Roger Maynwaring (1589-1653), Lord Bishop of St David's ~ sc

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Roger Maynwaring (1589-1653), Lord Bishop of St David's ~ sc

Legg inn av Gjest » 29 sep 2005 21:49:02

This man is usually stated [as it is in the old edition DNB 12, 989-990] to
have been born in Church Stretton, Shropshire, but I have been unable to find
any evidence to support this. This claim seems to have originated in John
Walker's The Sufferings of the Clergy During the Great Rebellion (1712), but a
previous biography in Lloyd's Memoires (1677), which seems to have been the
basis for much of Walker's entry, makes no such claim and merely puts forward
that Maynwaring's family was "as noble as any in Cheshire." He did have a
younger brother named Edward Maynwaring who lived in the parish of Lydbury,
Shropshire, as shown by a PRO Exchequer Deposition [E134, 1657, MICH 7].
I would like to propose that perhaps he might actually be a son of Randall
Maynwaring (d. 1612), Knt., of Over Peover, Cheshire, by his wife Margaret
Fitton.
Roger was a clerk at All Souls' College, Oxford, before receiving his B.A.
there in 1607/8, his M.A. in 1611, B.D. and D.D. in 1625. Almost every
Maynwaring of his generation attended Brasenose College, Oxford, with the exception
of this Roger and Edmund Maynwaring, Gent. This latter gentleman received
his M.A. from All Souls' College in 1602, his B.C.L. in 1605, and his D.C.L.
in 1610, and he was also a known son of Randall Maynwaring of Over Peover.
Edmund went on to become a member of the king's council, and Roger was a
personal chaplain to the king.
Roger's epitaph on his tomb in the chapel at Christ College in Brecon,
Brecknockshire, indicates a Cheshire origin as well. It states directly after his
name "illustri inter Cestrenses familia oriundi." Islitt in "Episcopal
Memorials at Christ College" on pp. 57-62 of Brycheiniog 22 stated that
Maynwaring was born in the "village of Peover Superior in the County of Cheshire." So
there does seem to be a strong basis for the above claim that he was a scion
of the Over Peover Maynwarings. Randall Maynwaring (d. 1612) is known to
have had a younger son named Edward, which fits with the above mentioned
deposition showing that Roger had a brother named Edward as well. The pedigree of
"Mainwaring, of Peover" in the 1613 Cheshire Visitation is much flawed. In
fact the editors of the Harleian Society Publication edition [Vol. LIX],
George Armytage and Paul Rylands, themselves added to the pedigree showing that
the above mentioned Randall had sons named Edmond and John [which fact is
proven by other sources], and changed the son listed as Anthony to Arthur. So I
think that Roger's absence from that list does not necessarily preclude him
from fitting in there.

Roger Maynwaring (1589-1653) was the father of four known children:

1. Thomas Maynwaring, Gent., of Llandovery, Carmarthenshire, who married
Elizabeth Prichard, granddaughter of the Welsh poet and clergyman, Rhys Prichard
(1579-1644) of Llandovery.

2. Elizabeth (Maynwaring) Stevens

3. Sarah Maynwaring (d. 19 Jun. 1664), wife of Henry Melling, Prebend of
Llandaff Cathedral Church. They are both entombed at the entrance to the
Bishops' Cloister at the Hereford Cathedral.

4. Mary Maynwaring (ca. 1616-1663), who married at St Giles-in-the-Field,
Middlesex, on 11 May 1635 to Robert Brooke (1602-1655). They both died at
Brooke Place Manor in Calvert County, Maryland

Dolly Ziegler

Re: Roger Maynwaring (1589-1653), Lord Bishop of St David's

Legg inn av Dolly Ziegler » 30 sep 2005 05:16:03

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 ToddWhitesides@aol.com wrote:

This man is usually stated [as it is in the old edition DNB 12, 989-990]
to have been born in Church Stretton, Shropshire, but I have been unable
to find any evidence to support this. This claim seems to have
originated in John Walker's The Sufferings of the Clergy During the
Great Rebellion (1712), but a previous biography in Lloyd's Memoires
(1677), which seems to have been the basis for much of Walker's entry,
makes no such claim and merely puts forward that Maynwaring's family was
"as noble as any in Cheshire." He did have a younger brother named
Edward Maynwaring who lived in the parish of Lydbury, Shropshire, as
shown by a PRO Exchequer Deposition [E134, 1657, MICH 7]. I would like
to propose that perhaps he might actually be a son of Randall Maynwaring
(d. 1612), Knt., of Over Peover, Cheshire, by his wife Margaret Fitton.

Hello, Todd. This may be useful, or perhaps only muddy the waters. It does
indicate there were several christenings of boys with that name in a
somewhat broader time frame.

How firmly fixed is the 1589 birth year?

Out of curiosity, I checked the International Genealogical Index at
http://www.familysearch.org for Roger Maynwaring b. 1589, +/- 10 years. I
noted ONLY controlled-extraction entries, which have a good degree of
reliability -- NOT the patron submissions.

Four males, all Rodger Manwaring or variations, are recorded as christened
in that time frame:
16 Sep 1579, Nantwich, Cheshire, son of Little John
3 Oct 1587, Nantwich, Cheshire, son of Hugh
30 Nov 1587, Nantwich, Cheshire, son of Rodger
30 Sep 1598, Wrockwardine, Shrops, son of Roger

I didn't check for a "younger brother" Edward, which might be useful.

Cheers, Dolly in Maryland

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