Gwion ap Jonas, 2nd husband of Margaret ferch Madog

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Gwion ap Jonas, 2nd husband of Margaret ferch Madog

Legg inn av Gjest » 15 nov 2005 09:50:02

Monday, 14 November, 2005


Hello All,

Recently, Doug Richardson provided documentary evidence
concerning Wyone ap Ione, the second husband of Margaret ferch
Madog (the mother of Llywelyn Fawr, prince of Aberffraw and lord of
Snowdon) [1]. In addition to proving the second marriage, these
documents also proved that Margaret was the daughter of Madog ap
Maredudd, prince of Powys (d. 1160).

In an article by Dr. Frederick Suppe of Ball State University,
concerning Roger ap Goronwy of Powys, I noted that he was best
known as an adherent to King Henry II of England ca. 1155-1186,
together with his brother Jonas ap Goronwy. The eldest son of
Jonas was Gwion, concerning whose career Dr. Suppe wrote,

' Gwion, the son of Roger's brother Jonas, started receiving
annual revenues worth £7 from Wellington (which is adjacent to
Wrockwardine) in 1194, payments which continued until at least
1206. Gwion assisted his cousin Meurig in guarding the Denbigh
castle in 1196-7, receiving 20s. in compensation. ' [2]

' Sometime between 1205 and 1210 Gwion also witnessed two
charters by Llywelyn ab Iorwerth, one granting land in Ellesmere
to Haughmond Abbey and the second confirming an earlier and
similar grant made by Dafydd ab Owain Gwynedd. ' [3]

In addition to the connections readily drawn above, Dr. Suppe
also documented the connection of Gwion's father Jonas ap Goronwy,
and cousin Meurig ap Roger Powys, to Overton, part of which we have
seen charter evidence for gifts by 'Wyone ap Ione' to Combermere
priory in Doug's research [4].

Further, in addition to the name Gwion ap Jonas being identical
(latitude for pronunciation and clerical spelling) to 'Wyone ap
Ione', there is also the evidence of social rank. Gwion's marriage
to Margaret ferch Madog, Llywelyn Fawr's widowed mother, is not
exceptional: his first cousin was Meurig ap Roger Powys, who was
married to Llywelyn's cousin Gwenhwyfar ferch Dafydd - who also
happened to be a cousin of King John of England [see pedigree,
below].

We can readily identify Gwion ap Jonas as being identical to
'Wyone ap Ione'. I have not found evidence of any issue of the
marriage of Gwion ap Jonas and Margaret ferch Madog: any such
discovery may result from a detailed review of Bartrum's Welsh
pedigrees.

Cheers,

John *


NOTES (to post):

[1] Douglas Richardson, <Llywelyn ap Iorwerth's step-father,
Wion ap Ione>, SGM, 7 October 2005.

[2] Frederick Suppe, Roger of Powys, Henry II's Anglo-Welsh
Middleman," The Welsh History Review, Volume 21, Number 1,
1 June 2002, p. 18 [cites Pipe Roll 6 Ric I p. 140, Pipe
Roll 6 John p. 158; also Pipe Roll 8 Ric I p. 42]

[3] Ibid., pp. 19-20 [cites Rees, Haughmond Chartulary
pp. 137, No. 657 and 216, No. 1172]

[4] D. Richardson, as above.


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1 Rhys Sais ap Ednyfed
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Death: 1070[1]

of Chirk, Nanheudwy, Whittington, Oswestry, Maelor Isaf and
Ellesmere[2]

(said to have held same at the time of Domesday Book, 1086[2] - evidently
this was his son Tudur was the tenant[1])

"Rhys Sais = Efa f. Gruffudd Hir"[Bartrum IV:870,
Tudur Trefor 1][3]

cf. Suppe, pp. 2, [1]

Spouse: Efa[2]

Children: Tudur
Elidir (->1080)
Iddon
Generys
Angharad


1.1 Tudur ap Rhys Sais
----------------------------------------

of Nanheudwy

' Tudur, was probably the Tudor named in Domesday Book as holding
from the earl of Shrewsbury an unnamed border district, probably
Nanheudwy, the region between the rivers Dees and Ceiriog ' [Suppe
p. 3[1], cites Domesday Book f. 253c]

Children: Goronwy


1.1.1 Goronwy ap Tudur
----------------------------------------

cf. Suppe, pp. 2, [1]

Children: Roger (-ca1186)
Jonas


1.1.1.1 Roger ap Goronwy ' of Powys '
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Death: ca 1186[1]

of Whittington, co. Salop.

