rupenids?

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rupenids?

Legg inn av jlucsoler » 21 jan 2006 12:40:51

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2 Ashot III (VII) - King of Armenia
3 Khosrovanush
4Abbas - King of Armenia + 952
5 Princess of Tao
10 Gurgen II - Duke of Tao
11 Helen - Princess of Calarzene
22 Ashot II - Duke of Calarzene
23 Princess of Abasgia
46 Constantine III - Prince of Abasgia
47 Princess of Georgia
94 Adarnase IV (II) - King of Georgia
188 David I - King of Georgia

thx

jl

Kelsey Williams

Re: rupenids?

Legg inn av Kelsey Williams » 21 jan 2006 16:49:34

jlucsoler wrote:
que penser de cette ligne

2 Ashot III (VII) - King of Armenia

Ashot III was actually a Bagratid, not a Rupenid. He reigned 951-977
and his wife, Khosrovanush died in 981 (Toumanoff, _Manuel_, 109).

3 Khosrovanush
4Abbas - King of Armenia + 952

r. 928-951 and married a daughter of Gurgen II, Duke of Tao (Toumanoff,
108).

5 Princess of Tao
10 Gurgen II - Duke of Tao

Called "the Great"; Duke of Upper Tao (918-941) and Artanuji-Calarzene
(?-941). He died on 14 February 941 having married a daughter of Ashot
II, Duke of Artanuji-Calarzene (Toumanoff, 117).

11 Helen - Princess of Calarzene
22 Ashot II - Duke of Calarzene

Called "the Swift"; reigned 923-?, was dethroned and later died in 932.
He married a daughter of Constantine III, King of Abasgia (Toumanoff,
119).

23 Princess of Abasgia
46 Constantine III - Prince of Abasgia

Constantine III, King (not prince) of Abasgia (r. 899-915/16). He
married a daughter of Adarnase I, King of Iberia (Toumanoff, 65).

47 Princess of Georgia
94 Adarnase IV (II) - King of Georgia

Adarnase I or IV, King of Iberia (r. 888-916, titular king 916-923;
Toumanoff, 117).

188 David I - King of Georgia

Duke of Lower Tao (876-881), Prince of Iberia (876-881), killed by his
cousin, Narses I in 881. He married a cousin of Khoransh of Calarzene
(Toumanoff, 117).

thx

jl

The line looks perfectly sound to me.

Sincerely,
Kelsey J. Williams

zglorg

Re: rupenids Mr KELLEY

Legg inn av zglorg » 22 jan 2006 20:33:13

the problem is that i found the line on famillysearch.org

and the last generations are... auite astonishing

1.Constantine I King of Cilicia dead 1102
2. Ruben I - King of Cilicia + 1095

i am ok with that but.....


4 John-Smbat - Prince of Armenia
8 Ruben - Prince of Armenia , Governor of Laris
16 Taros - Prince of Armenia
32 Ashot III (VII) - King of Armenia
33 Khosrovanush
64 Abbas - King of Armenia + 952
65 Princess of Tao


and i thought rupen was probably an açrouni

Kelsey Williams a écrit :

jlucsoler wrote:
que penser de cette ligne

2 Ashot III (VII) - King of Armenia

Ashot III was actually a Bagratid, not a Rupenid. He reigned 951-977
and his wife, Khosrovanush died in 981 (Toumanoff, _Manuel_, 109).

3 Khosrovanush
4Abbas - King of Armenia + 952

r. 928-951 and married a daughter of Gurgen II, Duke of Tao (Toumanoff,
108).

5 Princess of Tao
10 Gurgen II - Duke of Tao

Called "the Great"; Duke of Upper Tao (918-941) and Artanuji-Calarzene
(?-941). He died on 14 February 941 having married a daughter of Ashot
II, Duke of Artanuji-Calarzene (Toumanoff, 117).

11 Helen - Princess of Calarzene
22 Ashot II - Duke of Calarzene

Called "the Swift"; reigned 923-?, was dethroned and later died in 932.
He married a daughter of Constantine III, King of Abasgia (Toumanoff,
119).

23 Princess of Abasgia
46 Constantine III - Prince of Abasgia

Constantine III, King (not prince) of Abasgia (r. 899-915/16). He
married a daughter of Adarnase I, King of Iberia (Toumanoff, 65).

47 Princess of Georgia
94 Adarnase IV (II) - King of Georgia

Adarnase I or IV, King of Iberia (r. 888-916, titular king 916-923;
Toumanoff, 117).

188 David I - King of Georgia

Duke of Lower Tao (876-881), Prince of Iberia (876-881), killed by his
cousin, Narses I in 881. He married a cousin of Khoransh of Calarzene
(Toumanoff, 117).


thx

jl

The line looks perfectly sound to me.

Sincerely,
Kelsey J. Williams

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