counts of Toulouse & Agen

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mike

counts of Toulouse & Agen

Legg inn av mike » 24 nov 2005 22:17:20

I was looking at a book by Claire Taylor, Dualism In Aquitaine and the
Agenais 1000-1249, recently published by the Royal Historical Society,
which had this simplified tree:

William I of Toulouse
|
Berenger of Toulouse & Agen
|
Bernard II of Toulouse & Agen m. Dhuoda
|____________________________________
| |
William II Rogelinde m.
Vulgrin of Perigord, Angoleme & Agen
of Toulouse & Agen |
| William
of Perigord & Agen
ancestor of
|
Pons of Toulouse
|
William IV
Count of Toulouse
Count of Agen 1079

I've not seen this version before, and it seems to contradict many
postings in the archives.

Mike

Todd A. Farmerie

Re: counts of Toulouse & Agen

Legg inn av Todd A. Farmerie » 27 nov 2005 04:48:17

mike wrote:
I was looking at a book by Claire Taylor, Dualism In Aquitaine and the
Agenais 1000-1249, recently published by the Royal Historical Society,
which had this simplified tree:

William I of Toulouse
|
Berenger of Toulouse & Agen
|
Bernard II of Toulouse & Agen m. Dhuoda
|____________________________________
| |
William II Rogelinde m.
Vulgrin of Perigord, Angoleme & Agen
of Toulouse & Agen |
| William
of Perigord & Agen
ancestor of
|
Pons of Toulouse
|
William IV
Count of Toulouse
Count of Agen 1079

I've not seen this version before, and it seems to contradict many
postings in the archives.


It is always hard to reconstruct these things, but it looks like an
initial typo/editing error resulted in compounding mistakes. The
tip-off is in the first generations, that are well documented, but given
incorrectly here. What I think happened is that someone mistakenly
reported Bernard I accidentally as Berenger (note there is a Bernard II
with no I in the table). Then, when it came to placing Dhuoda, wife of
Bernard, she had to be placed as wife of Bernard II, since her true
husband, Bernard I had been errored out of existance, and the same with
the placement of her children. Pure sloppiness, but you never really
know if it is the problem of the author or the editor.

taf

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