As we can see above, one side (Mr. Norris the antiquarian) argues that
the correct name of Sir William Bowet's wife was Amy Ufford, while Mr.
Barrett-Lennard argued that there were two wives, first Joan Ufford and
then Amy. Who is correct? If I understand the additional records
which I have dredged up, neither side is correct. There wasn't one
wife, Amy, or two wives, Joan and Amy. Rather, there was only one wife
who was known as both Joan and Amy. Here is what I've found:

As I indicated in my earlier post this week, Joan Ufford is mentioned
in an account roll dated 1401-2, she then being unmarried. Following
her marriage to William Bowet, Joan presented to the church of Benacre,
Suffolk jointly with her husband in 1409, this property being part of
her inheritance [Reference: Copinger, Manors of Suffolk, 2 (1908): 6].
According to the Norfolk Archaeology article above, in 1409-10, Joan
and Sir William Bowet made a settlement of Horsford, Norfolk was made
on trustees, this manor being part of her inheritance. Joan was still
living at Easter Term, 1411, when she and her husband, Sir William
Bowet sued Thomas Aleyn and others regarding an unjust disseisin in
Henstead, Suffolk, which property was also part of her inheritance
[Reference: Genealogist, n.s. 16: 41]. So far, so good. However, in
1417-18, Amy, wife of Sir William, was granted the manor of Horsford,
Norfolk by trustees, as per the Norfolk Archaeology article. This
manor was part of Joan Ufford's inheritance. According to Waters, Joan
(Ufford) Bowet presented to the rectory of Blythburgh, Suffolk in 1418
and 1420 [Reference: Waters, Chester of Chicheley 1 (1878): 339-340].
This property was also part of Joan Ufford's inheritance. If these
dates are correct, then Joan Ufford was living AFTER Sir William Bowet
allegedly married his second wife, Amy. If correct, it would explain
why Amy Bowet held the Ufford inheritance, as she was the same person
as Joan Ufford. However, this information about the presentations to
Blythburgh needs to be verified.

Regarding Barrett-Lennard's statement that "Amy" and her 2nd husband,
Sir Henry Inglose, only held the manor of Horsford during the minority
of "Joan" Ufford's daughter, Elizabeth Bowet, I can add the following
information. I show that Elizabeth Bowet married before 1433 Thomas
Dacre, and that he presented to the church of Benacre, Suffolk in her
right in 1434 [Reference: Waters, Chester of Chicheley 1 (1878):
339-340]. So it would appear that Elizabeth (Bowet) Dacre was
already married for some years and of full age in 1438-9, when Sir
Henry Inglose and his wife, Anna [recte Amy] conveyed the manor of
Horsford to Elizabeth and her husband. If Amy was Elizabeth's mother,
this would make perfect sense. However, it would surely be highly
irregular for Sir Henry Inglose to retain Horsford, Norfolk, if his
wife, Amy, was only step-mother to the rightful heiress.

Comments are invited.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

Douglas Richardson wrote:
Dear Newsgroup ~

About a year ago, I posted material pertaining to the given name of the
wife of Sir William Bowet (died c. 1421), of Horsford, Norfolk. I
quoted several sources including a De Banco Roll pedigree which
identified his wife as Joan Ufford. This is the way her name appears
in all secondary sources that I've consulted to date, including
Complete Peerage. In my post, however, I pointed out several
contemporary records which made it equally clear that Sir William Bowet
was survived by a wife named Amy, who by all appearances seemed to be
the mother of his two daughters and co-heiresses, Elizabeth Lady Dacre
and Sibyl Osbern. After Sir William Bowet died, Amy held the manors of
Burgh St. Margaret and Horsford, Norfolk, both of which propeties were
part of her Ufford inheritance.

Thus, it was rather curious this past week that I came across another
contemporary record in which Sir William Bowet's wife was called Joan,
not Amy. This record comes from an Account Roll of the Barony of Lewes
dated 2-3 Henry IV [1401-1402]. The record mentions the three Ufford
sisters, Ela (wife of Richard Bowet and already of age), Joan (still a
minor), and an unnamed girl [Sibyl], aged 10 years, who was living in
Barking Abbey near London [Note: Sibyl is supposed to have become a
nun]. Joan was evidently not yet married to William Bowet (brother of
Richard), but she appears to have been in his wardship or already
contracted to marry him. The three sisters are called co-heiresses of
Lady Ela de Perpound, by which they inherited several manors named in
the account, including Hurstpierpoint, Sussex, and Benacre and
Wrentham, Suffolk.

Here specifically is what the account roll says:

"II. Account of the Barony of Lewes, 2-3 Henry IV (1400-1) [recte
1401-1402]."

"Barony. - Account of Robert Lytelcombe, Bailiff of the Barony there,
from the feast of St. Michael in the 2nd year of the reign of King
Henry the Fourth to the same feast next following in the 3rd year of
the reign of the same King Henry, for one whole year."

"Arrears. - He answers in respect of £188 4s. 4-1/2d. of arrears of
his last account of the preceding year, as appears at the foot of the
same account; of which upon William Hothlegh late bailiff of the
Barony, 24s. 7d.; John Bampton late Bailiff there, £7 3s. 0-1/2d.;
Richard Bowet for the Relief of Ela, co-heiress of Lady Ela de
Perpound, of full age in the feast of St. Bartholomew in the 22nd year
of the reign of King Richard the Second, due to the lord and (?from)
the wife of the said Richard, £25; the same Richard and his brother
for the occupation of the manor of Benacre coming into the lord's hand
by reason of the minority of Joan the sister of the said Ela, as for a
moiety of the said manor, in the lord's hands from the feast of St.
Bartholomew in the abovesaid year to the feast of St. Michael in the
aforesaid 23rd year as in the account of this office of the said year
more fully appears, £90; the same Richard and his brother as of
arrears of the moiety of the profits of the lands and tenements of the
manor of Hurstperpound with its members, namely Smythwyke, Goldebregge,
Novyngton, Westmeston, and Standen, as appears in the account of Robert
atte Strete the reeve there for the time abovesaid, and he is charged
in the account of this office for that year, £19 5s. 5-3/4d.; Thomas
Crewe, executor of the will of Sir John de Say as Relief of the manor
of Hammessay as in the account of the preceding year, £50; and upon
Robert Lytecoumbe the accountant from the issues of his office, £25
11s. 3d. Total, £188 4s. 4-3/4d."

