On Leo's great website here
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 0&tree=LEO
we see Sir Anthony Poyntz with his wife Elizabeth Huddesfield
She d bef 12 Apr 1527
Now please flip your attention to
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 0&tree=LEO
where we see Joan Vaux, wife of Richard Guldeford (Guildford)
Richard died 6 sep 1506 in Jerusalem (see Dictionary of National Biography,
"Guildford, Richard" online at http://www.ancestry.com)
Now I present primary documentation that these two persons, widow and
widower, married each other, bef 20 Feb 1522
Will Johnson
-------------------------------------------------------------------
East Sussex Record Office: Archive of the Gage family of Firle [SAS/G21/1 -
SAS/G46/14]
Archive of Gage family of Firle
Catalogue Ref. SAS/G
Creator(s): Gage family of Firle, East Sussex
FAMILY SETTLEMENTS
FILE - Assignment of a lease - ref. SAS/G21/18 - date: 20 Feb 1522
[from Scope and Content] Anthony Poynes, kt, and his wife Joan, late the wife
of Richard Guldeford, kt, deceased, to Master Thomas Larck, clerk, and Henry
Guldeford, kt
FILE - Settlement - ref. SAS/G21/7 - date: 20 May 1528
[from Scope and Content] Christopher Baynham, kt (son and heir of Alice
Denys, late the wife of Thomas Baynham, kt and daughter of William Walwyn, esq) and
his son and heir George Baynham to Henry Guldeford, kt, John Gage, kt,
William Kyngeston, kt, Antony Poyntz, kt, John Baker, gent, recorder of London,
Henry Browne, esq (son and heir of Matthew Browne, kt), John Guldefrod, esq (son
and heir of George Guldeford, esq), Nicholas Poyntz, esq (son and heir of AP),
and Edward Gage and James Gage (sons of JG)
Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
Moderator: MOD_nyhetsgrupper
-
John Higgins
Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d
Sir John Maclean covered both marriages of Sir Anthony Poyntz in his
"History and Genealogical Family of the Family of Poyntz", originally
published in 1886 and reprinted in 1983.
----- Original Message -----
From: <WJhonson@aol.com>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:49 PM
Subject: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
"History and Genealogical Family of the Family of Poyntz", originally
published in 1886 and reprinted in 1983.
----- Original Message -----
From: <WJhonson@aol.com>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:49 PM
Subject: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
On Leo's great website here
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 0&tree=LEO
we see Sir Anthony Poyntz with his wife Elizabeth Huddesfield
She d bef 12 Apr 1527
Now please flip your attention to
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 0&tree=LEO
where we see Joan Vaux, wife of Richard Guldeford (Guildford)
Richard died 6 sep 1506 in Jerusalem (see Dictionary of National
Biography,
"Guildford, Richard" online at http://www.ancestry.com)
Now I present primary documentation that these two persons, widow and
widower, married each other, bef 20 Feb 1522
Will Johnson
-------------------------------------------------------------------
East Sussex Record Office: Archive of the Gage family of Firle
[SAS/G21/1 -
SAS/G46/14]
Archive of Gage family of Firle
Catalogue Ref. SAS/G
Creator(s): Gage family of Firle, East Sussex
FAMILY SETTLEMENTS
FILE - Assignment of a lease - ref. SAS/G21/18 - date: 20 Feb 1522
[from Scope and Content] Anthony Poynes, kt, and his wife Joan, late the
wife
of Richard Guldeford, kt, deceased, to Master Thomas Larck, clerk, and
Henry
Guldeford, kt
FILE - Settlement - ref. SAS/G21/7 - date: 20 May 1528
[from Scope and Content] Christopher Baynham, kt (son and heir of Alice
Denys, late the wife of Thomas Baynham, kt and daughter of William Walwyn,
esq) and
his son and heir George Baynham to Henry Guldeford, kt, John Gage, kt,
William Kyngeston, kt, Antony Poyntz, kt, John Baker, gent, recorder of
London,
Henry Browne, esq (son and heir of Matthew Browne, kt), John Guldefrod,
esq (son
and heir of George Guldeford, esq), Nicholas Poyntz, esq (son and heir of
AP),
and Edward Gage and James Gage (sons of JG)
-
Leo van de Pas
Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d
Dear Will,
I have a few questions.
Ronny Bodine in his superb book on ancestors of Dorothea Poyntz gives
Sirf Anthony Poyntz, born ca.1480 died 1535. He married secondly by 1510
Elizabeth Huddesfield who died before 12 April 1527.
You say that Sir Anthony Poyntz married Joan Vaux before 20 February 1522.
