Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

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Gaye

Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

Legg inn av Gaye » 10 jul 2005 02:55:02

Yeah but then again IF she is "related to Prince Rupert it does not matter
how he is related"
her interest is ' purely medical at this time'

Sigh...right Ravyn...?

:) Gaye NEW ZEALAND


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From: "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle


You do realize, of course, that Prince Rupert of the Rhine [1619-1682]
never married, but left two bastard children.

So, any descent your grandmother and you might conceivably have from him
would be, at best, a Bastard Descent.

However, Prince Rupert was quite a romantic figure and I imagine your
grandmother was deucedly charmed by him and his legend -- and dearly
wanted to be descended from him -- even via a Bastard Descent.

Then there are Rupert's Balls, also known as Rupert's Drops. You'll
want to investigate those in depth.

Good Hunting!

Deus Vult.

D. Spencer Hines

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Vires et Honor

"Ravyn, Lady Heresy" <LadyLvsNyt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Ravyn, Lady Heresy

Re: Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

Legg inn av Ravyn, Lady Heresy » 10 jul 2005 02:55:03

as in 'how' you mean as in bastard? I could care less about that
anyway. I have a genetic disease that came from the family lines of
european royalty--I have to be related to one of them some how. Rupert
is the only wrinkle in my genealogy back to 1538, it is minor. I would
like to find the Pangbourne before 1538, but I am just as likely
related to someone FROM Pangbourne(near Reading) as the progenitor of
the surname.
Ravyn

Gaye

Re: Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

Legg inn av Gaye » 10 jul 2005 02:55:03

Precisely! It matters not HOW .. just IS...
if at all...his posts are becoming so tedious..
why is he targeting this issue so ?

pfffffffff

zzzzzzz

Good luck with your searching,


Gaye - NZ

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Peter Stewart

Re: Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

Legg inn av Peter Stewart » 10 jul 2005 04:26:32

"Gaye" <Gaye.Strand@alliednz.co.nz> wrote in message
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Precisely! It matters not HOW .. just IS...
if at all...his posts are becoming so tedious..
why is he targeting this issue so ?

To distract attention from his abysmal failure to answer salient questions
in other threads.

That is why he got rattled, and his tone in responding to Ravyn suddenly
switched to vulgarities.

He saw the name "Pieter" and foolishly assumed this must mean a Dutch
ancestor of Leo's. Then he made things worse by trying to deny this idiocy
on his part.

Hines can see that there is no percentage in his ravings - even by his own
dim lights he just goes on making a bigger & bigger fool of himself, because
the alternatives would be either owning up to patent stupidities or keeping
quiet, the very thing he interprets as failure from the other side of any
argument.

Hoist with his won petar....

Peter Stewart

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 10 jul 2005 04:35:31

Leo van de Pas should be able to unravel all that for you -- given his
extensive genealogical resources and plenty of free time.

DSH

"Ravyn, Lady Heresy" <LadyLvsNyt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| as in 'how' you mean as in bastard? I could care less about that
| anyway. I have a genetic disease that came from the family lines of
| european royalty--I have to be related to one of them some how. Rupert
| is the only wrinkle in my genealogy back to 1538, it is minor. I would
| like to find the Pangbourne before 1538, but I am just as likely
| related to someone FROM Pangbourne(near Reading) as the progenitor of
| the surname.
| Ravyn

Peter Stewart

Re: Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

Legg inn av Peter Stewart » 10 jul 2005 05:07:23

So the typo hound is back...still failing to address any qiestion of
substance, of course.

Anyway, he will now surely wish to explain to us how he overlooked the
howler in Richardon's attempted letter-by-letter transcription of some
Latin.

What exactly is the gist - purportedly understood by Ricahrdson and Hines -
of "duxtaxat"?

And what part of speech does this piece of gibberish represent?

Peter Stewart



"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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That's my Pogue Peter -- who wouldn't know a wontan from a petar if it
bit him in the arse.

How Sweet It Is!

