Jane Dalison/Dalyson et al

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Jane Dalison/Dalyson et al

Legg inn av markhagelin2005@yahoo.com » 15 aug 2005 09:28:53

Looking for more info on Jane Dalison/Dalyson.

born about 1523 Cransley, Northumberland, England
died about 1551 Sawbridgeworth, Hertford, England

married 1st John Leventhorpe of Shingey Hall, Hertfordshire, England
2 sons, Edward Leventhorpe & Thomas Leventhorpe

married 2nd Alexander St. John of Thurley, England
1 son Henry St. John married Jane Neale.


Her father George Dalyson was I believe a cadet branch of Dalison of
Laughton.

There is supposed to have been a shield with Leventhorpe impaling
Dalison quartering Puisset. [If I remember correctly]. The mark of
cadency indicated that George Dalison was a 3rd son.



George's wife was supposed to be Ann Puisset???. She may have been
married more than once and the manor of Clothall may have been
involved.


Unfortunately when I cam back from Denver, I was unable to take my
genelogical research with me.

I remember the Dalison pedigrees being in one of the volumns of:


Miscellanea genealogica et heraldica.
London : Hamilton, Adams, and Co., 1868-1938.

Denver Public Library has: 1-3,5-10 1868-1938 GEA


The research I had been working on suggested that
George Dalison was a 3rd son of a William Dalison of Laughton. It
could have been a Thomas Dalison.

I had 1st son William, 2nd son Thomas, 3rd son George.


I know that the Miscellanea genealogica et heraldica not only had
Dalison pedigrees, but also legal suits dating back into the
1200's-1300's.


There is a relationship between Oliver St John and Oliver Cromwell.
Oliver St John's 1st cousin [son of his mother's brother Raphael Neale]
John Henry Neale married Elizabeth Cromwell, who I believe was Oliver
Cromwell's daughter.



The early writings of Dalison/Dalyson shhow a variation of D'Alencon
also spelled D'Alenson.

I suspect I tie to the Talvas family, but I have been unable to prove
it.

The Visitation of Huntingdonshire in conjunction to the wills of Henry
St John and Oliver St. John and others "clarify" mistakes made in later
versions of Burke and in the pedigree of Elizabeth St. John Whiting
published in the New England Historical and Genealogical Recorder.



Mark Hagelin

Gjest

Re: Jane Dalison/Dalyson et al

Legg inn av Gjest » 15 aug 2005 19:06:52

The name Dalison is so rare that I can't imagine she isn't related to
the Maud Dalison who married Charles Morton, patriarch of the line of
Mortons of Bawtry, Yorkshire, about 1503. I have a reference to the
family tree in my notes somewhere, I'll get back to you on that.

Mark

Re: Jane Dalison/Dalyson et al

Legg inn av Mark » 15 aug 2005 21:16:20

I have Maud's parents as William Dalison born 1456 Lincolnshire, England
married Anne Wastneys born about 1460 Headon, Nottinghamshire, England
died after 1547.

I have the Wasney's line traced.

I know William is some how related to George Dalison as are the Dalisons
of Laughton, but I don't have any further info.

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Re: Jane Dalison/Dalyson et al

Legg inn av Gjest » 16 aug 2005 22:16:15

Reading today in the Visitation of Kent 1663-68 I stumbled on a Dalison
tree there. Are these people related? There were three oldest-son
Maximillians in the course of four generations.

In the Visitations of Essex, I stumbled on an Elizabeth Brockett who
married a Mr. Dalisonne. That was the Brockett tree in the 1558
Visitation at p.30. At p.510 (1634 Visitation) Sir Roger Dallison
married Elizabeth Tuthill of the Tuthills of Norfolk.

I have no idea whether these southern Dalisons are related to the
northern family.

Tony Ingham

Re: Jane Dalison/Dalyson et al

Legg inn av Tony Ingham » 17 aug 2005 03:49:02

G'day Mark,

I can tell you this :

She married THOMAS Leventhorpe, esquire, (abt 1495-7 Oct 1527) of
Shingle Hall Sawbridgworth.

In her will of 28 Dec 1501, Beatrice Cornborough bequeathed ' to my
trusty and well beloved friend John Leventhorp esquire a standing cup
with a cover parcel' gilt.'
He was named as one of her executors and proved her will at Lambeth
on 17 May 1502.

note : John his [Thomas'] son, who was sheriff of Hertfordshire in
1509, died in 1511 when Shingle Hall and Mathams descended to his son
Thomas. [under age] (Chanc. Inq. p.m. (Ser. 2) xxvii, XI & XII.)