To accomodate this, Elizabeth Huddesfield has to die before 20 February 1522
and Joan Vaux is the third wife (who was the first?).
You are probably aware that Sir Anthony Poyntz and Elizabeth Huddesfield
also are ancestors of Prince Charles? As well as of Tim Powys-Lybbe and Tony
Hoskins.
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
----- Original Message -----
From: <WJhonson@aol.com>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:49 PM
Subject: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
I have a few questions.
Ronny Bodine in his superb book on ancestors of Dorothea Poyntz gives
Sirf Anthony Poyntz, born ca.1480 died 1535. He married secondly by 1510
Elizabeth Huddesfield who died before 12 April 1527.
You say that Sir Anthony Poyntz married Joan Vaux before 20 February 1522.
To accomodate this, Elizabeth Huddesfield has to die before 20 February 1522
and Joan Vaux is the third wife (who was the first?).
You are probably aware that Sir Anthony Poyntz and Elizabeth Huddesfield
also are ancestors of Prince Charles? As well as of Tim Powys-Lybbe and Tony
Hoskins.
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
----- Original Message -----
From: <WJhonson@aol.com>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:49 PM
Subject: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
On Leo's great website here
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 0&tree=LEO
we see Sir Anthony Poyntz with his wife Elizabeth Huddesfield
She d bef 12 Apr 1527
Now please flip your attention to
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 0&tree=LEO
where we see Joan Vaux, wife of Richard Guldeford (Guildford)
Richard died 6 sep 1506 in Jerusalem (see Dictionary of National
Biography,
"Guildford, Richard" online at http://www.ancestry.com)
Now I present primary documentation that these two persons, widow and
widower, married each other, bef 20 Feb 1522
Will Johnson
-------------------------------------------------------------------
East Sussex Record Office: Archive of the Gage family of Firle
[SAS/G21/1 -
SAS/G46/14]
Archive of Gage family of Firle
Catalogue Ref. SAS/G
Creator(s): Gage family of Firle, East Sussex
FAMILY SETTLEMENTS
FILE - Assignment of a lease - ref. SAS/G21/18 - date: 20 Feb 1522
[from Scope and Content] Anthony Poynes, kt, and his wife Joan, late the
wife
of Richard Guldeford, kt, deceased, to Master Thomas Larck, clerk, and
Henry
Guldeford, kt
FILE - Settlement - ref. SAS/G21/7 - date: 20 May 1528
[from Scope and Content] Christopher Baynham, kt (son and heir of Alice
Denys, late the wife of Thomas Baynham, kt and daughter of William Walwyn,
esq) and
his son and heir George Baynham to Henry Guldeford, kt, John Gage, kt,
William Kyngeston, kt, Antony Poyntz, kt, John Baker, gent, recorder of
London,
Henry Browne, esq (son and heir of Matthew Browne, kt), John Guldefrod,
esq (son
and heir of George Guldeford, esq), Nicholas Poyntz, esq (son and heir of
AP),
and Edward Gage and James Gage (sons of JG)
-
John Higgins
Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d
Maclean says that Elizabeth Huddesfield was the 1st wife of Sir Anthony
Poyntz. Does Ronny Bodine's work give any support for saying that she was
his 2nd wife? (I gather from your note that he doesn't say who the first
wife was) I wonder if he mistakenly thought that Joan (Vaux) Guildeford was
the 1st wife.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leo van de Pas" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
Poyntz. Does Ronny Bodine's work give any support for saying that she was
his 2nd wife? (I gather from your note that he doesn't say who the first
wife was) I wonder if he mistakenly thought that Joan (Vaux) Guildeford was
the 1st wife.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leo van de Pas" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
Dear Will,
I have a few questions.
Ronny Bodine in his superb book on ancestors of Dorothea Poyntz gives
Sirf Anthony Poyntz, born ca.1480 died 1535. He married secondly by 1510
Elizabeth Huddesfield who died before 12 April 1527.
You say that Sir Anthony Poyntz married Joan Vaux before 20 February 1522.
To accomodate this, Elizabeth Huddesfield has to die before 20 February
1522
and Joan Vaux is the third wife (who was the first?).
You are probably aware that Sir Anthony Poyntz and Elizabeth Huddesfield
also are ancestors of Prince Charles? As well as of Tim Powys-Lybbe and
Tony
Hoskins.
