Fw: Fw: What to do with unknown places ?

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Leo van de Pas

Fw: Fw: What to do with unknown places ?

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 27 aug 2005 06:26:02

Dear Denis,

In my own computer program (not my website) I have the ability to place all
biographies of ancestors of one person together. They are placed in order of
the year of birth.

In other words, I _must_ have a year of birth, even if I don't. What I was
able to organise was that I would enter a year of birth (guess work of
course) together with a "flag".
What this did was all would work as though that year was the correct year,
but the year was not shown anywhere. Would you be able to do that? That
could/would solve your problem?

Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia



----- Original Message -----
From: "Denis Beauregard" <no@nospam.com.invalid>
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Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: What to do with unknown places ?


On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 03:35:58 +0000 (UTC), jthiggins@sbcglobal.net
("John Higgins") wrote in soc.genealogy.medieval:

You say that "My data structure and validation process are such that I
must
always have a date" and " I won't change my validation process". I'm not
sure I fully understand what is meant here. Does every person, or every
event, require a date, or just some cases?

A part of my validation process:


I have the couple A married to B. A is the son of C married to D.
A must be married at least 16 years after his parents (12 years for
a daughter). Otherwise, I study that case closer. I check that
children are born after the marriage of parents. When the parents
are not married, I use the date of birth of the child they had
as a basis for a virtual year.

At this time and for a while, all my medieval data set is made of
linked couples, i.e. lines to someone living later. So, I must
always have that 16 or 12 years gap between the marriage of parents
and that of children.

My process is good when there is data to support it, but with
medieval years, it is common to have no date of wedding.


Denis

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Denis Beauregard

Re: Fw: Fw: What to do with unknown places ?

Legg inn av Denis Beauregard » 27 aug 2005 18:10:53

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 04:24:16 +0000 (UTC), leovdpas@netspeed.com.au
("Leo van de Pas") wrote in soc.genealogy.medieval:

Dear Denis,

In my own computer program (not my website) I have the ability to place all
biographies of ancestors of one person together. They are placed in order of
the year of birth.

In other words, I _must_ have a year of birth, even if I don't. What I was
able to organise was that I would enter a year of birth (guess work of
course) together with a "flag".
What this did was all would work as though that year was the correct year,
but the year was not shown anywhere. Would you be able to do that? That
could/would solve your problem?

I have a full control on the software because I write it completely.
But I don't like to change it too often when this means to add or
move a column in the data file (my data files are in Excel, which is
limited to 65,536 lines).

For marriages, I can use this method:

about date : from a source other than me, reliable or not (and if not
reliable, the guess must be understandable and not any junk).

est date: date I estimated myself. I can use it for my validation
process and remove it from the page display. Fortunately, I put
a "noarchive" flag in this set of pages so that google should not
cache them.

I checked what I have in my pre-1785 file (which has my medieval data
but also a lot of marriage approximations because it is roughly the
time of marriages of most Quebec French migrants in my database). In
my other databases, I could probably eliminate most of about dates by
finding the actual marriage date.

I explored my datafiles.

I would have to check about 700 dates before 1600 or 500 before 1500
if I presume dates after 1600 are based on more reliable data
(usually, the birth of the first child).

So, I will begin to check all those dates I have. I hope to have
completed this before my next release.


Denis

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0 Denis Beauregard - Les Français d'Amérique
/\/ http://www.francogene.com/genealogie-quebec/
|\ French in North America before 1711
/ | http://www.francogene.com/quebec-genealogy/
oo oo Mon association de généalogie: http://www.sgcf.com

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