"Wardships. - And of 6d. from half a pound of pepper proceeding from
rent of the heir of Richard Dymmok payable at the feast of St. Michael,
being in the lord's hand by reason of the minority of the lord of
Fenys, of which he is tenant. And he is charged with £53 6s. 8d. from
the issues of the manors of Hurstperpound, Westmeston', Goddebrugge,
Novington, Smethwyke, in the county of Sussex, and the manor of
Wrantham in the county of Suffolk, coming into the lord's hand by
reason of the minority of the sister of Joan, one of the coheiresses of
Lady Ela de Perpound, namely from the feast of Easter in the 2nd year
of the reign of King Henry IV [1401] to the same feast in the 3rd year
of the reign of the same King [1402], of a moiety of all the lands and
tenements aforesaid so coming into the lord's hands by reason of the
minority of the sister of the said Joan one of the coheiresses - which
sister of the said Joan is staying in the Abbey of Berkynnge near
Loundon and is of the age, as it is said, of about 10 years - from the
said feast of Easter in the 3rd year of the reign of the aforesaid King
Henry [1402] to the feast of St. Michael next ensuing in the 3rd year
of the reign of the aforesaid King Henry. Total £80 0s. 6d."

"Expenditure: Richard Bowet for the relief of Ela, coheiress of Lady
Ela de Perpound, of full age at the feast of St. Bartholomew in the
22nd year of the reign of King Richard the Second, due to the lord.
£25."

"The same Richard and his brother for the occupation of he Manor of
Benacre [Norfolk], coming into the lord's hands by reason of the
minority of Joan the sister of the said Ela, as for a moeity of the
said manor in the lord's hands from the feast of St. Bartholomew in the
year abovesaid until the feast of St. Michael in the 23rd year of the
reign of the aforesaid King, as in the account of the said Office of
the said year more fully appears. £60."

"The same Richard and his brother of arrears of the moiety of the
profits of the lands and tenements in the Manor of Hurstperpound with
its members, nanmely Smythwyke, Goldebregg', Novyngton, Westmeston',
and Standen, as appears in the account of Robert atte Strete the reeve
there of the time abovesaid, and they are charged in the account of
this office in evidence in that year etc. £19 5s. 5-3/4d."

"The same Richard and his brother and upon the sister of Joan staying
in the Abbey of Berkyng for the moiety of the issues of the Manors of
Hurstperpound, Smythwyke, Goldebregg', Novyngton, Westmeston' and
Standen' in the county of Sussex, and Wrantham in the county of Suffolk
for as they are within charged. £80."

"Thomas Crewe the executor of the will of Sir John de Say of the relief
of the Manor of Hammesay, as in the accounts of the preceding years,
£50. Roberft Litecombe, the bailiff accountant, in his own hands.
£48 18s. 4d." [Reference: Arnold J. Taylor, Records of the Barony and
Honour of the Rape of Lewes (Sussex Rec. Soc. 44) (1939): 61, 64-65].
END OF QUOTE

So, was Sir William Bowet's wife named Joan or Amy Ufford? If I
correctly understand the meaning of the record above and those records
I cited in my earlier post (see below), the answer appears to be that
she was known by both names, Joan AND Amy.

As what of Sir Ela de Pierpont? She appears to have been the Ufford
sisters' great-grandmother. This is indicated by a plea roll published
in Genealogist, n.s. 16 (1899): 41, in which the Ufford sisters'
paternal grandmother, Sibyl, wife of Sir Edmund Ufford, is identified
as the daughter of John Perpount, by Ela, daughter of William de
Calthorp, which John in turn was the son of Simon Perpount, Knt., of
Wrentham, Benacre, and Henstede, Suffolk, living 4 Edward III
[1330-31]).

This pedigree changes the normal arrangement of the Pierpont family
which places Sibyl, wife of Sir Edmund Ufford, as the daughter, not
granddaughter, of Simon de Pierpont. However, given that Sibyl's
mother was surely the Lady Ela de Pierpont named in the 1401/2 account
roll, it is likely the the plea roll is also correct that Sibyl's
father was John de Pierpont and that her grandfather was Simon de
Pierpont, Knt. Further research should be able to establish the
correct Pierpont pedigree.

It seems a good bet that Lady Ela (Calthorpe) Pierpont was in turn the
daughter of Sir William Calthorpe of Burnham Thorpe, Norfolk, by his
wife, Isabel Lovel, which couple appear in Jim Weber's online database.
My research indicates that this Sir William Calthorpe's mother, Ela de
Stanhowe, was the granddaughter and co-heiress of Alice d'Oyry, wife of
William de Beaumont. Alice d'Oyry was mentioned recently in the thread
regarding the parentage of Sir Hubert de Burgh, Earl of Kent.

For the extended ancestry of Sir William Calthorpe and his wife, Isabel
Lovel, see the weblink below to Jim Weber's database:

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bi ... style=TEXT

Jim's database shows that the Calthorpe-Lovel family has at least three
descents from Rohese Giffard. As a descendant of the Bowet-Ufford
family, the new Calthorpe-Lovel connection would boost my total of
descents from Rohese Giffard from six to a total of nine descents. I'm
on a roll now.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

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COPY OF EARLIER POST

Dear Newsgroup ~

Complete Peerage sub Dacre states Joan Dacre (died 1486), suo jure
Baroness Dacre (wife of Sir Richard Fiennes), was "the daughter and
heiress of Sir Thomas Dacre, by Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of Sir
William Bowet, of Horsford, Burgh St. Margaret's, and Great Hautbois,
by Joan, daughter and heiress of Sir Robert Ufford, of Horsford, etc."
[Reference: Complete Peerage, 4 (1916): 8]. Slight documentation is
presented for these connections, one item being a De Banco Roll, 12
Henry IV, m. 293.