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
----- Original Message -----
From: <WJhonson@aol.com
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:49 PM
Subject: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
On Leo's great website here
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 0&tree=LEO
we see Sir Anthony Poyntz with his wife Elizabeth Huddesfield
She d bef 12 Apr 1527
Now please flip your attention to
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 0&tree=LEO
where we see Joan Vaux, wife of Richard Guldeford (Guildford)
Richard died 6 sep 1506 in Jerusalem (see Dictionary of National
Biography,
"Guildford, Richard" online at http://www.ancestry.com)
Now I present primary documentation that these two persons, widow and
widower, married each other, bef 20 Feb 1522
Will Johnson
-------------------------------------------------------------------
East Sussex Record Office: Archive of the Gage family of Firle
[SAS/G21/1 -
SAS/G46/14]
Archive of Gage family of Firle
Catalogue Ref. SAS/G
Creator(s): Gage family of Firle, East Sussex
FAMILY SETTLEMENTS
FILE - Assignment of a lease - ref. SAS/G21/18 - date: 20 Feb 1522
[from Scope and Content] Anthony Poynes, kt, and his wife Joan, late the
wife
of Richard Guldeford, kt, deceased, to Master Thomas Larck, clerk, and
Henry
Guldeford, kt
FILE - Settlement - ref. SAS/G21/7 - date: 20 May 1528
[from Scope and Content] Christopher Baynham, kt (son and heir of Alice
Denys, late the wife of Thomas Baynham, kt and daughter of William
Walwyn,
esq) and
his son and heir George Baynham to Henry Guldeford, kt, John Gage, kt,
William Kyngeston, kt, Antony Poyntz, kt, John Baker, gent, recorder of
London,
Henry Browne, esq (son and heir of Matthew Browne, kt), John Guldefrod,
esq (son
and heir of George Guldeford, esq), Nicholas Poyntz, esq (son and heir
of
AP),
and Edward Gage and James Gage (sons of JG)
-
Leo van de Pas
Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d
No. Just Married 2ndly, by 1510 and he gives Elizabeth
Huddesfield/Huddersfield dying before 12 April 1527, their son was born "by
1510". The sources he quotes :
BLG18, 1:580 DNB, 16: 277-278 FP. 67-69, 95 LI 9:50,51
Does that help?
Leo
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Higgins" <jthiggins@sbcglobal.net>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
Huddesfield/Huddersfield dying before 12 April 1527, their son was born "by
1510". The sources he quotes :
BLG18, 1:580 DNB, 16: 277-278 FP. 67-69, 95 LI 9:50,51
Does that help?
Leo
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Higgins" <jthiggins@sbcglobal.net>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
Maclean says that Elizabeth Huddesfield was the 1st wife of Sir Anthony
Poyntz. Does Ronny Bodine's work give any support for saying that she was
his 2nd wife? (I gather from your note that he doesn't say who the first
wife was) I wonder if he mistakenly thought that Joan (Vaux) Guildeford
was
the 1st wife.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leo van de Pas" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
Dear Will,
I have a few questions.
Ronny Bodine in his superb book on ancestors of Dorothea Poyntz gives
Sirf Anthony Poyntz, born ca.1480 died 1535. He married secondly by 1510
Elizabeth Huddesfield who died before 12 April 1527.
You say that Sir Anthony Poyntz married Joan Vaux before 20 February
1522.
To accomodate this, Elizabeth Huddesfield has to die before 20 February
1522
and Joan Vaux is the third wife (who was the first?).
You are probably aware that Sir Anthony Poyntz and Elizabeth Huddesfield
also are ancestors of Prince Charles? As well as of Tim Powys-Lybbe and
Tony
Hoskins.
