Breaking line Viel Engaine -->> Adam, 3rd Lord Welles b 1304

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Breaking line Viel Engaine -->> Adam, 3rd Lord Welles b 1304

Legg inn av Gjest » 28 des 2005 05:17:01

On Leo's great web site here
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 4&tree=LEO

we see Sir Viel Engaine d 22 Oct 1248
Leo's cites CP for his daughter Joane Engaine

Clicking to Joane's page we see she died 1 June 1315 after two marriages
First to Walter FitzRobert b 1275 d 1293 (no sources cited)
Second to Adam 1st Baron Welles abt 1296

by which a son b 22 Jul 1304

I challenge this. If Joane is daugter to Viel then she must have been born
before or perhaps slightly after he died, so as late as 1249. This would make
her the tender age of 55 at the birth of her purported son Adam 3rd Lord
Welles.

Will Johnson

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Re: Breaking line Viel Engaine -->> Adam, 3rd Lord Welles b

Legg inn av Gjest » 28 des 2005 05:17:02

Will
Joan Engaine wasn't the dau of Viel Engaine. She Was his Granddaughter
her father was Sir John Engaine who died 5 Jan 1297 by his wife Joan de
Greinville. She was the Youngest dau and sister to Joyce Engaine wife
Roger de Huntingfield.
Hope this helps

Mike Welch

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