Reginald de Soothill and his descendants

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Reginald de Soothill and his descendants

Legg inn av Gjest » 30 sep 2005 06:41:02

Friday, 30 September, 2005


Hello All,

When I left off with the Soothill pedigree some time ago, the
earliest ancestor I had ascertained was John de Soothill (see 1.2
below). I have now been able to move this family 'back' another
generation, based upon the following record:

" 14. A.D. 1344. - Henry de Sothill, chivaler, claims against the
Prior of S. Oswald’s of Nostel 34 acres of land in Sothill,
in which the Prior has no entry save after the disseisin
which John de Warenna, late Earl of Surrey, unjustly made
against Reginald de Sothill, great-grandfather of Henry,
whose heir he is; Reginald was seised as of fee and right
temp. Edw. I., and from him the right descended to John as
son and heir, and from John to another John as son and heir,
and from him to Henry, who now claims, as son and heir.
The Prior says that John de Warenne did not disseise
Reginald de Sothill, and as to this puts himself on the
country.
The jury say that John de Warrenne did unjustly disseise
Reginald, as Henry says.
Therefore let Henry recover seisin; and the Prior is in
mercy. " [1]


Interestingly, I believe Reginald de Soothill is the first
individual in the Soothill pedigree in HSP (Yorkshire Pedigrees).
Nice to find confirmation of the accuracy of that pedigree (or at
least that portion, anyway).

A detailed pedigree follows, but only to the generation of Sir
Henry de Soothill, father of Sir Gerard de Soothill (of Redbourne,
Lincs.) & c.

Cheers,

John


NOTES to post:

[1] YAS XVII:155-6, No. 14, cites De Banco, Mich. 18 Edw. III.
m. 436 d.[2]]

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1 Reginald de Soothill
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of Soothill, co. Yorks.

quitclaim by his son William, undated:
' Quitclaim by William son of Reginald de Sothil in favour of John his
brother in respect of land in Ovendene (Ovenden, Yk) ' - A2A, Nottinghamshire
Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205],
DD/SR/26/19[1]
______________________________

' Reginald de Sothill, great-grandfather of Henry ', identified in a suit of
his great-grandson Sir Henry de Sothill, 1344 [YAS XVII:155-6, No. 14, cites
De Banco, Mich. 18 Edw. III. m. 436 d.[2]]

Children: William
John


1.1 William de Soothill
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of Ovenden, co. Yorks.

quitclaim, undated:
' Quitclaim by William son of Reginald de Sothil in favour of John his
brother in respect of land in Ovendene (Ovenden, Yk) ' - A2A, Nottinghamshire
Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205],
DD/SR/26/19[1]


1.2 John de Soothill
----------------------------------------

of Soothill, co. Yorks.

quitclaim by his brother William, undated:
' Quitclaim by William son of Reginald de Sothil in favour of John his
brother in respect of land in Ovendene (Ovenden, Yk) ' - A2A, Nottinghamshire
Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205],
DD/SR/26/19[1]

grant dated 1238:
' Demise by John de Sothil to Henry son of [?] Samuel de Ructunstal for 20
years of half an acre of land in Ructunstal (Rawtonstall, Yk) in return for
12d and an annual rent of 4d ' - A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of
Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/26/25[1]

Bond dated 1242:
' Bond by William son of Henry de Rutonest' in favour of his lord John de
Sothill' (?Soothill, Yk) and lady A, John's wife, under-taking not to acquire
land, pasture or other interests in John's fee beyond that of which he was first
enfeoffed without the consent of his lady A or that of his lord John and his
friends, under pain of surrendering them ' - A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives:
Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/26/26[1]

record of a grant by his son John, dated St Martin's Day, 1276 [12 Nov 1276]:
' Demise for 12 years of one fourth part of an assart by John son of John
de Sotil to Henry son of Adam de [?Mo]yggebey ' - A2A, Nottinghamshire
Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205],
DD/SR/27/1/7a[1]
____________________

' John as son and heir [of Reginald]', identified in a suit of his grandson
Sir Henry de Sothill, 1344 [YAS XVII:155-6, No. 14, cites De Banco, Mich. 18
Edw. III. m. 436 d.[2]]

Children: Sir John (-<1311)


1.2.1 Sir John de Soothill
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Death: bef 1311[3]

of Soothill, co. Yorks.

record of a grant dated St Martin's Day, 1276 [12 Nov 1276]:
' Demise for 12 years of one fourth part of an assart by John son of John
de Sotil to Henry son of Adam de [?Mo]yggebey ' - A2A, Nottinghamshire
Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205],
DD/SR/27/1/7a[1]

' John as son and heir [of John]', identified as son of John, son of Reginald
de Soothill in a suit of his son Sir Henry de Sothill, 1344 [YAS XVII:155-6,
No. 14, cites De Banco, Mich. 18 Edw. III. m. 436 d.[2]]

