Nepos as kinsman

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Nepos as kinsman

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 11 jan 2006 20:50:44

Dear Newsgroup ~

As we saw in the postings this past week about Bishop Geoffrey de
Burgh, brother of Earl Hubert de Burgh, in the medieval time period the
Latin word "nepos" was often used to refer to one's kinsman, not
nephew. Below is another example of nepos meaning kinsman, which is
taken from an item dated 1282 in the Annals of Worcester Priory.

In this record, Robert de Mortimer (died 1287), of Richard's Castle,
Herefordshire, is styled "nepos" of Sir Edmund de Mortimer, of Wigmore,
Herefordshire. The two men were cousins to one another, not nephew and
uncle.

Annals of Worcester sub A.D. 1282:

"Tertio idus Decembris Edmundus de Mortuomari nondum miles, cum
fratribus suis militibus Rogero, Willelmo, et Galfrido, et aliis amicis
nomina novit Deus, et Robertus de Mortuomari, nepos ejus, scilicet
dominus castelli Ricardi, Leulinum principem Walliæ ..." [Reference:
Luard, Annales Monastici, 4 (Rolls Series 36) (1869): 484-485].

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

Douglas Richardson

Nepos as kinsman: Mortimer (Revised Post)

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 12 jan 2006 07:34:22

Dear Newsgroup ~

As we saw in the postings this past week about Bishop Geoffrey de
Burgh, brother of Earl Hubert de Burgh, in the medieval time period the
Latin word "nepos" was often used to refer to one's kinsman, not
nephew. Below is another example of nepos meaning kinsman, which is
taken from an item dated 1282 in the Annals of Worcester Priory.

In this record, Robert de Mortimer (died 1287), of Richard's Castle,
Herefordshire, is styled "nepos" of Edmund de Mortimer, of Wigmore,
Herefordshire. The two men were cousins to one another, not nephew and
uncle.

Annals of Worcester sub A.D. 1282:

"Tertio idus Decembris [11 December] Edmundus de Mortuomari nondum
miles, cum fratribus suis militibus Rogero, Willelmo, et Galfrido, et
aliis amicis nomina novit Deus, et Robertus de Mortuomari, nepos ejus,
scilicet dominus castelli Ricardi, Leulinum principem Walliæ ..."
[Reference: Luard, Annales Monastici, 4 (Rolls Series 36) (1869):
484-485].

Edmund de Mortimer is styled "not yet knight" [nondum miles], as he had
just vacated his position as Canon of Hereford the month previous,
after which he was granted livery of his father's lands as his heir
on 24 November 1282.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

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