Gerberga van Saksen

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Sandra Muys

Gerberga van Saksen

Legg inn av Sandra Muys » 04 des 2005 11:29:41

Hello,

I am trying to make my places in my genealogy database more complete. I
have a listing that Gerberga van Saksen is born about 913 in
Nordhausen, Germany. When I look up Nordhausen in Germany in my route
planning software I find that there are 3 different ones:
Nordhausen, Thuringa, Germany
Nordhausen, Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany
Nordhausen, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany.

A google search of Gerberga van Saksen does not help - every one seems
to just have Nordhausen, Germany listed.

Does any one know which area of Germany she was born in?

Thank you very much.

Sandra Muys

Gjest

Re: Gerberga van Saksen

Legg inn av Gjest » 04 des 2005 21:02:20

Sandra Muys schrieb:

Hello,

I am trying to make my places in my genealogy database more complete. I
have a listing that Gerberga van Saksen is born about 913 in
Nordhausen, Germany. When I look up Nordhausen in Germany in my route
planning software I find that there are 3 different ones:
Nordhausen, Thuringa, Germany
Nordhausen, Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany
Nordhausen, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany.

A google search of Gerberga van Saksen does not help - every one seems
to just have Nordhausen, Germany listed.

Does any one know which area of Germany she was born in?

I think you mean Sachsen (Saxony) rather than Saksen.

The Nordhausen you are looking for is that in Thuringia (sic, not
Thuringa) which is close to modern Saxony (Thuringia includes most of
the old Saxon duchies). It is between Sondershausen and Wernigerode,
in the Harz mountains, and is accordingly often called Nordhausen am
Harz.

Gjest

Re: Gerberga van Saksen

Legg inn av Gjest » 04 des 2005 21:36:02

In a message dated 12/4/2005 2:38:42 AM Pacific Standard Time,
toots@zeelandnet.nl writes:

Nordhausen, Thuringa, Germany


Personally I wouldn't say "Germany" as the place. It wasn't called Germany
at this time.
What I usually do is say something like
Nordhausen, Thuringia (now part of Germany)

to make it clear both the current geographic location
AND the likely way to find primary documentation

After all the primary documents are not likely to say "she came from
Germany" but rather something like "she is said to be of Nordhausen, and possibly
daughter of the Count of Thuringia" or something of that sort. (The above
description is FICTIONAL, for illustrative purposes only.)

You get the general idea.

People do this all the time in more modern US records, then they say "well
why can't i find the Tennessee records from 1750?" Well because it didn't
exist, that's why. Try North Carolina instead.

Will Johnson

CE Wood

Re: Gerberga van Saksen

Legg inn av CE Wood » 05 des 2005 03:05:02

The Geo Database provided by Legacy software lists 6 different
Nordhausens. Two of the ones assigned to Germany are Nordhausen in
Thüringen (N512100 E0205900), and Nordhausen in Sachsen (N502000
E0122100). I do not know what their sources are, but I opted for the
Nordhausen in Sachsen, since Gerberga was "von Sachsen".

CE Wood


Sandra Muys wrote:
Hello,

I am trying to make my places in my genealogy database more complete. I
have a listing that Gerberga van Saksen is born about 913 in
Nordhausen, Germany. When I look up Nordhausen in Germany in my route
planning software I find that there are 3 different ones:
Nordhausen, Thuringa, Germany
Nordhausen, Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany
Nordhausen, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany.

A google search of Gerberga van Saksen does not help - every one seems
to just have Nordhausen, Germany listed.

Does any one know which area of Germany she was born in?

Thank you very much.

Sandra Muys

Gjest

Re: Gerberga van Saksen

Legg inn av Gjest » 05 des 2005 07:09:52

CE Wood schrieb:

The Geo Database provided by Legacy software lists 6 different
Nordhausens. Two of the ones assigned to Germany are Nordhausen in
Thüringen (N512100 E0205900), and Nordhausen in Sachsen (N502000
E0122100). I do not know what their sources are, but I opted for the
Nordhausen in Sachsen, since Gerberga was "von Sachsen".

CE Wood

Nordhausen am Harz, which is now in Thuringia, is where Gerberga was
born; I visit Thuringia regularly, and was in Nordhausen last year.
See that town's website:

http://www.nordhausen.de/stadt_tourismu ... ichte.php4

This includes the statement "Hier bringt Heinrichs Frau Mathilde 913
ihre Tochter Gerberga und zwischen 919 und 922 einen Sohn zur Welt"

i.e. "Here in 913 Henry's wife Matilda brought her daughter Gerberga
into the world, and a son between 919 and 922."

A map may be found at the foot of the following site:

http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/THU/NDH/hist-ndh.html

Formerly an Imperial free city, it was annexed to Prussia in 1803, so
it is a jolly long time since it was considered part of Saxony.

MAR

CE Wood

Re: Gerberga van Saksen

Legg inn av CE Wood » 05 des 2005 20:42:22

Thanks so much! That's why this site is so marvelous!

CE Wood

mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:
CE Wood schrieb:

The Geo Database provided by Legacy software lists 6 different
Nordhausens. Two of the ones assigned to Germany are Nordhausen in
Thüringen (N512100 E0205900), and Nordhausen in Sachsen (N502000
E0122100). I do not know what their sources are, but I opted for the
Nordhausen in Sachsen, since Gerberga was "von Sachsen".

CE Wood

Nordhausen am Harz, which is now in Thuringia, is where Gerberga was
born; I visit Thuringia regularly, and was in Nordhausen last year.
See that town's website:

http://www.nordhausen.de/stadt_tourismu ... ichte.php4

This includes the statement "Hier bringt Heinrichs Frau Mathilde 913
ihre Tochter Gerberga und zwischen 919 und 922 einen Sohn zur Welt"

i.e. "Here in 913 Henry's wife Matilda brought her daughter Gerberga
into the world, and a son between 919 and 922."

A map may be found at the foot of the following site:

http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/THU/NDH/hist-ndh.html

Formerly an Imperial free city, it was annexed to Prussia in 1803, so
it is a jolly long time since it was considered part of Saxony.

MAR

Gjest

Re: Gerberga van Saksen

Legg inn av Gjest » 06 des 2005 15:45:29

CE Wood wrote:

Thanks so much! That's why this site is so marvelous!

CE Wood

You are very welcome. It is surprising how many people ask questions
here, receive detailed answers that occupy their respondents' time and
energy, yet don't bother with a simple 'thank you' - so it's nice to
see some positive feedback.

Regards

Michaael

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