Could the names "Syagrius" and "Philagrius" be the same?

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Could the names "Syagrius" and "Philagrius" be the same?

Legg inn av MLS » 04 jan 2006 00:39:01

Could the names "Syagrius" and "Philagrius" be the same? For example,
transalted in italian, the first became Siagrio and the secon Filagrio,
and anyone know that f and s can be interchangeable in many languages..

I'd like to know the gorup members opinions on this topic
Thanks to all
Marco

-----Original Message-----
From: MLS [mailto:cannalonga@email.it]
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 11:29 PM
To: 'ancient_genealogy@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: PS RE: My direct Line from Flavius Eparchius Philagrius //
ComesOrientis abt 382 Bishop of Cyprus; Prefect



PS:

The source is a genealogist named Ippolito Calandrini, quite famous ad
genealogist in Parma on the XVII century. In my family archive we keep
his original manuscript and also a very rare printed book: Ippolito
Calandrini
"Il publio Svezzese. Dell'antichissima e nobilissima famiglia degli
illustrissimi signori marchesi di Soragna e vita del glorioso San Lupo
vescovo e confessore" stampato in Parma, per i tipi di Mario Vigna, nel
1653

On this book Calandrini trace a complete genealogy of the LUPIS family
from the first Saint Lupo or Lupus, bishop of Troyes son, he write, of
Eparchius. In the Settipani book about the nobility of MIDI can find a
tree of Saint Lupo, son of Eparchius Philagrius, noble of Toul
(Toulouse) that match whit the Calandrini's book. In this same book,
Calandrini wrote that the first taken the surname LUPIS was one of the
brothers of Saint Lupo, because, after the death of the brother,
"Sisulfo (o Gisulfo) dopo la morte del fratello San Lupo, vescovo di
Troyes, "pensò il modo col quale esso, e suoi descendenti, la
felicissima memoria del Santo conservare si dovesse; e così di Franconio
il Cognome, col quale chiamato venia, determinò di lasciare, e
sottoscriversi Sisulfo Lupo. E per corpo d'impresa, una Lupa di color
Celeste ergendosi, animata dal motto T. E. D: con le quali lettere
l'amor verso del fratello eccessivo palesar voleva, cioé Teco Esso
Desidero, e con detto motivo ebbe l'arma de' Lupis il suo principio
illustre". (I strongly hope that the friends in this list can read
Italian!)

Also according whit Calandrini, this Sisulfo LUPIS was taken as
"Scudiere del re di Francia Meroveo" from age of 18 and served later
from more 26 years as "scudiere" of king Childerico. Then his son Lupo
"inherited" this title and served , from the age of 26 , the successor
of king Childerich, king Clodio.

I'm still hope that someone can help me to find the ancestry of the
first Philagrius Thanks for any help

The duke Marco Lupis

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Hoskins [mailto:hoskins@sonoma.lib.ca.us]
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 7:41 PM
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: My direct Line from Flavius Eparchius Philagrius //
ComesOrientis abt 382 Bishop of Cyprus; Prefect


Dear Sir,

Like others, I am most interested in your posting. Please inform us of
online sources - such as perhaps http://www.sardimpex.com/ - or print
sources where we might begin launch enquiry into this ancestry.

Sincerely,



Anthony Hoskins
History, Genealogy and Archives Librarian
History and Genealogy Library
Sonoma County Library
3rd and E Streets
Santa Rosa, California 95404

707/545-0831, ext. 562



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