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Leo van de Pas

Fw: Newsgroup impersonality

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 15 aug 2005 02:42:01

Again with apologies, but do I read in between the lines that Hal S regards
his "contributions" so memorable that people "should" remember them? I think
not, I have to prick that bubble. The message I replied to seemed obnoxious
to me and I responded. And so I will assume that his previous
"contributions" were obnoxious as well.

Again, an e-mail address "right on the newsgroup message" does not have to
be the one from the person signing the message. Otherwise, why sign?

Best wishes
Leo van de Pas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hal S." <h.sanders@comcast.net>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: Newsgroup impersonality


""Leo van de Pas"" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
news:026501c5a12b$186d0230$0300a8c0@Toshiba...
With apologies, but do you really think I can be bothered studying your
e-mails?

-------------------------------------

Leo: who said anything about email? You have my address right on the
newsgroup message. Just look a few lines down; you should be able to
figure it out.

Hal S.

--------------------------------------

I look at the signature, that is what counts, who says you are not using
your mother's, your wife's or your son's computer? Which means that the
signature and the e-mail address displayed may not apply to the same
person. And I hope you appreciate these messages are about the attacks on
Peter Stewart, not you.
With best wishes
Leo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hal S." <h.sanders@comcast.net
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Newsgroup impersonality


Leo: As I told you in answer to your email, you are really dense. What
do you mean "Hal who?" I sign all my postings "Hal S.", and even you
can read my email address in my postings, which begins "H.Sanders." Put
them together and what do you get? Does that sound like "Pen name?
Pseudonym? Someone in hiding?" (sic) Even you should be able to figure
that out. You have really demonstrated in your recent screeds a
pronounced inability to comprehend.

Hal S.


""Leo van de Pas"" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
news:017701c5a0b3$c66d9e30$0300a8c0@Toshiba...
Hal who? Pen name? Pseudonym? Someone in hiding?

Peter Stewart _only_ contributes as Peter Stewart, and whether that
name is on his birth certificate is no-ones business.

What I find cowardly is to attack a person who is away and cannot
defend himself.

Also cowardly is when people are being asked pertinent questions about
their own statements and they refuse to give an answer and use as
excuse there "need" to know whether the reply is directed at Tom, Dick
or Harry, and whether Tom is Dick and not Harry. Name tags are not
important substance is.

Richardson proclaiming we are here to make friends is the first one to
offend.
Humour the questioner by supplying answers and _show_ you have nothing
to hide, no unqualifications to cover up. Own up to what you can do and
what you do know, then others are very kind and will help to fill the
gaps.

Richardson wants genealogically filled messages, but he is the first to
start sniping and continue flames which have nothing to do with
genealogy.

----- Original Message -----
From: <royalancestry@msn.com
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: Newsgroup impersonality


Hal S. wrote:

I agree; it's pretty gutless to fire away with insults and then hide
behind
a phony name.

Hal S.

Yes, Hal, I agree. It's very gutless. No one likes a coward.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net










Hal S.

Re: Newsgroup impersonality

Legg inn av Hal S. » 15 aug 2005 02:50:01

Leo: Go ahead and "prick" and "assume" all you want, but you still don't
have a clue as to what you are talking about. If you can't remember what was
in a thread you'd be better off to either look it up or forego your urge to
post. Now, I'm done with you, so fly away you pesky little gnat.

Hal S.


""Leo van de Pas"" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
news:027f01c5a131$b0df70b0$0300a8c0@Toshiba...
Again with apologies, but do I read in between the lines that Hal S
regards his "contributions" so memorable that people "should" remember
them? I think not, I have to prick that bubble. The message I replied to
seemed obnoxious to me and I responded. And so I will assume that his
previous "contributions" were obnoxious as well.

Again, an e-mail address "right on the newsgroup message" does not have to
be the one from the person signing the message. Otherwise, why sign?

Best wishes
Leo van de Pas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hal S." <h.sanders@comcast.net
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: Newsgroup impersonality



""Leo van de Pas"" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
news:026501c5a12b$186d0230$0300a8c0@Toshiba...
With apologies, but do you really think I can be bothered studying your
e-mails?

-------------------------------------

Leo: who said anything about email? You have my address right on the
newsgroup message. Just look a few lines down; you should be able to
figure it out.

Hal S.

--------------------------------------

I look at the signature, that is what counts, who says you are not using
your mother's, your wife's or your son's computer? Which means that the
signature and the e-mail address displayed may not apply to the same
person. And I hope you appreciate these messages are about the attacks
on Peter Stewart, not you.
With best wishes
Leo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hal S." <h.sanders@comcast.net
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Newsgroup impersonality


Leo: As I told you in answer to your email, you are really dense. What
do you mean "Hal who?" I sign all my postings "Hal S.", and even you
can read my email address in my postings, which begins "H.Sanders."
Put them together and what do you get? Does that sound like "Pen name?
Pseudonym? Someone in hiding?" (sic) Even you should be able to figure
that out. You have really demonstrated in your recent screeds a
pronounced inability to comprehend.

Hal S.


