C.P. Addition: Further evidence of John Botetourt's parentag

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C.P. Addition: Further evidence of John Botetourt's parentag

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson royala » 31 aug 2005 21:24:01

Dear Newsgroup ~

In 1998 the noted author, F.N. Craig, published a brilliant article
entitled "The Parentage of John Botetourt" which was published in The
American Genealogist, 63 (1988) 145-153. In his article, Mr. Craig
identified Sir John Botetourt, 1st Lord Botetourt (died 1324), as the
son of Guy Botetourt, Knt., of Upton, Ellingham, and Kerebrook,
Norfolk, by his wife, Ada. I have not restudied Mr. Craig's article,
but I believe he based his identification of Sir John Botetourt's
parentage on the passage of lands from Sir Guy Botetourt to Sir John
Botetourt, among them the manors of Upton, Ellingham, and Kerebrook,
Norfolk.

In the intervening time, I posted here on the newsgroup further
evidence which confirmed Mr. Craig's identification (see copy of my
earlier post below). I found one record in which Sir John Botetourt is
stated to have had a brother, Robert, and another record in which
Robert Botetourt, a priest, is called a son of Guy Botetourt. I also
showed that Sir John Botetourt named a daughter, Ada, presumably in
honor of his mother.

Recently I found still more evidence to confirm Mr. Craig's
identification. The Proceedings of the Society of Antiquaries, 2nd
ser. 4 (1869): 200-201 has an interesting article by C.S. Perceval, in
which Mr. Perceval discusses a deed dated 1323 issued by Master Roger
Boteturte, son of Sir Guy Boteturte (described in the deed as 'nobilis
vir' [i.e., nobleman]).

Mr. Perceval adds the following statement: "Of Roger Boteturte and his
brother, Robert, who, as appears by another deed relating to this
property, had been jointly enfeoffed with him by their father, I find
no particulars."

So, once again we find a reference to Robert Botetourt, and Mr.
Perceval shows that he was the brother of Master Roger Botetourt, son
of Sir Guy Botetourt.

Given that John Botetourt had a brother, Robert, who was the son of Sir
Guy Botetourt, and given that Robert Botetourt had a brother, Roger,
who was a son of Sir Guy Botetourt, I believe that, together with the
passage of the three manors, these records provide conclusive evidence
that Sir John, Robert, and Roger Botetourt were all sons of Sir Guy
Botetourt.

Lastly, I might note that Master Roger Botetourt is called nobleman in
his deed. This suggests to me that the Botetourt family probably has
something important in their ancestry which has not yet been detected.

Comment are invited.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

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From: royalances...@msn.com (Douglas Richardson) - Find messages by
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Date: 20 Oct 2002 15:47:31 -0700

Dear Newsgroup ~

Someone wrote me this week that they were surprised to learn that John
Botetourt, Knt., lst Lord Botetourt (died 1324), was the son of Guy
Botetourt, Knt., of Upton, Ellingham, and Kerebrook, Norfolk, rather
than a bastard son of King Edward I as they previously thought was the
case. In replying back to the person, I realized I had additional
evidence in my files to support John Botetourt's correct parentage.

In the book, Records of the Wardrobe and Household, 1286-1289 (1986),
by B.F. Byerly, reference is made on pg. 258 to Robert brother of John
Botetourt. In Calendar of Entries in the Papal Registers: Letters 2
(1895): 15, reference is made in 1306 to Robert son of Guy Botetourt,
a priest. I presume the same Robert Botetourt is involved in both
records. If correct, taken together, these two records would indicate
that John and Robert Botetourt were sons of Guy Botetourt.

Beyond that, I've noted in an earlier post that my research indicates
that John Botetourt, Knt., lst Lord Botetourt, had a hitherto
unnoticed daughter, Ada, who married John de St. Philibert, Knt., of
Eaton Hastings, co. Berks. The name Ada presumably derives from John
Botetourt's mother, Ada, wife of Guy Botetourt. Several immigrants
descend from Ada Botetourt, wife of John de St. Philibert.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

E-mail: royalances...@msn.com

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