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John Higgins

Fw: Bohun of Midhurst [was: Genealogics update - James of Bo

Legg inn av John Higgins » 10 aug 2005 08:02:02

Will Johnson kindly advised that I inadvertently omitted a generation below.
The correct sequence should be:

Sir Humphrey Bohun (1418-1468); m. Margaret Estfield
John Bohun (d. 1492); m. Anne Arderne
Mary Bohun; m. (his 1st) Sir David Owen

Apologies for any confusion that this caused.....

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Higgins" <jthiggins@sbcglobal.net>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: Bohun of Midhurst [was: Genealogics update - James of Bohun /
Joan of Braose had a child 1304]


There is a very extensive article on the Bohuns of Midhurst by the noted
genealogist G. W. Watson in "The Genealogist [new series]" vol. 28 in two
parts, pp. 1-16 and 114-123 with a few addenda at 173-4. It cites
numerous
primary sources and includes a pedigree chart which helps to clarify
things.

Several generations of the family are also covered in the recently
published
Magna Carta Ancestry.

In summary, the generations that lead to the wife of Sir David Owen are as
follows, from this article:

James de Bohun (d. 1306); m. (her 1st) Joan de Braose [or Brewse]
Sir John de Bohun (1301-1367); m. (2) Cicely Filliol (d. 1381)
Sir John Bohun (1362/3-1432/3); m. (1) Alice NN
Sir Humphrey Bohun (1418-1468); m. Margaret Estfield
Mary Bohun; m. (his 1st) Sir David Owen

----- Original Message -----
From: <WJhonson@aol.com
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: Genealogics update - James of Bohun / Joan of Braose had a
child 1304


In a message dated 8/8/05 10:15:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
leovdpas@netspeed.com.au writes:

Have I missed something? I only have this new son, no wife for him
as
yet
or children.
Can you help?
Leo

You should have another message where I identified that
1) John of Bohun, was son of James of Bohun and Joan of Braose, and (1)
died
1367/8.
2) (1)'s wife Cecily was married before 1351, and she died 13 Aug 1381
3) In (2')s IPM it names her "s and heir" John of Bohun and he was to be
seized of the property immediately so evidently was already in his
majority.

However, the lands of Easebourne and Midhurt descendend in this same
family
all the way through to Mary of Bohun wife to David Owen who we've spoken
of
recently.

This is the method by which David Owen was in control of Essebourne when
he
made his 1529/30 will. Or at least it's the method presumed by the
extractor
of the records of the Bohuns of Midhurst in the A2A catalogue.

However there seems to be a gap between John of Bohun, Mary's father who
was
certainly born before 1455 and John of Bohun, son of John and Cecily
(she
d
1381).

I don't think these two John's are the same person, but possibly the
later
one is the grandson of the earlier one. I just haven't been able to
connect
them with primary documents yet. It's barely possible they were the
same
person,
we just have bad dates for Mary and her father John at present.

For some reason, I have Mary's paternal grandfather as Humphrey of Bohun
who
d bef 1468. I did not back this up with a document, so I'm not sure
where
I
got it. Sometimes I make sketchy notes and then go back and fill them
in,
but
this family is particularly annoying because there are a few stray
documents
that do not seem to be about *them* at all mixed into their records.

Will Johnson


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