""Leo van de Pas"" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
news:017701c5a0b3$c66d9e30$0300a8c0@Toshiba...
Hal who? Pen name? Pseudonym? Someone in hiding?

Peter Stewart _only_ contributes as Peter Stewart, and whether that
name is on his birth certificate is no-ones business.

What I find cowardly is to attack a person who is away and cannot
defend himself.

Also cowardly is when people are being asked pertinent questions about
their own statements and they refuse to give an answer and use as
excuse there "need" to know whether the reply is directed at Tom, Dick
or Harry, and whether Tom is Dick and not Harry. Name tags are not
important substance is.

Richardson proclaiming we are here to make friends is the first one to
offend.
Humour the questioner by supplying answers and _show_ you have nothing
to hide, no unqualifications to cover up. Own up to what you can do
and what you do know, then others are very kind and will help to fill
the gaps.

Richardson wants genealogically filled messages, but he is the first
to start sniping and continue flames which have nothing to do with
genealogy.

----- Original Message -----
From: <royalancestry@msn.com
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: Newsgroup impersonality


Hal S. wrote:

I agree; it's pretty gutless to fire away with insults and then
hide
behind
a phony name.

Hal S.

Yes, Hal, I agree. It's very gutless. No one likes a coward.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net











Merilyn Pedrick

Re: Newsgroup impersonality

Legg inn av Merilyn Pedrick » 15 aug 2005 04:09:01

Oh dear - another one who has to have the last word. How pathetic.
Leo is one of the most generous and collegial contributors to this newsgroup
and his Genealogics website is magnificent and the information freely given

So just buzz off and leave him alone.
Merilyn Pedrick
Aldgate, South Australia

-------Original Message-------

From: Hal S.
Date: 08/15/05 11:28:35
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: Newsgroup impersonality

Leo: Go ahead and "prick" and "assume" all you want, but you still don't
have a clue as to what you are talking about. If you can't remember what was
in a thread you'd be better off to either look it up or forego your urge to
post. Now, I'm done with you, so fly away you pesky little gnat.

Hal S.


""Leo van de Pas"" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
news:027f01c5a131$b0df70b0$0300a8c0@Toshiba...
Again with apologies, but do I read in between the lines that Hal S
regards his "contributions" so memorable that people "should" remember
them? I think not, I have to prick that bubble. The message I replied to
seemed obnoxious to me and I responded. And so I will assume that his
previous "contributions" were obnoxious as well.

Again, an e-mail address "right on the newsgroup message" does not have to
be the one from the person signing the message. Otherwise, why sign?

Best wishes
Leo van de Pas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hal S." <h.sanders@comcast.net
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: Newsgroup impersonality



""Leo van de Pas"" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
news:026501c5a12b$186d0230$0300a8c0@Toshiba...
With apologies, but do you really think I can be bothered studying your
e-mails?

-------------------------------------

Leo: who said anything about email? You have my address right on the
newsgroup message. Just look a few lines down; you should be able to
figure it out.

Hal S.

--------------------------------------

I look at the signature, that is what counts, who says you are not using
your mother's, your wife's or your son's computer? Which means that the
signature and the e-mail address displayed may not apply to the same
person. And I hope you appreciate these messages are about the attacks
on Peter Stewart, not you.
With best wishes
Leo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hal S." <h.sanders@comcast.net
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Newsgroup impersonality


Leo: As I told you in answer to your email, you are really dense. What
do you mean "Hal who?" I sign all my postings "Hal S.", and even you
can read my email address in my postings, which begins "H.Sanders."
Put them together and what do you get? Does that sound like "Pen name?
Pseudonym? Someone in hiding?" (sic) Even you should be able to figure
that out. You have really demonstrated in your recent screeds a
pronounced inability to comprehend.

Hal S.


""Leo van de Pas"" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
news:017701c5a0b3$c66d9e30$0300a8c0@Toshiba...
Hal who? Pen name? Pseudonym? Someone in hiding?

Peter Stewart _only_ contributes as Peter Stewart, and whether that
name is on his birth certificate is no-ones business.

What I find cowardly is to attack a person who is away and cannot
defend himself.

Also cowardly is when people are being asked pertinent questions about
their own statements and they refuse to give an answer and use as
excuse there "need" to know whether the reply is directed at Tom, Dick
or Harry, and whether Tom is Dick and not Harry. Name tags are not
important substance is.

Richardson proclaiming we are here to make friends is the first one to
offend.
Humour the questioner by supplying answers and _show_ you have nothing
to hide, no unqualifications to cover up. Own up to what you can do
and what you do know, then others are very kind and will help to fill
the gaps.

Richardson wants genealogically filled messages, but he is the first
to start sniping and continue flames which have nothing to do with
genealogy.

----- Original Message -----
From: <royalancestry@msn.com
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: Newsgroup impersonality


Hal S. wrote:

I agree; it's pretty gutless to fire away with insults and then
hide
behind
a phony name.

Hal S.

Yes, Hal, I agree. It's very gutless. No one likes a coward.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net











D. Spencer Hines

Re: Newsgroup Impersonality

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 15 aug 2005 05:24:02

Leo, please!

Hal Sanders has been perfectly straightforward with you.

