Earls of Arundel & Lords of Belvoir related but differently?

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Leo van de Pas

Earls of Arundel & Lords of Belvoir related but differently?

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 23 jul 2005 03:39:02

Adrian Channing kindly helped me with details out of Domesday Descendants by Keats-Rohan. He mentions two Bigod sisters

Matilda d.c.1129 m William de Albini Pincerna
Cecilia heiress of Belvoir m William de Albini Brito

According to (sorry) Burke's Extince Peerage, 1866, page 2
William de Albini, surnamed Pincerna married Maud daughter of Roger Bigot and they had William, Nigel, Oliver and Oliva who married Raphe de Haya

The son William is William with the Strong Hands who married Queen Widow Adeliza and became the Earl of Arundel.

Now the problem is to link Cecilia and William de Albini Brito to the fLords of Belvoir, mentioned in Burke's Extinct Peerage. This is a dangerous thing to try as already has been shown that this family was wrongly recorded in this book.

Keats-Rohan gives a father and a son as William de Albini Brito, which one is married to Cecilia Bigod and is the Magna Carta Surety William Daubigny, Lord of Belvoir, born after 1146, a son of a grandson of Cecilia Bigod? As his father died 1167/8 I would guess that the Magna Carta Surety is a grandson of Cecilia Bigod.

Anyone can confirm this?
With many thanks
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

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Re: Earls of Arundel & Lords of Belvoir related but differen

Legg inn av Gjest » 23 jul 2005 04:30:02

Leo,
taf gives this line:

"Subj: Re: Albini/Aubigny Line
Date: 5/22/2002 2:13:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: farmerie@interfold.com
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com "

Charlie McNett

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