Annabel was she or wasn't she?

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Leo van de Pas

Annabel was she or wasn't she?

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 15 nov 2005 07:25:20

This problem has been dealt with several times but, as I have been approached about it again,
I wonder whether anyone can give a final answer.

George Gordon, 2nd Earl of Huntly, after having divorced his first wife Lady Elizabeth Dunbar, married about 10 March 1458 Annabella of Scotland and divorced her 24 July 1471. According to Cahiers de Saint Louis they had only one child Isabelle Gordon who married William Hay, 3rd Earl of Erroll.

According to Burke's Peerage 1938 page 1360 George and Annabel had many children, including Alexander the heir, and there were only three daughters by the third wife of George.

Burke's Peerage 1999 simply tells he married three times and HE had the following children without saying specifically who the mother was.

The Complete Peerage Volume VI page 677 Footnote F is non-committal.
The identity of his(Alexander, 3rd Earl of Huntly) mother is very doubtful. He sat in Parliament in 1485, and was one of the Lords of the Articles, which points to his having been son of the Princess Annabel, but in a charter of 21 February 1504/5 Elizabeth, Countess of Huntly, is called his mother, and, further, the divorce of Annabel, and the banns of Elizabeth Hay, were recorded 4 July 1492 at his request in the Consistorial Court of Aberdeen (Scots Peerage iv 531).

I don't grasp the meaning of the above. Could Elizabeth Hay as a remark of endearment have called him her son? Alexander having recorded the divorce and the banns, what does that say?
To me it seems not to have any bearing on who his mother was.

I know children married very early and often it was only a contract. George and Elizabeth Hay married after 18 August 1471 and Alexander was contracted to marry on 14 October 1474.
To be Elizabeth Hay's son he would be less than 3 years old and was he less than 13 when he sat in Parliament in 1485?

Can anyone give a ruling on this? CP XIV says nothing.

Many thanks.
Leo van de Pas

Doug McDonald

Re: Annabel was she or wasn't she?

Legg inn av Doug McDonald » 15 nov 2005 23:37:53

Leo van de Pas wrote:

This problem has been dealt with several times but, as I have been
approached about it again, I wonder whether anyone can give a final
answer.

George Gordon, 2nd Earl of Huntly, after having divorced his first
wife Lady Elizabeth Dunbar, married about 10 March 1458 Annabella of
Scotland and divorced her 24 July 1471. According to Cahiers de Saint
Louis they had only one child Isabelle Gordon who married William
Hay, 3rd Earl of Erroll.


This is very simple. If indeed Annabella had several children by
George Gordon, Elizabeth, wife of William Keith, was surely one of them
and therefore I am a descendant of James I, King of Scotland.

Therefore, by Murphy's Law, Annabella was not mother of Elizabeth.

Doug McDonald

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