He never said Peter Stewart is using a pseudonym, neither did I --
although some questions have been raised about what his proper name is.

For your sake as well as ours -- please take a hot toddy and a long nap.

I mean that sincerely -- because I hate to see you so tied up in knots
and irrational like this.

You are just barking up the wrong tree and doing damage to yourself.

I have the strong impression something terrible has happened in your
private life.

Your friend,

Spencer

DSH

""Leo van de Pas"" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
news:027f01c5a131$b0df70b0$0300a8c0@Toshiba...

| Again with apologies, but do I read in between the lines that Hal S
regards
| his "contributions" so memorable that people "should" remember them? I
think
| not, I have to prick that bubble. The message I replied to seemed
obnoxious
| to me and I responded. And so I will assume that his previous
| "contributions" were obnoxious as well.
|
| Again, an e-mail address "right on the newsgroup message" does not
have to
| be the one from the person signing the message. Otherwise, why sign?
|
| Best wishes
| Leo van de Pas

Hal S.

Re: Newsgroup impersonality

Legg inn av Hal S. » 15 aug 2005 07:23:31

Ms Pedrick:

If you have anything further to say to me, confine it to the newsgroup. I
don't want any more of your emails. I have no desire to be your penpal.
While you're at it, take a look at how all this began with the "collegial"
Leo falsely saying I had said something I neither said nor implied.

Hal S.

------------------------------------
""Merilyn Pedrick"" <pedricks@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:42FFF8FF.000003.03816@MERILYNS...
Oh dear - another one who has to have the last word. How pathetic.
Leo is one of the most generous and collegial contributors to this
newsgroup
and his Genealogics website is magnificent and the information freely
given

So just buzz off and leave him alone.
Merilyn Pedrick
Aldgate, South Australia

-------Original Message-------

From: Hal S.
Date: 08/15/05 11:28:35
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: Newsgroup impersonality

Leo: Go ahead and "prick" and "assume" all you want, but you still don't
have a clue as to what you are talking about. If you can't remember what
was
in a thread you'd be better off to either look it up or forego your urge
to
post. Now, I'm done with you, so fly away you pesky little gnat.

Hal S.


""Leo van de Pas"" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
news:027f01c5a131$b0df70b0$0300a8c0@Toshiba...
Again with apologies, but do I read in between the lines that Hal S
regards his "contributions" so memorable that people "should" remember
them? I think not, I have to prick that bubble. The message I replied to
seemed obnoxious to me and I responded. And so I will assume that his
previous "contributions" were obnoxious as well.

Again, an e-mail address "right on the newsgroup message" does not have
to
be the one from the person signing the message. Otherwise, why sign?

Best wishes
Leo van de Pas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hal S." <h.sanders@comcast.net
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: Newsgroup impersonality



""Leo van de Pas"" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
news:026501c5a12b$186d0230$0300a8c0@Toshiba...
With apologies, but do you really think I can be bothered studying your
e-mails?

-------------------------------------

Leo: who said anything about email? You have my address right on the
newsgroup message. Just look a few lines down; you should be able to
figure it out.

Hal S.

--------------------------------------

I look at the signature, that is what counts, who says you are not
using
your mother's, your wife's or your son's computer? Which means that the
signature and the e-mail address displayed may not apply to the same
person. And I hope you appreciate these messages are about the attacks
on Peter Stewart, not you.
With best wishes
Leo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hal S." <h.sanders@comcast.net
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Newsgroup impersonality


Leo: As I told you in answer to your email, you are really dense.
What
do you mean "Hal who?" I sign all my postings "Hal S.", and even you
can read my email address in my postings, which begins "H.Sanders."
Put them together and what do you get? Does that sound like "Pen
name?
Pseudonym? Someone in hiding?" (sic) Even you should be able to figure
that out. You have really demonstrated in your recent screeds a
pronounced inability to comprehend.

Hal S.


""Leo van de Pas"" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
news:017701c5a0b3$c66d9e30$0300a8c0@Toshiba...
Hal who? Pen name? Pseudonym? Someone in hiding?

Peter Stewart _only_ contributes as Peter Stewart, and whether that
name is on his birth certificate is no-ones business.

What I find cowardly is to attack a person who is away and cannot
defend himself.

Also cowardly is when people are being asked pertinent questions
about
their own statements and they refuse to give an answer and use as
excuse there "need" to know whether the reply is directed at Tom,
Dick
or Harry, and whether Tom is Dick and not Harry. Name tags are not
important substance is.

Richardson proclaiming we are here to make friends is the first one
to
offend.
Humour the questioner by supplying answers and _show_ you have
nothing
to hide, no unqualifications to cover up. Own up to what you can do
and what you do know, then others are very kind and will help to fill
the gaps.

Richardson wants genealogically filled messages, but he is the first
to start sniping and continue flames which have nothing to do with
genealogy.

----- Original Message -----
From: <royalancestry@msn.com
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: Newsgroup impersonality


Hal S. wrote:

I agree; it's pretty gutless to fire away with insults and then
hide
behind
a phony name.

Hal S.

Yes, Hal, I agree. It's very gutless. No one likes a coward.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net














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