Does anyone know if HARDWICK or HARDAGE is mentioned in the Domesday Book?
Someone told me HARDWICK did not exsit before 1720. I am posting this to
ask the experts.
Le
HARDWICKS or HARDAGES
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Leo van de Pas
Re: HARDWICKS or HARDAGES
Dear Le,
Can I ask a horrid question or two? What is Hardwick or Hardage, and in
which county is it supposed to be? We have had Bess of Hardwick and Hardwick
Hall in the times of Queen Elizabeth I.
I have a very nice book on Domesday, but all is sorted on county, there is
no overal index. I will try to find it and will let you know.
Leo
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From: "Le Bateman" <LeBateman@att.net>
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Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: HARDWICKS or HARDAGES
Can I ask a horrid question or two? What is Hardwick or Hardage, and in
which county is it supposed to be? We have had Bess of Hardwick and Hardwick
Hall in the times of Queen Elizabeth I.
I have a very nice book on Domesday, but all is sorted on county, there is
no overal index. I will try to find it and will let you know.
Leo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Le Bateman" <LeBateman@att.net>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: HARDWICKS or HARDAGES
Does anyone know if HARDWICK or HARDAGE is mentioned in the Domesday Book?
Someone told me HARDWICK did not exsit before 1720. I am posting this to
ask the experts.
Le
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Leo van de Pas
Re: HARDWICKS or HARDAGES
There you have it. Buckinghamshire :
Hardwick - Harduic(h) Aelmer from Count of Morftain; William from Miles
Crispin; Thurstan FitzRolf. On a green ; 17th century manor house.
This manor house seems to have existed before 1720, AND Hardwick is
mentioned in Domesday book.
Hope this helps?
Leo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Le Bateman" <LeBateman@att.net>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: HARDWICKS or HARDAGES
Hardwick - Harduic(h) Aelmer from Count of Morftain; William from Miles
Crispin; Thurstan FitzRolf. On a green ; 17th century manor house.
This manor house seems to have existed before 1720, AND Hardwick is
mentioned in Domesday book.
Hope this helps?
Leo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Le Bateman" <LeBateman@att.net>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: HARDWICKS or HARDAGES
Does anyone know if HARDWICK or HARDAGE is mentioned in the Domesday Book?
Someone told me HARDWICK did not exsit before 1720. I am posting this to
ask the experts.
Le
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Gjest
Re: HARDWICKS or HARDAGES
I have Hardwicks in my lineage and we visited Hardwick Hall in Derbyshire
several years ago. Among the literature I picked up there about this particular
Hardwick Hall was included:
Hardwick does not appear in the Domesday Book, but with other townships it
formed the manor of Steinesbi, which was granted to Rogerius Pictuviensis,
(Roger of Poictou), King John transferred it, in 1203, to Andrew de Beauchamp; and
it passed in 1258, to William de Steynesby, who held it of John le Savage, by
the annual surrender of three pounds of cinnamon, and one of pepper. By the
Quo Warranto Roll it appears, that John Steynesby, his great grandson, died
possessed of it in 1330. The family of De Hardwick were established here soon
afterwards, and possessed it for six generations. Elizabeth, the third
daughter, and (after her brother's death) co-heiress of John Hardwick, Esq.,
brought this estate to her second husband, Sir William Cavendish....
This Elizabeth Hardwick was Bess of Hardwick born in 1520 who married Sir
William Cavendish as her second husband. The Old Hall of Hardwick ruins still
stand next to the elaborate Hardwick Hall that Cavendish built for Bess, built
between 1591 and 1597. It is open to the public.
Barbara Good
several years ago. Among the literature I picked up there about this particular
Hardwick Hall was included:
Hardwick does not appear in the Domesday Book, but with other townships it
formed the manor of Steinesbi, which was granted to Rogerius Pictuviensis,
(Roger of Poictou), King John transferred it, in 1203, to Andrew de Beauchamp; and
it passed in 1258, to William de Steynesby, who held it of John le Savage, by
the annual surrender of three pounds of cinnamon, and one of pepper. By the
Quo Warranto Roll it appears, that John Steynesby, his great grandson, died
possessed of it in 1330. The family of De Hardwick were established here soon
afterwards, and possessed it for six generations. Elizabeth, the third
daughter, and (after her brother's death) co-heiress of John Hardwick, Esq.,
brought this estate to her second husband, Sir William Cavendish....
This Elizabeth Hardwick was Bess of Hardwick born in 1520 who married Sir
William Cavendish as her second husband. The Old Hall of Hardwick ruins still
stand next to the elaborate Hardwick Hall that Cavendish built for Bess, built
between 1591 and 1597. It is open to the public.
Barbara Good
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Gjest
Re: HARDWICKS or HARDAGES
In a message dated 9/19/05 10:18:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, BWGood@aol.com
writes:
<< This Elizabeth Hardwick was Bess of Hardwick born in 1520 who married Sir
William Cavendish as her second husband. The Old Hall of Hardwick ruins
still
stand next to the elaborate Hardwick Hall that Cavendish built for Bess,
built
between 1591 and 1597. It is open to the public.
Barbara Good >>
Unless you mean her son Henry, there is something amiss here.
Bess' husband Sir William Cavendish is buried 25 Oct 1557 at Derby Cathedral,
Derbyshire
So he could not have build a Hall between 1591 and 1597
Bess' last husband George Talbot, 6th Earl of Shrewsbury d 18 Nov 1590
Will Johnson
writes:
<< This Elizabeth Hardwick was Bess of Hardwick born in 1520 who married Sir
William Cavendish as her second husband. The Old Hall of Hardwick ruins
still
stand next to the elaborate Hardwick Hall that Cavendish built for Bess,
built
between 1591 and 1597. It is open to the public.
Barbara Good >>
Unless you mean her son Henry, there is something amiss here.
Bess' husband Sir William Cavendish is buried 25 Oct 1557 at Derby Cathedral,
Derbyshire
So he could not have build a Hall between 1591 and 1597
Bess' last husband George Talbot, 6th Earl of Shrewsbury d 18 Nov 1590
Will Johnson
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Gjest
Re: HARDWICKS or HARDAGES
In a message dated 9/19/05 4:55:17 PM, WJhonson@aol.com writes:
Talbot using the money she had inherited from her four marriages. It was built
during period of 1591-97. She had moved back to the Old Hardwick Hall in 1584
and renovated it during her separation from 4th husband George Talbot.
Interesting life she led.
Cavendish bought the Chatsworth estate and built a new house there which she
inherited on his death.
Barbara
Unless you mean her son Henry, there is something amiss here.
Bess' husband Sir William Cavendish is buried 25 Oct 1557 at Derby
Cathedral,
Derbyshire
So he could not have build a Hall between 1591 and 1597
Bess' last husband George Talbot, 6th Earl of Shrewsbury d 18 Nov 1590
You are correct. Bess built the "new" Hardwick Hall after the death of
Talbot using the money she had inherited from her four marriages. It was built
during period of 1591-97. She had moved back to the Old Hardwick Hall in 1584
and renovated it during her separation from 4th husband George Talbot.
Interesting life she led.
Cavendish bought the Chatsworth estate and built a new house there which she
inherited on his death.
Barbara