from the Aylesbury line which has been discussed so much on this list.
I came to this conclusion after finding virtually the entire line laid
out on ancestry.com, and at http://www.juch.org/. However, those
lines, as currently listed, become impossible beginning at Roger being
born at 1359, 10 years before his father Thomas' birth in 1369.
Clearly, something is amiss. In this list, Colin Bevan on Dec 12 2000,
at 4:46 pm wrote regarding Thomas,
"From previous discussions on this list, it was deemed not necessary to
be of full age to become a knight, so assuming he was about 18 when
this occurred, this would put his date of birth at about 1360."
From this it would appear that Thomas could actually have been
considerably older than 18 when he was knighted, and if this is what we
are basing his age on, then I would suggest that if Thomas' birthdate
were assumed to be 1341, then it would work out that both he and his
son could have been born when their fathers were 18, which is much more
possible.
Sir John Aylesbury=Isabell le Strange Lawrence Pebenham = Elizabeth
Engaine
May 1334 - 1410 abt 1350 abt 1334/1343-1399
abt 1345-?
(was b:1345) | |
| |
| |
Thomas Aylesbury = Katherine Pebenham
became bef 1361-1418 abt 1372-1436
(was b:1369) |
suggest (abt 1341-1418) |
Roger Aylesbury
1359-?
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Robert Aylesbury
1386-?
This being the case, I am wondering what basis we have for the
following birthdates being as listed, rather than values that would
work better with the facts which I know so far:
Name Listed Better
Sir John Aylesbury 1345 May 1334
Thomas Aylesbury 1369 1341
Isabell le Strange abt 1350 abt 1334
Katherine Pebenham abt 1372 abt 1341
Lawrence Pebenham abt 1334/1343 abt 1320
Elizabeth Engaine abt 1345 abt 1322
Perhaps this might have some impact on the discussion regarding Eubolo
as well? We apparently know an Eubolo was alive and killed a man in
1411, yet he is listed as living abt 1286-1335 and being a possible
parent of Isabell le Strange, (previously listed as born abt 1350). If
she were born in 1334, then his original dates might just become
possible as well.
I guess I should mention that in the older records there are quite a
few more impossibilites, which need to be discussed as well.