Their sons were :
Edward Leventhorpe, esquire. He died 22 Dec 1551.
Thomas Leventhorpe, esquire, of Albury Hall Hertfordshire. He married
Dorothy Seymour, Dorothy Barlee (of Albury Hall) and . . . . Chamber.
He died 8 Jun 1588.

......................................

Notes on the monuments of Great St. Mary's, Sawbridgeworth.
Publisher/Date: [196-?]
Description: 34 leaves : ill. ; 36 cm.

Page 13.
Memorial No. 11.
Brass of Thomas Leventhorp (d.1527) and his wife Joan. in the S. aisle
The figure of Thomas was still in position in the early 19th century,
but has been lost since. The drawing on page 14 is taken from a rubbing
of the brass now in the library of the Society of Antiquaries of
London. Thomas wore a suit of armour of the 'Maxmilian' period
(1500-1530) beneath an heraldic tabard. His bare head, long-locked,
rested on a helmet complete with wreath, crest and mantling ; his
broad-toed sabatons rested on the body of his dog. The tabard was
short, revealing the mail skirt and single-plated tassets beneath. It
bore the arms of Leventhorp of Hertfordshire quartering an unidentified
coat of a crowned lion rampant [within a bordure, possibly from the Grey
family (temp. Edward III. - temp. Henry VI.)].
Joan also displays heraldry in her dress. She wears a pedimental
head-dress with three lappets at the front, a tight-sleeved dress with
fur cuffs, a slack girdle with a pomader hanging from it, and an
heraldic mantle. This bears her paternal arms of Dallison.

Page 14.
The drawing shows the appearance of the two figures before the loss
of their enamel :




Two out of the four original shields remain :
i. Leventhorp of Hertfordshire quartering the same rampant lion as on
the tabard ;
ii. Leventhorpe of Hertfordshire impaling Dallison (now missing) ;
iii. unrecorded ;
iv. Dallison. (From the rubbing - Three crescents, a canton ermine.)

Hope this is of interest to you,

Tony Ingham
Maryborough
AUSTRALIA


markhagelin2005@yahoo.com wrote:

Looking for more info on Jane Dalison/Dalyson.

born about 1523 Cransley, Northumberland, England
died about 1551 Sawbridgeworth, Hertford, England

married 1st John Leventhorpe of Shingey Hall, Hertfordshire, England
2 sons, Edward Leventhorpe & Thomas Leventhorpe

married 2nd Alexander St. John of Thurley, England
1 son Henry St. John married Jane Neale.


Her father George Dalyson was I believe a cadet branch of Dalison of
Laughton.

There is supposed to have been a shield with Leventhorpe impaling
Dalison quartering Puisset. [If I remember correctly]. The mark of
cadency indicated that George Dalison was a 3rd son.



George's wife was supposed to be Ann Puisset???. She may have been
married more than once and the manor of Clothall may have been
involved.


Unfortunately when I cam back from Denver, I was unable to take my
genelogical research with me.

I remember the Dalison pedigrees being in one of the volumns of:


Miscellanea genealogica et heraldica.
London : Hamilton, Adams, and Co., 1868-1938.

Denver Public Library has: 1-3,5-10 1868-1938 GEA


The research I had been working on suggested that
George Dalison was a 3rd son of a William Dalison of Laughton. It
could have been a Thomas Dalison.

I had 1st son William, 2nd son Thomas, 3rd son George.


I know that the Miscellanea genealogica et heraldica not only had
Dalison pedigrees, but also legal suits dating back into the
1200's-1300's.


There is a relationship between Oliver St John and Oliver Cromwell.
Oliver St John's 1st cousin [son of his mother's brother Raphael Neale]
John Henry Neale married Elizabeth Cromwell, who I believe was Oliver
Cromwell's daughter.



The early writings of Dalison/Dalyson shhow a variation of D'Alencon
also spelled D'Alenson.

I suspect I tie to the Talvas family, but I have been unable to prove
it.

The Visitation of Huntingdonshire in conjunction to the wills of Henry
St John and Oliver St. John and others "clarify" mistakes made in later
versions of Burke and in the pedigree of Elizabeth St. John Whiting
published in the New England Historical and Genealogical Recorder.



Mark Hagelin




Mark

Re: Jane Dalison/Dalyson et al

Legg inn av Mark » 17 aug 2005 04:23:34

"Anonymous User" wrote:
Reading today in the Visitation of Kent 1663-68 I stumbled on a Dalison
tree there. Are these people related? There were three oldest-son
Maximillians in the course of four generations.