Most printed sources concur that Joan Dacre's maternal grandmother was
named Joan Ufford, wife of Sir William Bowet. Besides the De Banco
Roll item mentioned by Complete Peerage, Dugdale quotes a pedigree of
the Ufford family in which Joan Dacre's grandmother is specifically
named as Joan Ufford:

"... Et dictus Robertus Ufford maritatus fuit Elionoræ filæ Thomæ
Felton militis, qui genuit Elam, Sibillam, et Joannam filias,... et
prædicta Johanna nupta Willielmo Bowes armigero,... qui genuit ex ea
filiam, nuptam domino Dacres, et genuit ex filiam nomine Johannam quæ
nupta fuit Ricardo Fines militi, camerario domini regis Edwardi
quarti" [Reference: Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum, 3 (1826):
636-637 (Horsham Priory Founders Genealogy)].

Waters' Chester of Chicheley 1 (1878): 339-340 likewise claims that
Sir William Bowet's wife's name was Joan Ufford. He states they
jointly presented to Beanacre Rectory in 1409 and 1418, and to
Blythburgh Rectory in 1418 and 1420. He further states that following
Sir William Bowet's death in 1421, his widow Joan married (2nd) in or
before 1422 Sir Henry Inglose, of Loddon, Norfolk. Waters states Joan
Ufford had "an only child" by her 1st marriage to Bowet, namely Ela
Bowett, who married Thomas Dacre, Knt. As we shall see below, several
of these statements are in error.

Copinger's Manors of Suffolk likewise concurs that Sir William Bowet's
wife was Joan Ufford, daughter of Sir Robert Ufford. He states that
Joan and her husband presented to the Benacre living together in 1409
and that William presented alone in 1418 [Reference: W.A. Copinger,
Manors of Suffolk, 2 (1908): 5-6]. So everyone seems to agree that Sir
William Bowet's wife's name was Joan Ufford. We reportedly have the
testimony of at least three records, a De Banco roll, a pedigree of the
Ufford family from Horsham Priory, and Joan's presentation to Benacre
rectory in 1409. Usually this would be more than adequate evidence to
vouch for a woman's given name.

However, my research indicates that she was not named Joan at all.
Rather, I find that her name is given in several contemporary records
as Amy or Anne.

I show that in 1428, Henry Inglose, knight, was holding the manor of
Burgh St. Margaret, Norfolk in right of his wife, Amie ("tenet de jure
Amie, uxoris sue") [Reference: Feudal Aids, 3 (1904): 569]. Burgh St.
Margaret was a long time Clavering-Ufford family estate and fell by
inheritance to Henry Inglose's wife. In 1428 the manor of Horsford was
similarly held by a certain "Anne Bowet," this also being a long time
Clavering-Ufford estate [Reference: Feudal Aids, 3 (1904): 599]. The
woman involved in both of these records is the woman called Joan Ufford
in the sources cited above who married (1st) Sir William Bowet and
(2nd) Sir Henry Inglose.

Elsewhere, I find that Henry Inglose, Knt. and Anne his wife were
grantors in a conveyance by fine dated 17th Henry VI (i.e., 1438-39).
The grantees in this fine were Anne's daughter and son-in-law, Thomas
Dacre, junior, Knight, and Elizabeth his wife [Reference: Rye, Short
Cal. of Feet of Fines for Norfolk 2 (1886): 417]. The properties
involved are the manors of Horsford, Burgh St. Margaret, and Great
Hautbois, Norfolk, two of which properties are mentioned earlier above.
Henry Inglose, Knt. and his wife, Anne, are similar named in another
fine dated 17th and 18th Henry VI (i.e., 1438-40) [Reference: Rye,
Short Cal. of Feet of Fines for Norfolk 2 (1886): 418].

That Amy or Anne, wife of Henry Inglose, Knt., is the former wife of
Sir William Bowet is conclusively proven by the following two Chancery
records found in the helpful online National Archives catalogue
(http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp):

Chancery Proceedings, C 1/19/40: Robert Osbern and Sibil, his wife,
daughter of Sir William Bowet, knt., deceased v. Edmund Wichingham,
Robert Inglose, and sir John Parram, priest, executors of sir Henry
Inglose, knt., husband of Dame Amy Bowet, deceased, mother of the said
Sibyl.: Money arising from the sale of said Sibil's wardship and
marriage and the half of the manors of Blackhall, Botcherby
(Botchardby) and Stainton, Cumberland by the said sir William to lord
Dacres. Date: 1386-1486.

Chancery Proceedings, C 1/21/44: Robert Osbern, esq., of Barking. v.
Dame Elizabeth Daker, and Henry Inglose, and John Colvyle, knts., and
other feoffees.: Profits of the manor of Great (Mykel) Hautbois, the
dower of petitioner's wife Sibyl, sister of the said Dame Elizabeth.:
Norfolk. Date: 1386-1486.

We find that in the first suit above that Sir Henry Inglose's wife is
clearly called Dame Amy Bowet, widow of Sir William Bowet, and that
Dame Amy is styled "mother" of a hitherto unknown daughter by her Bowet
marriage, namely Sibyl, wife of Robert Osbern. In the second suit
above, Robert Osbern's wife, Sibyl, is specifically called "sister" of
Lady Elizabeth Dacre. Three Cumberland manors are mentioned in the
first suit, they presumably being the original lands of Sir William
Bowet himself, and not part of the Clavering-Ufford inheritance in
Norfolk and Suffolk.

That Sir William Bowet's wife was named Amy is further proven by yet
another document found in the National Archives catalogue:

PRO Document, C 146/230 - grant dated 20 Jan. 1422/3 by Amy, late the
wife of William Bowet, knight, to Geoffrey Haldeyn, vicar of Dilham,
and John Haldeyn, of Becklys, of land with a cottage thereon in Dilham,
Norfolk. Witnesses:- John Geney, knight, and others (named).

So, we find Sir William Bowet's wife and widow repeatedly called Amy,
Amie, or Anne in these records, and never Joan. With respect to the
correct form of her name, I believe that Amy is the more accurate form
of this woman's name, as indicated by the first Chancery Proceedings
cited above and by her own deed. For reasons not known to me, I
occasionally find Amy interchangeable in records with Anne.