DSH

"Peter Stewart" <p_m_stewart@msn.com> wrote in message
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| Hoist with his won petar....
|
| Peter Stewart

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 10 jul 2005 05:52:53

That's my Pogue Peter -- who wouldn't know a wontan from a petar if it
bit him in the arse.

How Sweet It Is!

DSH

"Peter Stewart" <p_m_stewart@msn.com> wrote in message
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| Hoist with his won petar....
|
| Peter Stewart

Peter Stewart

Re: Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

Legg inn av Peter Stewart » 10 jul 2005 06:16:28

"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<snip>

William The Conqueror had no know [sic] Bastards HIMSELF -- he was quite
faithful to his wife -- who was far smaller than he -- by all accounts.

Yes folks, this is the helpless pogue who pounces on other people's
typos....

<snip>

Diana, Princess of Wales, came from one of the same sort of
demimondaine, whorish, British Families.

Named Spencer....now why does that name ring a bell? Perhaps Hines has it
because his parents liked the sound, or wanted to claim a connection that of
course he is NOT proud of, ordinately or otherwise.

Peter Stewart

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 10 jul 2005 07:00:14

Some Folks find that presumed Bastard Descents From Royalty are the BEST
they can find -- so they accept and deal with them and even treat them
as Precious Treasures -- sort of like coprolites -- burnished, polished
and placed under glass in the living room -- to show off.

Peter 'Pogue' Stewart has several Bastard Descents from Charles II, of
which he is inordinately proud.

Hilarious!

But then, that's what makes Peter such **Delightful Entertainment**.

How Sweet It Is!

Some folks even have Bastard Descents from their own Parents or
Grandparents. Now, THOSE are the ones I feel REALLY sorry for.

Don't waste your sympathy on Pogue Stewart with his Bastard Descents
from King Charles II [Reigned:1660-1685]

Consider Abraham Lincoln, who had a Bastard Descent from his maternal
grandparents -- yes, his Mother, Nancy Hanks, was a Bastard.

I'd say Abe Lincoln did pretty well by himself -- and by us Americans.
Our Greatest President.

Further, you keep running into all these people who are so proud to be
descended from William The Conqueror -- hundreds of millions of folks.

Yet William The Conqueror was a Bastard TOO.

William The Bastard.

Some folks even have a Bastard Decent from William The Bastard ----
Doubly Hilarious!

William The Conqueror had no know Bastards HIMSELF -- he was quite
faithful to his wife -- who was far smaller than he -- by all accounts.

I often mention Great-Grandfather William The Conqueror, with tongue
firmly in cheek, because there are HUNDREDS of millions of us folks
descended from him ---- so it certainly "ain't no big thing".

Of course, FINDING and AUTHENTICATING the actual links to William The
Conqueror is a horse of a different color ---- and most folks can't do
that.

Hence The Corrosive, Amusing Envy Of The Poguenoscenti....

But, Peter Stewart, of course, CAN document his links -- to a BASTARD
DESCENT from King Charles II, who had, count them, 14 BASTARDS -- and NO
legitimate children -- so there are plenty of opportunities for folks of
Peter's Ilk to find Bastard Descents from King Charles II.

Ergo, it's easy for Peter Stewart to feel the SHAME of a BASTARD DESCENT
from King Charles II.

Peter Stewart's kind were turning their sisters, aunts, nieces, cousins,
mothers and grandmothers into demimondaines and whores for Royalty for
CENTURIES -- hence the numerous BASTARD DESCENTS from Royalty held by
these Families.

Diana, Princess of Wales, came from one of the same sort of
demimondaine, whorish, British Families.

She too had Bastard Descents from Charles II.

'Nuff Said.

God Save The Queen!

And:

God Bless America.

Me ke aloha pumehana,

Deus Vult.

D. Spencer Hines

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Vires et Honor

Gaye

Re: Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

Legg inn av Gaye » 10 jul 2005 07:48:39

OK ENOUGH ALREADY
jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezus

Most people also live in the NOW .. and it matters NOT what went
before save a piece of paper called a marriage licence...
that is neither here nor there in the scheme of things really,
LET IT BE... bastard or no, one IS
We cannot undo the past

What's this really about you guys??
Why do you argue amongst yourselves so?
Who pees up the wall the highest? Surely not!
sheeeeeeesh ... c'mon

You ALL have so much talent ... let's share and be one people
on the face of terra firma. One family of 'hu-man' ...
gee DSH maybe I'm your cousin! Scarey thought huh.