' He demised his land in
Moulbreck for 10 years in return for an annual rent of
5 marks, 15 Edw. I (1286/7). Witness to an undated
deed (est. 1260-87) relating to Osberton, co. Notts.
together with Sir William de Furnival and others.
Deceased before 3 Edw II (1309/10), at which time his
younger son Henry had succeeded his eldest son and heir
William.'[3]

quitclaim, undated :
' Quitclaim by Adam son of Richard de
Illyngworth' (Illingworth, Yk) in favour of John de Sothill'
knight of his right to a fourth part of a bovate of land etc in
Illingworth' - A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford:
Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/26/20[1]

[2] Bond dated 1242 :
' Bond by William son of Henry de
Rutonest' in favour of his lord John de Sothill' (?Soothill, Yk)
and lady A, John's wife, under-taking not to acquire land,
pasture or other interests in John's fee beyond that of which he
was first enfeoffed without the consent of his lady A or
that of his lord John and his friends, under pain of
surrendering them. ' - A2A,
Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and
Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/26/26[1]

[3] agreement dated 15 Edw I [1286-1287] :
' Demise by Sir John de Sothill' to
William de Moulebreck' and Adam de Writtintona for 10 years of
all Sir John's land in Moulbreck' in return for an annual rent
of 5 marks' - A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford:
Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/26/28[1][1]

' Sir John de Sotehill ', witness (together with Sir William FitzWilliam
FitzThomas, Sir Hugh de Eland, William de fleming and others) to grant by Thomas
de Horbyri, brother and heir of John of Horbyri to Sir Nicholas de Wortelay
of the manor of Shetelingthon [Shitlington], ca. 1295-1300 [A2A, Sheffield
Archives: Wharncliffe Muniments [Wh M/D/01 - Wh M/P/13], Wh M/D/627[1]

Children: William (-<1311)
Sir Henry (-ca1352)


1.2.1.1 William de Soothill
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Death: bef 1311, d.s.p.[3]

of Soothill, co. Yorks.

'of Soothill, Morley, Batley,
Heckmondwike, Ardsley, and Chidsall, co. Yorks., eldest
son and heir. He evidently succeeded his father. He m.
Joan _______, who survived him. He died in or before
1309/10, at which time his widow Joan was granted dower in
the manors of Soothill, co. Yorks. & c. by his brother and
successor, Henry.'[3]


1.2.1.2 Sir Henry de Soothill
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Death: ca 1352[3]

knt., of Soothill, co. Yorks.

'of Soothill, co. Yorks. & c., younger
son and heir to his brother William. As noted above,
he granted dower in 1309/10 to Joan, widow of William,

‘ of the manor of Sothill' etc, with all William's lands etc
in Morlay, Batelay, Heckmundwick', Erdeslawe and
Chiddeshill' (Soothill, Yk Morley, Yk Batley, Yk
Heckmondwike, Yk Ardsley, Yk Chidsall, Yk) as dower
Henry to have two thirds and Joan one third of the profits
from thinning the woods’ [5]

Sir Henry entered into an agreement in 1324/5 with Sir
Richard de Moseley for the marriage of his younger son John
to Helen/Elaine de Moseley [6], and made several
Grants (as well as being the grantee of others) in the same
year concerning lands in Rawtonstall, Ovenden and else-
where. [7] He obtained lands in Stansfield, co. Yorks. by a
grant in 1343, which evidently were a gift or inheritance of
his younger son John (see below) [8].
He entered into a series of transactions in 25 Edw. III
(1351/2) evidently intended to provide for effective
employment of his landed resources, and to ensure the
continuity tenure of his lands and rights by his
heir, the younger Sir Henry. A direct grant of lands to his
son Henry was made in or about 1349 [9], and a further grant
of the manor of Soothill to chaplains evidences his intent
to have the caput of his holdings pass following his death
to his heir [10].
He probably died ca. 1352, as his son Sir Henry was seeking
seisin of his lands around that time (see below).'[3]

grant by Henry de Sothill dated Sunday before Michaelmas, 1334 :
' Grant by Henry son of Sir John de Sothill, knight, to Thomas de Thornhill
and Margaret his wife, of land in Ovenden, viz. 12a land at Brouneshirste and
2a meadow at Mixenden.
Witnesses, Richard de Crumwelbotham, Henry de Crumwelbothum, Matthew de
Bosco, Richard del Den and others. ' - A2A, West Yorkshire Archive Service,
Yorkshire Archaeological Society: Clarke Thornhill of Fixby Collection, Clarke
Thornhill Papers: Miscellanea, DD12/II/30/37[1]