In this vein, I might mention I've elsewhere found a short biography of
Sir William Bowet in the book, Inventory of Church Goods temp. Edward
III, transcribed by Dom. Aelred Watkin (Norfolk Record Soc. Vol. 19 Pt.
2) (1948): 189. In this work, Watkin correctly refers to Sir William
Bowet's wife as Amy, but he then mistakenly identifies her as the
daughter of Sir Thomas Felton, which person was actually this lady's
maternal grandfather. So, we have one step forward, one step back.

I've found no further records yet regarding Amy Ufford's 2nd daughter,
Sibyl Bowet, wife of Robert Osbern, Esq., of Barking. If anyone has
further particulars of the Osbern family, I'd appreciate hearing from
them here on the newsgroup. Further information on the history of the
Bowet, Ufford, and Clavering families can be found in my forthcoming
book, Magna Carta Ancestry, scheduled for publication in June 2005.

For interest's sake, I've listed below the name of the one colonial
American immigrant who descend from Amy Ufford, wife of Sir William
Bowet and Sir Henry Inglose:

1. Thomas Lunsford.

I presume Amy Ufford is likewise found in the ancestry of H.R.H.
Charles, Prince of Wales, and his former wife, Diana.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

Ginny Wagner

Polygamy

Legg inn av Ginny Wagner » 17 feb 2006 19:44:01

What is the proper way to handle polygamous marriages?

Ginny
ginnywagner@austin.rr.com

the_verminator@comcast.ne

Re: Polygamy

Legg inn av the_verminator@comcast.ne » 17 feb 2006 20:00:27

"Ginny Wagner" wrote:
What is the proper way to handle polygamous marriages?

Ginny
ginnywagner@austin.rr.com

Carefully... and at a distance ! <GRIN>

--
The Verminator

RAY Montgomery

Re: Polygamy

Legg inn av RAY Montgomery » 17 feb 2006 20:13:01

That depends if you are the man of one of the women!
I personally could not handle one woman!
Just thought I would share that! FWIW :)
Ray





From: "the_verminator@comcast.net" <the_verminator@comcast.net
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: Polygamy
Date: 17 Feb 2006 11:00:27 -0800


"Ginny Wagner" wrote:
What is the proper way to handle polygamous marriages?

Ginny
ginnywagner@austin.rr.com

Carefully... and at a distance ! <GRIN

--
The Verminator

Douglas Richardson

Re: Yet another C.P. Correction: Amy not Joan Ufford and her

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 17 feb 2006 21:29:52

Dear Newsgroup ~

Upon reviewing the information on Joan Ufford, I find that she was
regularly called Joan in 1401/2, 1409, 1409/10, and 1411. Then, in
1413, her husband Sir William Bowet presented alone to the church of
Hurstpierpont, Sussex, and also to Benacre, Suffolk alone in 1418. This
suggests to me that Joan died sometime between 1411 and 1413, in spite
of Waters' statements that she presented to churches in 1418 and 1420.
Joan had one daughter, Elizabeth. Sometime before 1 Feb. 1417/18, Sir
William Bowet was married to a woman named Amy, by whom he had a
daughter, Sibyl. Amy survived him and married Sir Henry Inglose, of
Dilham, Norfolk. Sir Henry Inglose is thought to have had another
wife, Anne, widow of John Calthorpe, and daughter of Sir John Wythe.
However, as will been seen below, Amy, widow of Sir William Bowet, is
the same person as "Anne" Wythe, widow of John Calthorpe. The
confusion of Amy versus Anne seems to run rampant in all of the sources
I've consulted.

The correct sequence of events in the lives of Sir William Bowet's two
wives, Joan Ufford and Amy Wythe, is set forth rather accurately in the
book, The Paston Family in the Fifteenth Century: The First Phase, by
Colin Richmond, published in 1990. On page 216-217, he discusses the
history of Amy Wythe, wife successively of John Calthorpe, Sir William
Bowet, and Sir Henry Inglose:

"Another and altogether more revealing glimpse of the drama is revealed
in proceedings in Chancery after Sir Henry [Inglose]'s death. When he
married Amy (or Ann) Bowet sometime between 1423 and 1427 he was her
third husband. Amy was the daughter and heiress of Sir John Wythe of
Smallborough (next door to Dilham), who had died in 1387. Whereas (and
perhaps when) her mother Sibylle married Sir William Calthorp, Amy was
married to Sir William's son, John Calthorp. John and Amy had a son in
1410, the Sir William Calthorp, who died in 1494. John Calthorp died
young, at Southampton of dysentery contracted at the siege of Harfleur,
in October 1415; soon afterwards Amy was writing her "Paston letter"
and signing herself Amy Bowet. After Sir William Calthorp died in
1420, Amy and Sir William Bowet purchased from the Crown via Robert,
Lord Willoughby, the wardship and marriage of her son, William
Calthorp, for 700 marks. Sir William Bowet, the son and heir of Thomas
Bowet of Cumbia, had inherited three Cumbian manors (which were held by
his mother Margaret for life), and had obtained three Norfolk
properties and seven Suffolk ones with his first wife Joan, daughter
and heir of Sir Robert Ufford. The Norfolk properties were Horsford,
Burgh St. Margarets and Great Hautbois; the Suffolk ones, Benacre,
Covehithe, Henstead, South Cove, Thorington and Burgh by Grundisbrugh.
But Sir William Bowet soon died, and was buried beside Joan Ufford at
Langley near Loddon, leaving Amy widowed a second time. Thus, when Amy
married Sir Henry Inglose between 1423 and 1427 she took to him two
children Sir William Calthorp and Sibylle Bowet. A third child,
Elizabeth, Sir William Bowet's daughter by Joan Ufford, he had already
"sold" to Thomas, Lord Dacre. She was valuable because, Sir William
having no sons by Joan Ufford, she was Joan's heir; she was also with
Sibylle co-heiress to her father."

Colin Richmond gives more detailed information in subsequent pages,
which is too lengthy to repeat her. One thing he explains is that Sir
William Bowet settled the Suffolk estates of his first wife, Joan
Ufford, on his second wife, Amy Wythe, for life and "ten years over."
This highly irregular settlement explains how after Sir William Bowet
died, Amy Wythe held the Ufford inheritance with her third husband, Sir
Henry Inglose, to the exclusion of Joan Ufford's daughter and rightful
heir, Elizabeth (Bowet) Dacre. The short end of it, however, is the
Mr. Richmond's information makes it certain now that Sir William Bowet
had two wives, Joan Ufford and Amy Wythe.