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
----- Original Message -----
From: <WJhonson@aol.com
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:49 PM
Subject: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
On Leo's great website here
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 0&tree=LEO
we see Sir Anthony Poyntz with his wife Elizabeth Huddesfield
She d bef 12 Apr 1527
Now please flip your attention to
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 0&tree=LEO
where we see Joan Vaux, wife of Richard Guldeford (Guildford)
Richard died 6 sep 1506 in Jerusalem (see Dictionary of National
Biography,
"Guildford, Richard" online at http://www.ancestry.com)
Now I present primary documentation that these two persons, widow and
widower, married each other, bef 20 Feb 1522
Will Johnson
-------------------------------------------------------------------
East Sussex Record Office: Archive of the Gage family of Firle
[SAS/G21/1 -
SAS/G46/14]
Archive of Gage family of Firle
Catalogue Ref. SAS/G
Creator(s): Gage family of Firle, East Sussex
FAMILY SETTLEMENTS
FILE - Assignment of a lease - ref. SAS/G21/18 - date: 20 Feb 1522
[from Scope and Content] Anthony Poynes, kt, and his wife Joan, late
the
wife
of Richard Guldeford, kt, deceased, to Master Thomas Larck, clerk, and
Henry
Guldeford, kt
FILE - Settlement - ref. SAS/G21/7 - date: 20 May 1528
[from Scope and Content] Christopher Baynham, kt (son and heir of Alice
Denys, late the wife of Thomas Baynham, kt and daughter of William
Walwyn,
esq) and
his son and heir George Baynham to Henry Guldeford, kt, John Gage, kt,
William Kyngeston, kt, Antony Poyntz, kt, John Baker, gent, recorder of
London,
Henry Browne, esq (son and heir of Matthew Browne, kt), John Guldefrod,
esq (son
and heir of George Guldeford, esq), Nicholas Poyntz, esq (son and heir
of
AP),
and Edward Gage and James Gage (sons of JG)
-
John Higgins
Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d
Well, two of these four sources say that Elizabeth was the first wife of Sir
Anthony Poyntz: BLG 18th ed., and FP (which is Maclean's work). I can't
immediately check DNB, and I don't know what LI is.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leo van de Pas" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
Anthony Poyntz: BLG 18th ed., and FP (which is Maclean's work). I can't
immediately check DNB, and I don't know what LI is.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leo van de Pas" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
No. Just Married 2ndly, by 1510 and he gives Elizabeth
Huddesfield/Huddersfield dying before 12 April 1527, their son was born
"by
1510". The sources he quotes :
BLG18, 1:580 DNB, 16: 277-278 FP. 67-69, 95 LI 9:50,51
Does that help?
Leo
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Higgins" <jthiggins@sbcglobal.net
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
Maclean says that Elizabeth Huddesfield was the 1st wife of Sir Anthony
Poyntz. Does Ronny Bodine's work give any support for saying that she
was
his 2nd wife? (I gather from your note that he doesn't say who the
first
wife was) I wonder if he mistakenly thought that Joan (Vaux) Guildeford
was
the 1st wife.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leo van de Pas" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d
1535
Dear Will,
I have a few questions.
Ronny Bodine in his superb book on ancestors of Dorothea Poyntz gives
Sirf Anthony Poyntz, born ca.1480 died 1535. He married secondly by
1510
Elizabeth Huddesfield who died before 12 April 1527.
You say that Sir Anthony Poyntz married Joan Vaux before 20 February
1522.
To accomodate this, Elizabeth Huddesfield has to die before 20 February
1522
and Joan Vaux is the third wife (who was the first?).
You are probably aware that Sir Anthony Poyntz and Elizabeth
Huddesfield
also are ancestors of Prince Charles? As well as of Tim Powys-Lybbe and
Tony
Hoskins.
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
----- Original Message -----
From: <WJhonson@aol.com
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:49 PM
Subject: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
On Leo's great website here
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 0&tree=LEO
we see Sir Anthony Poyntz with his wife Elizabeth Huddesfield
She d bef 12 Apr 1527
Now please flip your attention to
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 0&tree=LEO
where we see Joan Vaux, wife of Richard Guldeford (Guildford)
Richard died 6 sep 1506 in Jerusalem (see Dictionary of National
Biography,
"Guildford, Richard" online at http://www.ancestry.com)
Now I present primary documentation that these two persons, widow and
widower, married each other, bef 20 Feb 1522
Will Johnson
-------------------------------------------------------------------
East Sussex Record Office: Archive of the Gage family of Firle
[SAS/G21/1 -
SAS/G46/14]
Archive of Gage family of Firle
Catalogue Ref. SAS/G
Creator(s): Gage family of Firle, East Sussex
FAMILY SETTLEMENTS
FILE - Assignment of a lease - ref. SAS/G21/18 - date: 20 Feb 1522
[from Scope and Content] Anthony Poynes, kt, and his wife Joan, late
the
wife
of Richard Guldeford, kt, deceased, to Master Thomas Larck, clerk,
and
Henry
Guldeford, kt
FILE - Settlement - ref. SAS/G21/7 - date: 20 May 1528
[from Scope and Content] Christopher Baynham, kt (son and heir of
Alice
Denys, late the wife of Thomas Baynham, kt and daughter of William
Walwyn,
esq) and
his son and heir George Baynham to Henry Guldeford, kt, John Gage,
kt,
William Kyngeston, kt, Antony Poyntz, kt, John Baker, gent, recorder
of
London,
Henry Browne, esq (son and heir of Matthew Browne, kt), John
Guldefrod,
esq (son
and heir of George Guldeford, esq), Nicholas Poyntz, esq (son and
heir
of
AP),
and Edward Gage and James Gage (sons of JG)
-
John Higgins
Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d
FWIW, a small follow-up---
DNB 16:277-8 has this to say about Sir Anthony Poyntz and his marriages:
"He died in 1533, having married, first, Elizabeth, daughter of Sir William
Huddesfield; and, secondly, Joan, widow of Sir Richard Guilford [sic]."