In the Visitations of Essex, I stumbled on an Elizabeth Brockett who
married a Mr. Dalisonne. That was the Brockett tree in the 1558
Visitation at p.30. At p.510 (1634 Visitation) Sir Roger Dallison
married Elizabeth Tuthill of the Tuthills of Norfolk.

I have no idea whether these southern Dalisons are related to the
northern family.



They are related. If you have a copy you could send, that would be
great. I have been able to download a number of viistations.



Many are available online at:

http://www.uk-genealogy.org.uk/visitations/index.html



Maximillian is related. The Dalison family, as far as I can tell
started in Laughton, Lincolnshire, England.


They went into Kent and Essex. One Maximillian married a Pawlina
Sands/Sonds and is on page 109 of the Visitation of Kent for 1619.



There is a John Dalison born about 1305 Laghton [Laughton] Lincolnshire.
This John was supposed to have a son William born around 1350 [or
earlier] and married a Nicola De Vavasour daughter os Sir John Vavasour
of Spaulding.


I am surprized that more research has not been done since Jane Dalison's
grandson was the Right Honorable Oliver St. John whose daughter
Elizabeth St.John married Rev Samuel Whiting and have numerous
descendents within the USA, including myself.


I know some of the info is availabe at the Denver Public Library within
its volumes of:

Miscellanea genealogica et heraldica.
London : Hamilton, Adams, and Co., 1868-1938.
Volumes 1-3,5-10


=========================

Blanchard and Dalison


http://www.blanshard.org/eright.htm

The Dalison Connection

In the Domesday Book, for Lincolnshire, we are told that Blancard
(forename not given), who is described as 'Roger of Poitou's man', was
granted land in Laughton, Audleby, and Nettleton.

After the Domesday Book, the next reference we have in Lincolnshire is
a Sixle Priory Charter of 1177, in which Richard Blaunchard of Nettleton
and his wife, Agnes, give land to the Priory. From this point forward
there are many Blanchard/Blaunchard references in the Laughton and
Nettleton areas of Lincolnshire..

The Blanchard family of Laughton, Audleby, Nettleton, and Clixby were
very prosperous, judging by the amount of land they were able to donate
to various new Abbeys, Monasteries, Convents and Priories in
Lincolnshire, (see Deeds and Charters in the publications of the
Lincolnshire Record Society).

However, before 1280, William Blaunchard of Laughton died, the last in
the male line of the owners of the main estates in Lincolnshire. His
sister and heir, Matilda (sometimes referred to as Maud) widow of John
de Allazun, was then wife of Ralph de Carrum.

"John de Allazun, or Dallison, her son, succeeded to Laughton, Nettleton
and Clixby, and was the ancestor of that family greatly advanced by this
match", ('Notes on the Visitation of Lincolnshire').

In these notes, the author speculates that the arms of the Dallinsons
were originally those of the Blanchards, Gules 3 crescents or. These
arms can still be seen in Laughton church on the sarcophagus of William
Dallinson, and on a funeral hatchment there. This is interesting, as
several Blanchard families in France used the 3 crescents on their Coats
of Arms (see the French Heraldry section). If any document signed and
sealed by a Blanchard, prior to 1280, bears 3 crescents on the seal,
then this hypothesis could well be proven.












Mark

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Re: Jane Dalison/Dalyson et al

Legg inn av Mark » 18 aug 2005 08:25:23

I thought that I had it correct regarding the 1st name of Jane Dalison's
1st husband.

According to the The Visitation of Hertfordshire, 1572 and 1634, in
Appendix II pgs 149-151 on Leventhorpe of Shingle Hall and Albery, Jane
Dalison married JOHN Leventhorpe.

http://www.uk-genealogy.org.uk/england/ ... ns/index.h
tml

It starts with John Leventhorpe who married [Mary] dau of [William]
Clovell of Hanfield


It proceeds to John Leventhorpe of Shingle Hall and High Shreeve who
married Jane Dalison. [It mentions Jane's 2nd husband Alexander St.
John of Thirley (Thurley) Bedfordshire]

Children:

1)Edward married Elizabeth daughter of Henry Burley of Albery
a)Edward
b)Gabriel
2)Elizabeth married George Browne of Weldhall
3)Anne married William Bartlett
4)Maudlin married ________ Torrell of Torrell's Hall
5)Dorothy married Thomas Newce of Haddam
6)Thomas of Albery
married 1st ________ dau of Sir Thomas Seymer widow of Clement Smyth
a)Jane
b)Margrett
c)Catherin
d)John
e)Edward
f)Rafe [Ralph]
married 2nd ________ eldest dau of William Barley of Albery
g)Thomas ob sp
h)Anne
i)Helen
j)Elizabeth
k)Dorothy

The pedigree goes into more detail.




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