grant dated 3 Edw II [1309-10] :
' Grant by Henry son of Sir John de
Sothill', brother and heir of William de Sothill', to Joan,
widow of William, of the manor of Sothill' etc, with all
William's lands etc in Morlay, Batelay, Heckmundwick', Erdeslawe
and Chiddeshill' (Soothill, Yk Morley, Yk Batley, Yk
Heckmondwike, Yk Ardsley, Yk Chidsall, Yk) as dower Henry to
have two thirds and Joan one third of the profits from thinning
the woods: [other conditions are stated]' - A2A, Nottinghamshire
Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and
Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/26/37[1]

release dated 5 Edw II [1311-12] :
' Release by John de Burton' de Kymeslay of all actions, bills and
demands against Henry de Sothill', Richard de Sothill', William de Sothill' and
Matthew de Bosco arising from their trespass on other act committed against him '
- A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers
[DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/26/40[1]

' On 12 Nov. 1318 he received pard. as an adherent of Thos of Lancaster, and
his arms appear on the roll of the battle of Boroughbridge. About the time of
that battle he was imprisoned in Nottingham cas. and his lands confiscated
but on 1 Apr. was ord to be released on finding mainp. He petitioned the Kg in
parl. stating that he had not taken part with the rebels; neither at the parl.
of Jul 1321, where the Despensers were expelled; nor at the siege of
Tickhill; in Wales; at Burton; or at Boroughbridge;... By 2 Jun. he had found sureties
and his estates were ord to be restored to him.' [YAS XCI:97-98[4]]

Agreement dated 18 Edw II [1324-5] :
' Agreement between Sir Henry de
Sothill' knight and Sir Richard de Moseley parson of the church
of Friseton, for the marriage of Henry's son John with Richard's
sister Helen, and for Henry to keep them in his household until
they reach years of discretion, to enfeof them of the manor of
Laxinton' (Laxton, Yk) in tail, and to levy a fine in the King's
Court by means of which he would take a life interest in his
property, which would pass after his death to John and Helen in
tail' - A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds
and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/26/52[1]

further,

Grant dated 18 Edw II [1324-5]:
' Grant by John de Deneby to Sir Henry
de Sotehill' knight of the life interest Henry had granted him
in his manor at Laxton', Yorks. Attached is a grant by Henry de
Sothill' to John his son and Elain his son's wife of his manor
of Laxton etc and to Matthew del Wode of his manor of Belton
Lincs. etc.' - A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford:
Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/26/54[1]

' 12. A.D. 1343. - The Prior of S. Oswald’s of Nostell v. John de
Warenne, Earl of Surrey, that he should come to warrant 34
acres of land in Sothill, which Henry de Sothill, chivaler,
claims as his right. ' [YAS XVII:155, No. 12, cites De Banco,
Mich. 17 Edw. III. m. 456 d.[2]]

14. A.D. 1344. - Henry de Sothill, chivaler, claims against the
Prior of S. Oswald’s of Nostel 34 acres of land in Sothill,
in which the Prior has no entry save after the disseisin
which John de Warenna, late Earl of Surrey, unjustly made
against Reginald de Sothill, great-grandfather of Henry,
whose heir he is; Reginald was seised as of fee and right
temp. Edw. I., and from him the right descended to John as
son and heir, and from John to another John as son and heir,
and from him to Henry, who now claims, as son and heir.
The Prior says that John de Warenne did not disseise
Reginald de Sothill, and as to this puts himself on the
country.
The jury say that John de Warrenne did unjustly disseise
Reginald, as Henry says.
Therefore let Henry recover seisin; and the Prior is in
mercy. " [YAS XVII:155-6, Nos. 12, 14, cites De Banco,
Mich. 18 Edw. III. m. 436 d.[2]]

Creation dates: 25 Ed III [1351-52]:
' Receipt by John de Normanvill' knight from Sir Henry of Soothill Yorks. of
20 marks rent. - A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and
Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/27/4/3[1]

'knight of the shire', co. Yorks., parliament of April 1343 [YAS XCI:97-98[4]]

Bond dated 25 Ed III [1351-52] :
' Bond by Sir Henry de Suthill' knight in favour of John de Normanvill
knight in £40 sterling for the performance of certain covenants ' - A2A,
Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 -
DD/SR/205], DD/SR/27/4/4a[1]


Children: Sir Henry (-<1367)
John
Isabel


1.2.1.2.1 Sir Henry de Soothill
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Death: bef 1367[5],[6]

of Soothill Hall, co. Yorks.