So three of the four sources cited in Ronny Bodine's book for Sir Anthony
Poyntz don't support the conclusion reached in that work regarding his
marriages. I suspect he misread the pedigree in Maclean's work....
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Higgins" <jthiggins@sbcglobal.net>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
DNB 16:277-8 has this to say about Sir Anthony Poyntz and his marriages:
"He died in 1533, having married, first, Elizabeth, daughter of Sir William
Huddesfield; and, secondly, Joan, widow of Sir Richard Guilford [sic]."
So three of the four sources cited in Ronny Bodine's book for Sir Anthony
Poyntz don't support the conclusion reached in that work regarding his
marriages. I suspect he misread the pedigree in Maclean's work....
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Higgins" <jthiggins@sbcglobal.net>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
Well, two of these four sources say that Elizabeth was the first wife of
Sir
Anthony Poyntz: BLG 18th ed., and FP (which is Maclean's work). I can't
immediately check DNB, and I don't know what LI is.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leo van de Pas" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
No. Just Married 2ndly, by 1510 and he gives Elizabeth
Huddesfield/Huddersfield dying before 12 April 1527, their son was born
"by
1510". The sources he quotes :
BLG18, 1:580 DNB, 16: 277-278 FP. 67-69, 95 LI 9:50,51
Does that help?
Leo
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Higgins" <jthiggins@sbcglobal.net
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d
1535
Maclean says that Elizabeth Huddesfield was the 1st wife of Sir
Anthony
Poyntz. Does Ronny Bodine's work give any support for saying that she
was
his 2nd wife? (I gather from your note that he doesn't say who the
first
wife was) I wonder if he mistakenly thought that Joan (Vaux)
Guildeford
was
the 1st wife.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leo van de Pas" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d
1535
Dear Will,
I have a few questions.
Ronny Bodine in his superb book on ancestors of Dorothea Poyntz gives
Sirf Anthony Poyntz, born ca.1480 died 1535. He married secondly by
1510
Elizabeth Huddesfield who died before 12 April 1527.
You say that Sir Anthony Poyntz married Joan Vaux before 20 February
1522.
To accomodate this, Elizabeth Huddesfield has to die before 20
February
1522
and Joan Vaux is the third wife (who was the first?).
You are probably aware that Sir Anthony Poyntz and Elizabeth
Huddesfield
also are ancestors of Prince Charles? As well as of Tim Powys-Lybbe
and
Tony
Hoskins.
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
----- Original Message -----
From: <WJhonson@aol.com
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:49 PM
Subject: Another marriage for Sir Anthony Poyntz of Iron Acton d 1535
On Leo's great website here
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 0&tree=LEO
we see Sir Anthony Poyntz with his wife Elizabeth Huddesfield
She d bef 12 Apr 1527
Now please flip your attention to
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 0&tree=LEO
where we see Joan Vaux, wife of Richard Guldeford (Guildford)
Richard died 6 sep 1506 in Jerusalem (see Dictionary of National
Biography,
"Guildford, Richard" online at http://www.ancestry.com)
Now I present primary documentation that these two persons, widow
and
widower, married each other, bef 20 Feb 1522
Will Johnson
-------------------------------------------------------------------
East Sussex Record Office: Archive of the Gage family of Firle
[SAS/G21/1 -
SAS/G46/14]
Archive of Gage family of Firle
Catalogue Ref. SAS/G
Creator(s): Gage family of Firle, East Sussex
FAMILY SETTLEMENTS
FILE - Assignment of a lease - ref. SAS/G21/18 - date: 20 Feb 1522
[from Scope and Content] Anthony Poynes, kt, and his wife Joan,
late
the
wife
of Richard Guldeford, kt, deceased, to Master Thomas Larck, clerk,
and
Henry
Guldeford, kt
FILE - Settlement - ref. SAS/G21/7 - date: 20 May 1528
[from Scope and Content] Christopher Baynham, kt (son and heir of
Alice
Denys, late the wife of Thomas Baynham, kt and daughter of William
Walwyn,
esq) and
his son and heir George Baynham to Henry Guldeford, kt, John Gage,
kt,
William Kyngeston, kt, Antony Poyntz, kt, John Baker, gent,
recorder
of
London,
Henry Browne, esq (son and heir of Matthew Browne, kt), John
Guldefrod,
esq (son
and heir of George Guldeford, esq), Nicholas Poyntz, esq (son and
heir
of
AP),
and Edward Gage and James Gage (sons of JG)