I note that Richmond identifies Sir William Bowet as the son and heir
of Thomas Bowet, of Cumbria, by his wife, Margaret. I have not seen
Sir William Bowet's parents identified in print before now. The three
manors which Thomas Bowet held were of Blackhall, Botcherby, and
Stainton, Cumberland. I believe this would be new ancestry for Sir
William Bowet.

One possible addition to Richmond's comments: Richmond says in two
places that Amy Wythe had only one child, William, by her 1st marriage
to John Calthorpe. However, the 1563 Visitation of Norfolk assigns
them two children, a son, William, and an unnamed daughter, "wife of
Thomas Bruse of Wenham." There is likewise a Calthorpe pedigree which
accompanies an article on the Calthorpe family in Norfolk Archaeology,
vol. 9, published in 1884. The author, Rev. James Lee-Warner, assigns
four children to Amy Wythe's marriage to "Sir John Calthorp," namely
William (died 1494), Margaret (wife of Wt. Aslak of Creak), Aimé or
Anne (wife of Sir Thomas Brews), and _____ (wife of Colville, Brandon,
& Bertie). Unfortunately, no documentation accompanies the chart.

In conclusion to this discussion, it appears that Complete Peerage, 4
(1916): 8 (sub Dacre) needs only an additional amendment to reflect
that Joan Ufford, daughter and heiress of Sir Robert Ufford, was the
first wife of Sir William Bowet. Joan Ufford was a separate and
distinct person from Sir William Bowet's 2nd wife, Amy (Wythe)
Calthorpe.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

Douglas Richardson wrote:
Dear Newsgroup ~

As a followup to my earlier posts on Amy or Joan, wife (or wives) of
Sir William Bowet, I now have further information to report on this
perplexing matter. I've located a helpful article by Thomas
Barrett-Lennard entitled "Some account of the Manor or Castle of
Horsford" in Norfolk Archaeology, volume 15, pages 267-292, published
in 1904. On pages 275-276, the issue of the name of Sir William
Bowet's wife is discussed by Mr. Barrett-Lennard at length. As we will
see, earlier Norfolk antiquarians were equally troubled about the
correct name of Sir William Bowet's wife or wives.

"Sir Edmund [de Ufford] was succeeded by his son Sir Robert, who had no
sons, but three daughters. The youngest of these, whose name was Joan,
married Sir William Bowett, by whom she had an only child, Elizabeth.
Anthony Norris, careful antiquary as he was, made a mistake here, as he
insisted that her name was Amy and not Joan, and this in face of
several very ancient MS. pedigrees now in my possession, and which he
appears to have had access to. Mr. Walter Rye has entirely settled the
question by drawing my attention to a deed in 11 Henry IV. (1409-10),
by which Sir William Bowett and "Johanna" his wife settled the manor
upon trustees. Within eight years of the date of this deed Joan must
have died, and Sir William have married someone of the name of Amy, as
I have a deed dated 1st Feb., 5 Henry V. (1417-8), whereby the manor
was granted by trustees to Amye, wife of Sir William. By another deed
in my possession, dated 20th June, 10 Henry V. (1422), Amye widow of
Sir William, leases this Manor for seven years to the Prior of St.
Faith. Mr. Norris says that Amye married, as her second husband, Sir
Henry Inglose, and that when she died she was buried at Langley Priory.
He also says that Sir Henry married, as his second wife, Ann, daughter
and heiress of Sir John Wythe of Smallbury, and widow of Sir William
Calthorp of Burnham Thorpe, who died in 1451, was buried in the Priory
Church of St. Faith; and that Sir Henry by his will, which was proved
in July of the same year, directed he should be buried by her side.
Mr. Norris was of the opinion that Sir Henry Inglose possessed Horsford
until his death, but in fact, as Mr. Rye points out, there is a record
of a deed, dated 17 Henry VI (1438-9), by which Sir Henry and his wife
Anna conveyed this Manor to Sir Thomas Dacre and Elizabeth his wife.
At first sight it seems strange that Sir Henry should have possession
of that Manor to the exclusion of Elizabeth, the daughter of his first
wife's husband, Sir William Bowett, by the latter's first wife, Joan
Ufford, and this point seems to have had great weight with Mr. Norris;
but I think it is clear that Sir Henry, and before him his first wife,
had Horsford only during Elizabeth's minority, or until her marriage.
We do not know the date of her birth, nor when her mother died. The
first mention we have of her father's second wife is 1417; it is quite
possible that Elizabeth was born, that her mother died, and that her
father married his second wife all in that year; and if that were the
case, she would have just attained twenty-one years of age when, as we
have seen, the Manor was conveyed to her by Sir H., Inglose and his
wife." [Reference: Norfolk Archaeology, 15 (1904): 275-277]. END OF
QUOTE.

As we can see above, one side (Mr. Norris the antiquarian) argues that
the correct name of Sir William Bowet's wife was Amy Ufford, while Mr.
Barrett-Lennard argued that there were two wives, first Joan Ufford and
then Amy. Who is correct? If I understand the additional records
which I have dredged up, neither side is correct. There wasn't one
wife, Amy, or two wives, Joan and Amy. Rather, there was only one wife
who was known as both Joan and Amy. Here is what I've found:

As I indicated in my earlier post this week, Joan Ufford is mentioned
in an account roll dated 1401-2, she then being unmarried. Following
her marriage to William Bowet, Joan presented to the church of Benacre,
Suffolk jointly with her husband in 1409, this property being part of
her inheritance [Reference: Copinger, Manors of Suffolk, 2 (1908): 6].
According to the Norfolk Archaeology article above, in 1409-10, Joan
and Sir William Bowet made a settlement of Horsford, Norfolk was made
on trustees, this manor being part of her inheritance. Joan was still
living at Easter Term, 1411, when she and her husband, Sir William
Bowet sued Thomas Aleyn and others regarding an unjust disseisin in
Henstead, Suffolk, which property was also part of her inheritance
[Reference: Genealogist, n.s. 16: 41]. So far, so good. However, in
1417-18, Amy, wife of Sir William, was granted the manor of Horsford,
Norfolk by trustees, as per the Norfolk Archaeology article. This
manor was part of Joan Ufford's inheritance. According to Waters, Joan
(Ufford) Bowet presented to the rectory of Blythburgh, Suffolk in 1418
and 1420 [Reference: Waters, Chester of Chicheley 1 (1878): 339-340].
This property was also part of Joan Ufford's inheritance. If these
dates are correct, then Joan Ufford was living AFTER Sir William Bowet
allegedly married his second wife, Amy. If correct, it would explain
why Amy Bowet held the Ufford inheritance, as she was the same person
as Joan Ufford. However, this information about the presentations to
Blythburgh needs to be verified.