' Sr Henery Suthill of Suthill Hall in Com York Knt. ' [pedigree of
Constable, Vis. Nottingham, p. 40[7]]

Sir Henry de Soothill

' had a grant from his father of lands
in Soothill, Rawtonstall, Derton, Bolton and Laxton in
1349, and also of ‘an annual rent of 40 marks from the
manor of Soothill’. He then made a grant of his manor of
Laxton to Sir John Geffray and Sir John de Croxton
(‘chaplains’) in 1350 [9]. He succeeded his father
possibly in or before 1352, when he is stated to have
appointed an attorney ‘attorney for livery of seisin in
his lands tenements and manors of Sutill', Benton' and
Routonstal' ‘ [11]. He entered into an indenture with
William de Fyncheden 32 Edw. III (1358/9) concerning
rents from 80 acres in Soothill granted to the vicar of
the church of Batley, co. Yorks., which was probably the
same land granted by his father in 1351/2 to William de
Skargill [12].
He made a grant in 1362/3 for his life only of his manor
of Rawtonstall, co. Yorks. to his younger son James for
an annual rent of 10 ½ marks. [13] He soon thereafter
(1363) granted his manor of Soothill together with
Chidsall, Heckmondwike and other property to his eldest
son Sir Henry in return for a payment of rent for his
remaining life. [14] In connection with this grant,
he appointed Richard de Pillay as his attorney to deliver
the manor of Soothill [15]. He married Joan _________,
identified in Visitation pedigree of Soothill as Joan
FitzWilliam [the assignment of this surname, and
placement of Joan in the FitzWilliam family of
Sprotborough, is unsubstantiated outside the Visitation
record at present].
He probably died soon thereafter, but certainly no later
than 1366 [16]. '[6]

' Sir Henry de Sothill ', witness to a deed dated 1353:
' In a deed dated 1353, whereby John son of Thomas de Lascy, give to John de
Bollyng, Elias de Burton and John de Crossland, chaplain, his manor of
Cromwelbothom, occur as witnesses, Sir Brian de Thornhill, Sir Henry de Sothill,
knights, William de Mirfield, John Sayvell de Eland, Robert de Bollyng, William de
Leventhorp, William de Stansfeld, and Hugh de Coppelay. ' [Stansfield, p.
118[8]]

attornment dated 32 Ed III [1358-59]
' Appointment of attorneys by William son of Sir Warin de Skargill' knight
in connection with an indenture by which Sir Henry de Sotehill' knight granted
40 acres of land etc and a place called le Sowehey etc to William in tail
with certain remainders' - A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford:
Deeds and
Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/27/4/4b[1]

grant dated 1363 :
' Grant by Henry de Sothill, knight, to Henry his son, knight, of all his
manor of Soothill etc and also of a field [campus] called Gepfeld' Cowehaye and
le Rydying' in return for annual rent for the remainder of the grantors life
(Soothill, Yk Chidsell, Yk Heckmondwyke, Yk Scholecroft, Yk) ' - A2A,
Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 -
DD/SR/205], DD/SR/27/2/6a[1]

stated elsewhere to have fl. 1314 - 1351[9]

Spouse: NN

Children: Sir Henry (-<1376)
Sir Gerard (-1410)
James (->1364)


1.2.1.2.2 John de Soothill
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of Laxton, co. Yorks.

agreement dated 18 Edw II [1324-5] :
' Agreement between Sir Henry de
Sothill' knight and Sir Richard de Moseley parson of the church
of Friseton, for the marriage of Henry's son John with Richard's
sister Helen, and for Henry to keep them in his household until
they reach years of discretion, to enfeof them of the manor of
Laxinton' (Laxton, Yk) in tail, and to levy a fine in the King's
Court by means of which he would take a life interest in his
property, which would pass after his death to John and Helen in
tail' - A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds
and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/26/52[1]

grant dated 18 Edw II [1324-5]:
' Grant by John de Deneby to Sir Henry
de Sotehill' knight of the life interest Henry had granted him
in his manor at Laxton', Yorks. Attached is a grant by Henry de
Sothill' to John his son and Elain his son's wife of his manor
of Laxton etc and to Matthew del Wode of his manor of Belton
Lincs. etc.' - A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of
Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205],
DD/SR/26/54[1]

Grant, undated:
' Grant by John de Sothyl son of Sir Henry de Sothyl, knight, to Robert de
Mar, chaplain of Laxton' Yorks., and his assigns of 3 acres of his arable land
in the fields of Laxton', etc, in return for an annual rent of 3s 0d ' - A2A,
Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13
- DD/SR/205], DD/SR/26/12[1]

Spouse: Ellen de Moseley
Marr: aft 1324[1]


1.2.1.2.3 Isabel de Soothill
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Agreement for her marriage, dated [?18] Edw II [1324-5]:
' Agreement between Sir John de Bosevil' knight and Sir Henry de Soothil'
for the marriage of John's son William to Isabel daughter of Henry (Mickilfield,
Yk Newhall, Yk)' - - A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds
and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/26/51[1]

Spouse: William de Boseville
Marr: ca 1325[1]


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co. Lincs. & C - Pt I," Nov 6, 2002, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com,
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family.

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