Let's just share - give what we can/have in the best heart.

GROUP HUG....C'MON ...

;)
GAYE

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Re: Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

Legg inn av Ravyn, Lady Heresy » 10 jul 2005 18:55:20

is it just me or does the conversation--if you want to call it
that--consist of disjointed nonsense phrases and obscure (supposed)
insults? I have had more fluent exchanges with bag ladies. I suppose
just for fun we should all go out and kick dogs and pinch babies? I
feel like I am in some kind of genealogy asylum. Like Clockwork Orange
meets Jon Malkovich.
Ravyn

Ravyn, Lady Heresy

Re: Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

Legg inn av Ravyn, Lady Heresy » 10 jul 2005 18:58:43

anyone ever see the movie The Ninth Configuration? great movie. think I
will watch it today and clear my mind from this
clutter.....hahahahahahahahaha
Ravyn

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 10 jul 2005 20:12:27

Tell us all about your conversations with bag ladies -- they sound quite
fascinating.

DSH

"Ravyn, Lady Heresy" <LadyLvsNyt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| is it just me or does the conversation--if you want to call it
| that--consist of disjointed nonsense phrases and obscure (supposed)
| insults? I have had more fluent exchanges with bag ladies. I suppose
| just for fun we should all go out and kick dogs and pinch babies? I
| feel like I am in some kind of genealogy asylum. Like Clockwork Orange
| meets Jon Malkovich.
| Ravyn

Ravyn, Lady Heresy

Re: Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

Legg inn av Ravyn, Lady Heresy » 10 jul 2005 21:16:35

well one of them the other day was quoting Latin-badly, and claimed she
was related to Henry VIII--bastard descent of course, she was quite
proud of it. But I don't get into the City as much as I used to when I
worked as an EMT.
Ravyn

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 10 jul 2005 22:21:35

Charming!

DSH

"Ravyn, Lady Heresy" <LadyLvsNyt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| well one of them the other day was quoting Latin-badly, and claimed
she
| was related to Henry VIII--bastard descent of course, she was quite
| proud of it. But I don't get into the City as much as I used to when I
| worked as an EMT.
| Ravyn

Scooter

Re: Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

Legg inn av Scooter » 23 jul 2005 23:58:27

On , , 9 Jul 2005 18:03:14 -0700, Re: Rupert's Right Royal
Puzzle, "Ravyn, Lady Heresy" <LadyLvsNyt@yahoo.com> wrote:

as in 'how' you mean as in bastard? I could care less about that
anyway. I have a genetic disease that came from the family lines of
european royalty

Are you saying that only royalty ever suffered from the disease?
(As in being the first to ever have the disease?)
Absolutely nobody else at all?
--
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has a long way to go to regain its credibility and
reputation with the US."
Unknown.

Scooter

Re: Rupert's Right Royal Puzzle

Legg inn av Scooter » 23 jul 2005 23:58:27

On , , Sun, 10 Jul 2005 05:16:28 GMT, Re: Rupert's Right Royal
Puzzle, "Peter Stewart" <p_m_stewart@msn.com> wrote:

"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:752Ae.601$4H2.3500@eagle.america.net...

snip

William The Conqueror had no know [sic] Bastards HIMSELF -- he was quite
faithful to his wife -- who was far smaller than he -- by all accounts.

Yes folks, this is the helpless pogue who pounces on other people's
typos....

snip

Diana, Princess of Wales, came from one of the same sort of
demimondaine, whorish, British Families.

Named Spencer....now why does that name ring a bell?

He is obviously so inordinately proud of the name he affects to
use it only, relegating his first name to a mere initial.

--
"Considering the events of recent years,the world
has a long way to go to regain its credibility and
reputation with the US."
Unknown.

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