Regarding Barrett-Lennard's statement that "Amy" and her 2nd husband,
Sir Henry Inglose, only held the manor of Horsford during the minority
of "Joan" Ufford's daughter, Elizabeth Bowet, I can add the following
information. I show that Elizabeth Bowet married before 1433 Thomas
Dacre, and that he presented to the church of Benacre, Suffolk in her
right in 1434 [Reference: Waters, Chester of Chicheley 1 (1878):
339-340]. So it would appear that Elizabeth (Bowet) Dacre was
already married for some years and of full age in 1438-9, when Sir
Henry Inglose and his wife, Anna [recte Amy] conveyed the manor of
Horsford to Elizabeth and her husband. If Amy was Elizabeth's mother,
this would make perfect sense. However, it would surely be highly
irregular for Sir Henry Inglose to retain Horsford, Norfolk, if his
wife, Amy, was only step-mother to the rightful heiress.

Comments are invited.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

Douglas Richardson wrote:
Dear Newsgroup ~

About a year ago, I posted material pertaining to the given name of the
wife of Sir William Bowet (died c. 1421), of Horsford, Norfolk. I
quoted several sources including a De Banco Roll pedigree which
identified his wife as Joan Ufford. This is the way her name appears
in all secondary sources that I've consulted to date, including
Complete Peerage. In my post, however, I pointed out several
contemporary records which made it equally clear that Sir William Bowet
was survived by a wife named Amy, who by all appearances seemed to be
the mother of his two daughters and co-heiresses, Elizabeth Lady Dacre
and Sibyl Osbern. After Sir William Bowet died, Amy held the manors of
Burgh St. Margaret and Horsford, Norfolk, both of which propeties were
part of her Ufford inheritance.

Thus, it was rather curious this past week that I came across another
contemporary record in which Sir William Bowet's wife was called Joan,
not Amy. This record comes from an Account Roll of the Barony of Lewes
dated 2-3 Henry IV [1401-1402]. The record mentions the three Ufford
sisters, Ela (wife of Richard Bowet and already of age), Joan (still a
minor), and an unnamed girl [Sibyl], aged 10 years, who was living in
Barking Abbey near London [Note: Sibyl is supposed to have become a
nun]. Joan was evidently not yet married to William Bowet (brother of
Richard), but she appears to have been in his wardship or already
contracted to marry him. The three sisters are called co-heiresses of
Lady Ela de Perpound, by which they inherited several manors named in
the account, including Hurstpierpoint, Sussex, and Benacre and
Wrentham, Suffolk.

Here specifically is what the account roll says:

"II. Account of the Barony of Lewes, 2-3 Henry IV (1400-1) [recte
1401-1402]."

"Barony. - Account of Robert Lytelcombe, Bailiff of the Barony there,
from the feast of St. Michael in the 2nd year of the reign of King
Henry the Fourth to the same feast next following in the 3rd year of
the reign of the same King Henry, for one whole year."

"Arrears. - He answers in respect of £188 4s. 4-1/2d. of arrears of
his last account of the preceding year, as appears at the foot of the
same account; of which upon William Hothlegh late bailiff of the
Barony, 24s. 7d.; John Bampton late Bailiff there, £7 3s. 0-1/2d.;
Richard Bowet for the Relief of Ela, co-heiress of Lady Ela de
Perpound, of full age in the feast of St. Bartholomew in the 22nd year
of the reign of King Richard the Second, due to the lord and (?from)
the wife of the said Richard, £25; the same Richard and his brother
for the occupation of the manor of Benacre coming into the lord's hand
by reason of the minority of Joan the sister of the said Ela, as for a
moiety of the said manor, in the lord's hands from the feast of St.
Bartholomew in the abovesaid year to the feast of St. Michael in the
aforesaid 23rd year as in the account of this office of the said year
more fully appears, £90; the same Richard and his brother as of
arrears of the moiety of the profits of the lands and tenements of the
manor of Hurstperpound with its members, namely Smythwyke, Goldebregge,
Novyngton, Westmeston, and Standen, as appears in the account of Robert
atte Strete the reeve there for the time abovesaid, and he is charged
in the account of this office for that year, £19 5s. 5-3/4d.; Thomas
Crewe, executor of the will of Sir John de Say as Relief of the manor
of Hammessay as in the account of the preceding year, £50; and upon
Robert Lytecoumbe the accountant from the issues of his office, £25
11s. 3d. Total, £188 4s. 4-3/4d."

"Wardships. - And of 6d. from half a pound of pepper proceeding from
rent of the heir of Richard Dymmok payable at the feast of St. Michael,
being in the lord's hand by reason of the minority of the lord of
Fenys, of which he is tenant. And he is charged with £53 6s. 8d. from
the issues of the manors of Hurstperpound, Westmeston', Goddebrugge,
Novington, Smethwyke, in the county of Sussex, and the manor of
Wrantham in the county of Suffolk, coming into the lord's hand by
reason of the minority of the sister of Joan, one of the coheiresses of
Lady Ela de Perpound, namely from the feast of Easter in the 2nd year
of the reign of King Henry IV [1401] to the same feast in the 3rd year
of the reign of the same King [1402], of a moiety of all the lands and
tenements aforesaid so coming into the lord's hands by reason of the
minority of the sister of the said Joan one of the coheiresses - which
sister of the said Joan is staying in the Abbey of Berkynnge near
Loundon and is of the age, as it is said, of about 10 years - from the
said feast of Easter in the 3rd year of the reign of the aforesaid King
Henry [1402] to the feast of St. Michael next ensuing in the 3rd year
of the reign of the aforesaid King Henry. Total £80 0s. 6d."