witness to a charter of William fitz Alan granting the advowson of
Wroxeter to Haughmond Abbey, 25 Jul 1155 [Suppe p. 3[1], cites
Cartulary of Haughmond Abbey p. 244, No.1370]

custodian of the castle of St. Briavels, co. Glocs., 1157-1164
also custodian of Overton and 'Dernio' castles, 1159/60

had grant of Whittington castle, 1170 [Suppe p. 14[1]]

cf. Suppe, "Roger of Powys, Henry II's Anglo-Welsh Middleman"[1]

Children: Meurig
Maredudd
Goronwy
Owain
Roger
Thomas


1.1.1.1.1 Meurig ap Roger
----------------------------------------

cf. Suppe p. 17[1]
Richardson p. 2[4]

Spouse: Gwenhwyfar ferch Dafydd
Father: Dafydd ap Owain, prince of Gwynedd (-1203)
Mother: Emma de Anjou, (illeg.) daughter of Geoffrey 'Plantagenet'


1.1.1.1.2 Owain ap Roger
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cf. Suppe p. 17[1]

Spouse: Angharad ferch Rhys
Death: bef Sep 1226[5]
Father: Rhys ap Gruffydd, prince of Deheubarth
"the Lord Rhys" (1132-1197)
Mother: NN


1.1.1.2 Jonas ap Goronwy
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of Llannerch Banna

received payment of 10s. 4d. in wages, 'presumably payment for some
soldiers', 1159/60 [Suppe p. 7[1], cites Pipe Roll 6 Hen II, p. 7]

received payment of 40s. from the sheriff of Worcestershire, and
100s. from the sheriff of Shropshire, for custody of one or more
locations, 1160/1 [Suppe p. 8[1], cites Pipe Roll 7 Hen II,
pp. 55, 39]

received £ 14 annually from Wrockwardine, co. Salop. together
with his brother Roger, from 1172 until his death (1174/5)
[Suppe p. 15[1], cites Pipe Roll 18 Hen II p. 110, Pipe Roll
19 Hen II, p. 107]

cf. Suppe, pp. 2, 12 et seq.[1]

Children: Gwion
Llywelyn
Dafydd
Gwilym
Ynyr


1.1.1.2.1 Gwion ap Jonas
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of his career, Suppe wrote:
' Gwion, the son of Roger's brother Jonas, started receiving annual
revenues worth £7 from Wellington (which is adjacent to
Wrockwardine) in 1194, payments which continued until at least
1206. Gwion assisted his cousin Meurig in guarding the Denbigh
castle in 1196-7, receiving 20s. in compensation. ' [Suppe
p. 18[1], cites Pipe Roll 6 Ric I p. 140, Pipe Roll 6 John
p. 158; also Pipe Roll 8 Ric I p. 42]

' Sometime between 1205 and 1210 Gwion also witnessed two charters
by Llywelyn ab Iorwerth, one granting land in Ellesmere to
Haughmond Abbey and the second confirming an earlier and similar
grant made by Dafydd ab Owain Gwynedd. ' [Suppe pp. 19-20[1],
cites Rees, Haughmond Chartulary pp. 137, No. 657 and 216,
No. 1172]

2nd husband of Margaret ferch Madog[1]

cf. Suppe, pp. 18-20[1]
VCH Shropshire, XI:215[6]

Spouse: Margaret ferch Madog, widow of Iorwerth Drwyndwn
Father: Madog ap Maredudd of Powys (-~1160)
Mother: NN


1. Frederick Suppe, "Roger of Powys, Henry II's Anglo-Welsh
Middleman," The Welsh History Review, Volume 21, Number 1,
1 June 2002, pp. 1-23, University of Wales Press,
URL
http://docserver.ingentaconnect.com/del ... &acs=32629,
75000325&expires=1131981296&checksum=CE2804C3A62039CD0A9AEA65261B4C5F&cookie=9
20203392
2. Pedigree of Wales, Descent from Rhodri Mawr, comp. by Robert
O'Connor
email roconnor@es.co.nz
3. Peter C. Bartrum, "Welsh Genealogies, AD 300 - 1400," University
of Wales Press, 1974, re: Dafydd Llwyd of Crewe, cites MS
Peniarth 135:118, and MS Peniarth 128:170a (Vol. IV p. 889,
Tudur Trefor 20).
4. Douglas Richardson, "Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial
and Medieval Families," Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing
Company, 2004.
5. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 - [microprint,
1982 (Alan Sutton) ], The Complete Peerage of England Scotland
Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
6. G. C. Baugh, ed., "A History of the County of Shropshire,"
Volume 11: Telford (1985), Oxford: published for the Institute
of Historical Research, Oxford Univ. Press, 1985, Volume
11: Telford (1985), pp. 215-21, online available, courtesy
British History Online, URL
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report ... mpid=18141


* John P. Ravilious

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