Henry VIII descendants

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Ginny Wagner

Henry VIII descendants

Legg inn av Ginny Wagner » 30 sep 2005 23:35:02

re the list and reading emails ... I found it very
interesting that my response, for Ms. Perry to read du
Maurier; which, by the way, makes it quite obvious that
Francis Bacon was not an illegitimate child of the queen,
would be taken by so many to mean that I was implying that
du Maurier had written that there was an illegitimate child
of the queen, i.e., Francis Bacon.

Point in fact, Ms. du Maurier makes it abundantly clear that
Francis Bacon is the child of Nicholas Bacon and Ann Cooke
Bacon.

For anyone interested in Elizabethan England and the movers
and shakers therein, this book is a must.

From her acknowledgements:

"My grateful thanks to the Countess of Verulam for her
courtesy in receiving my son and myself at Gorhambury; to
Mrs. King for answering my many questions about the original
Tudor building; and to Monsieur Meras, chief archivist at
Montauban, for entertaining us, showing us the old city, and
producing the documents concerning Anthony Bacon. Above
all, my immense gratitude to Joan St. George Saunders and
her team of assistants at Writers' and Speakers' Research
for the work which they carried out for me over a period of
eighteen months, with a special thought for the late Mrs.
Pugh, who took over the particularly difficult job of
transcribing so many letters from Lady Bacon. Finally, I am
indebted to Sheila Bush for editing my manuscript with such
patience and perception. D. du M."

There are a number of photos and sketches from Gorhambury as
well as a picture of a miniature and a photo of Queen
Elizabeth I by Isaac Oliver, by gracious permission of Her
Majesty Queen Elizabeth II as well as many other maps and
engravings.

There is a very fine Bibliography although the text isn't
footnoted; however, it is a scholarly and well researched
book that happens to read beautifully.

Her Postscript:

"St. Olave's church, Hart Street, was bombed in 1941 and
almost destroyed. The coffin of Samuel Pepys, buried in a
vault in 1703, was discovered beneath the communion table in
the chancel. If there were others beside it, they were
unrecorded. The area is now totally sealed. The church
itself was rebuilt and restored, and looks as gracious today
as it did four centuries ago.

"When the present writer visited St. Olave's on October 6th
1973, the church was empty. It was very silent, very
peaceful. Then softly, from the organ in the gallery above,
an unseen musician, unaware of an intruder below, began to
play the sixtenth-century melody of "Greensleeves" -- that
well-loved air, sung by courtier and ocmmoner alike, known
to King Henry VIII, danced to by his daughter Queen
Elizabeth and surely strummed upon the virginals by Anthony
Bacon himself.

Just as suddenly as it began, the music ceased. The quest
that had taken the intruder to Montauban, Bordeaux,
Gorhambury, Redbourne, Twickenham, and through many a dusty
document, had ended too. The caged bird was at rest."

Respectfully,
Ginny Wagner

Tony Hoskins

Re: Henry VIII descendants

Legg inn av Tony Hoskins » 01 okt 2005 18:14:02

As I've said in re: Sir John Perrot, though the evidence is not
compelling, in my view there is enough there to merit more research.

Tony

ADRIANCHANNING@aol.com> 09/30/05 02:53AM

The new DNB is pretty adamant that John Perrott was not Henry's son,
but
then they may be wrong :-)

Regards,
Adrian

Leo wrote;

Dear Kirstie,
Don't forget John Perrott, he is a most likely son as well. I hope you
can
get hold of the Tony Hoskins' article, it convinced me. Give me a
little bit
of time and I will make a file with at least "some" of Henry VIII
descendants and they include the two Carey children.

One statement says : On 20 April 1535, John Hale, vicar of Isleworth,
stated

to the Council that he had seen the nine-year-old Henry Carey, the
king's
son. On 4 May 1535, just two weeks later, John Hale was executed at
Tyburn
'for denying the King's supremacy'.

Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

Tony Hoskins

Re: Henry VIII descendants

Legg inn av Tony Hoskins » 01 okt 2005 18:14:02

"interesting that his son Sir Thomas
marries a descendant of Henry VIII....."

Yes, and very interesting indeed was Elizabeth I's virulent reaction to
that clandestine marriage.

Tony

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