"Expenditure: Richard Bowet for the relief of Ela, coheiress of Lady
Ela de Perpound, of full age at the feast of St. Bartholomew in the
22nd year of the reign of King Richard the Second, due to the lord.
£25."

"The same Richard and his brother for the occupation of he Manor of
Benacre [Norfolk], coming into the lord's hands by reason of the
minority of Joan the sister of the said Ela, as for a moeity of the
said manor in the lord's hands from the feast of St. Bartholomew in the
year abovesaid until the feast of St. Michael in the 23rd year of the
reign of the aforesaid King, as in the account of the said Office of
the said year more fully appears. £60."

"The same Richard and his brother of arrears of the moiety of the
profits of the lands and tenements in the Manor of Hurstperpound with
its members, nanmely Smythwyke, Goldebregg', Novyngton, Westmeston',
and Standen, as appears in the account of Robert atte Strete the reeve
there of the time abovesaid, and they are charged in the account of
this office in evidence in that year etc. £19 5s. 5-3/4d."

"The same Richard and his brother and upon the sister of Joan staying
in the Abbey of Berkyng for the moiety of the issues of the Manors of
Hurstperpound, Smythwyke, Goldebregg', Novyngton, Westmeston' and
Standen' in the county of Sussex, and Wrantham in the county of Suffolk
for as they are within charged. £80."

"Thomas Crewe the executor of the will of Sir John de Say of the relief
of the Manor of Hammesay, as in the accounts of the preceding years,
£50. Roberft Litecombe, the bailiff accountant, in his own hands.
£48 18s. 4d." [Reference: Arnold J. Taylor, Records of the Barony and
Honour of the Rape of Lewes (Sussex Rec. Soc. 44) (1939): 61, 64-65].
END OF QUOTE

So, was Sir William Bowet's wife named Joan or Amy Ufford? If I
correctly understand the meaning of the record above and those records
I cited in my earlier post (see below), the answer appears to be that
she was known by both names, Joan AND Amy.

As what of Sir Ela de Pierpont? She appears to have been the Ufford
sisters' great-grandmother. This is indicated by a plea roll published
in Genealogist, n.s. 16 (1899): 41, in which the Ufford sisters'
paternal grandmother, Sibyl, wife of Sir Edmund Ufford, is identified
as the daughter of John Perpount, by Ela, daughter of William de
Calthorp, which John in turn was the son of Simon Perpount, Knt., of
Wrentham, Benacre, and Henstede, Suffolk, living 4 Edward III
[1330-31]).

This pedigree changes the normal arrangement of the Pierpont family
which places Sibyl, wife of Sir Edmund Ufford, as the daughter, not
granddaughter, of Simon de Pierpont. However, given that Sibyl's
mother was surely the Lady Ela de Pierpont named in the 1401/2 account
roll, it is likely the the plea roll is also correct that Sibyl's
father was John de Pierpont and that her grandfather was Simon de
Pierpont, Knt. Further research should be able to establish the
correct Pierpont pedigree.

It seems a good bet that Lady Ela (Calthorpe) Pierpont was in turn the
daughter of Sir William Calthorpe of Burnham Thorpe, Norfolk, by his
wife, Isabel Lovel, which couple appear in Jim Weber's online database.
My research indicates that this Sir William Calthorpe's mother, Ela de
Stanhowe, was the granddaughter and co-heiress of Alice d'Oyry, wife of
William de Beaumont. Alice d'Oyry was mentioned recently in the thread
regarding the parentage of Sir Hubert de Burgh, Earl of Kent.

For the extended ancestry of Sir William Calthorpe and his wife, Isabel
Lovel, see the weblink below to Jim Weber's database:

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bi ... style=TEXT

Jim's database shows that the Calthorpe-Lovel family has at least three
descents from Rohese Giffard. As a descendant of the Bowet-Ufford
family, the new Calthorpe-Lovel connection would boost my total of
descents from Rohese Giffard from six to a total of nine descents. I'm
on a roll now.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

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Dear Newsgroup ~

Complete Peerage sub Dacre states Joan Dacre (died 1486), suo jure
Baroness Dacre (wife of Sir Richard Fiennes), was "the daughter and
heiress of Sir Thomas Dacre, by Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of Sir
William Bowet, of Horsford, Burgh St. Margaret's, and Great Hautbois,
by Joan, daughter and heiress of Sir Robert Ufford, of Horsford, etc."
[Reference: Complete Peerage, 4 (1916): 8]. Slight documentation is
presented for these connections, one item being a De Banco Roll, 12
Henry IV, m. 293.

Most printed sources concur that Joan Dacre's maternal grandmother was
named Joan Ufford, wife of Sir William Bowet. Besides the De Banco
Roll item mentioned by Complete Peerage, Dugdale quotes a pedigree of
the Ufford family in which Joan Dacre's grandmother is specifically
named as Joan Ufford:

"... Et dictus Robertus Ufford maritatus fuit Elionoræ filæ Thomæ
Felton militis, qui genuit Elam, Sibillam, et Joannam filias,... et
prædicta Johanna nupta Willielmo Bowes armigero,... qui genuit ex ea
filiam, nuptam domino Dacres, et genuit ex filiam nomine Johannam quæ
nupta fuit Ricardo Fines militi, camerario domini regis Edwardi
quarti" [Reference: Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum, 3 (1826):
636-637 (Horsham Priory Founders Genealogy)].

Waters' Chester of Chicheley 1 (1878): 339-340 likewise claims that
Sir William Bowet's wife's name was Joan Ufford. He states they
jointly presented to Beanacre Rectory in 1409 and 1418, and to
Blythburgh Rectory in 1418 and 1420. He further states that following
Sir William Bowet's death in 1421, his widow Joan married (2nd) in or
before 1422 Sir Henry Inglose, of Loddon, Norfolk. Waters states Joan
Ufford had "an only child" by her 1st marriage to Bowet, namely Ela
Bowett, who married Thomas Dacre, Knt. As we shall see below, several
of these statements are in error.

Copinger's Manors of Suffolk likewise concurs that Sir William Bowet's
wife was Joan Ufford, daughter of Sir Robert Ufford. He states that
Joan and her husband presented to the Benacre living together in 1409
and that William presented alone in 1418 [Reference: W.A. Copinger,
Manors of Suffolk, 2 (1908): 5-6]. So everyone seems to agree that Sir
William Bowet's wife's name was Joan Ufford. We reportedly have the
testimony of at least three records, a De Banco roll, a pedigree of the
Ufford family from Horsham Priory, and Joan's presentation to Benacre
rectory in 1409. Usually this would be more than adequate evidence to
vouch for a woman's given name.

However, my research indicates that she was not named Joan at all.
Rather, I find that her name is given in several contemporary records
as Amy or Anne.

I show that in 1428, Henry Inglose, knight, was holding the manor of
Burgh St. Margaret, Norfolk in right of his wife, Amie ("tenet de jure
Amie, uxoris sue") [Reference: Feudal Aids, 3 (1904): 569]. Burgh St.
Margaret was a long time Clavering-Ufford family estate and fell by
inheritance to Henry Inglose's wife. In 1428 the manor of Horsford was
similarly held by a certain "Anne Bowet," this also being a long time
Clavering-Ufford estate [Reference: Feudal Aids, 3 (1904): 599]. The
woman involved in both of these records is the woman called Joan Ufford
in the sources cited above who married (1st) Sir William Bowet and
(2nd) Sir Henry Inglose.

Elsewhere, I find that Henry Inglose, Knt. and Anne his wife were
grantors in a conveyance by fine dated 17th Henry VI (i.e., 1438-39).
The grantees in this fine were Anne's daughter and son-in-law, Thomas
Dacre, junior, Knight, and Elizabeth his wife [Reference: Rye, Short
Cal. of Feet of Fines for Norfolk 2 (1886): 417]. The properties
involved are the manors of Horsford, Burgh St. Margaret, and Great
Hautbois, Norfolk, two of which properties are mentioned earlier above.
Henry Inglose, Knt. and his wife, Anne, are similar named in another
fine dated 17th and 18th Henry VI (i.e., 1438-40) [Reference: Rye,
Short Cal. of Feet of Fines for Norfolk 2 (1886): 418].

That Amy or Anne, wife of Henry Inglose, Knt., is the former wife of
Sir William Bowet is conclusively proven by the following two Chancery
records found in the helpful online National Archives catalogue
(http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp):

Chancery Proceedings, C 1/19/40: Robert Osbern and Sibil, his wife,
daughter of Sir William Bowet, knt., deceased v. Edmund Wichingham,
Robert Inglose, and sir John Parram, priest, executors of sir Henry
Inglose, knt., husband of Dame Amy Bowet, deceased, mother of the said
Sibyl.: Money arising from the sale of said Sibil's wardship and
marriage and the half of the manors of Blackhall, Botcherby
(Botchardby) and Stainton, Cumberland by the said sir William to lord
Dacres. Date: 1386-1486.

Chancery Proceedings, C 1/21/44: Robert Osbern, esq., of Barking. v.
Dame Elizabeth Daker, and Henry Inglose, and John Colvyle, knts., and
other feoffees.: Profits of the manor of Great (Mykel) Hautbois, the
dower of petitioner's wife Sibyl, sister of the said Dame Elizabeth.:
Norfolk. Date: 1386-1486.

We find that in the first suit above that Sir Henry Inglose's wife is
clearly called Dame Amy Bowet, widow of Sir William Bowet, and that
Dame Amy is styled "mother" of a hitherto unknown daughter by her Bowet
marriage, namely Sibyl, wife of Robert Osbern. In the second suit
above, Robert Osbern's wife, Sibyl, is specifically called "sister" of
Lady Elizabeth Dacre. Three Cumberland manors are mentioned in the
first suit, they presumably being the original lands of Sir William
Bowet himself, and not part of the Clavering-Ufford inheritance in
Norfolk and Suffolk.

That Sir William Bowet's wife was named Amy is further proven by yet
another document found in the National Archives catalogue:

PRO Document, C 146/230 - grant dated 20 Jan. 1422/3 by Amy, late the
wife of William Bowet, knight, to Geoffrey Haldeyn, vicar of Dilham,
and John Haldeyn, of Becklys, of land with a cottage thereon in Dilham,
Norfolk. Witnesses:- John Geney, knight, and others (named).

So, we find Sir William Bowet's wife and widow repeatedly called Amy,
Amie, or Anne in these records, and never Joan. With respect to the
correct form of her name, I believe that Amy is the more accurate form
of this woman's name, as indicated by the first Chancery Proceedings
cited above and by her own deed. For reasons not known to me, I
occasionally find Amy interchangeable in records with Anne.

In this vein, I might mention I've elsewhere found a short biography of
Sir William Bowet in the book, Inventory of Church Goods temp. Edward
III, transcribed by Dom. Aelred Watkin (Norfolk Record Soc. Vol. 19 Pt.
2) (1948): 189. In this work, Watkin correctly refers to Sir William
Bowet's wife as Amy, but he then mistakenly identifies her as the
daughter of Sir Thomas Felton, which person was actually this lady's
maternal grandfather. So, we have one step forward, one step back.

I've found no further records yet regarding Amy Ufford's 2nd daughter,
Sibyl Bowet, wife of Robert Osbern, Esq., of Barking. If anyone has
further particulars of the Osbern family, I'd appreciate hearing from
them here on the newsgroup. Further information on the history of the
Bowet, Ufford, and Clavering families can be found in my forthcoming
book, Magna Carta Ancestry, scheduled for publication in June 2005.

For interest's sake, I've listed below the name of the one colonial
American immigrant who descend from Amy Ufford, wife of Sir William
Bowet and Sir Henry Inglose:

1. Thomas Lunsford.

I presume Amy Ufford is likewise found in the ancestry of H.R.H.
Charles, Prince of Wales, and his former wife, Diana.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

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