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Stewart Baldwin

HP - New Henry Project Pages

Legg inn av Stewart Baldwin » 07 jul 2005 19:30:31

I have now uploaded some new pages to the Henry Project, of which the
URL to the index page is:

http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/provis.htm

The 23 new pages are:

Agnes of Évreux, wife of Simon I de Montfort
Amaury I de Montfort
Bertrade de Montfort, wife of Fulk IV and Philip I
Elizabeth, wife of Robert de Château-du-Loir
Éremburge, wife of Gervaise II de Château-du-Loir
Éremburge de la Fleche, wife of Fulk IV of Anjou
Fulk V of Anjou
Gervaise II de Château-du-Loir
Godehilde, wife of Yves de Bellême
Godehilde, wife of Roger de Tosny and Richard of Évreux
Hamon/Hamelin de Château-du-Loir
Helias de la Fleche, count of Maine
Herleve, wife of Robert, archbishop of Rouen
Henry I of England
Hildeburge de Bellême. wife of Hamon/Hamelin
Mathilde, mother of Éremburge, wife of Gervaise II
Richard, count of Évreux
Robert, archbishop of Rouen (and count of Évreux)
Robert "Brochard" de Château-du-Loir
Rorans, grandmother of Hamo/Hamelin
Simon I de Montfort
William the Conqueror
Yves I de Bellême

These page are in various states of completeness. I imagine that my
list of bastards of Henry I could still use some further revision.
As usual, comments are welcome

Stewart Baldwin

Stewart Baldwin

Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages

Legg inn av Stewart Baldwin » 07 jul 2005 19:37:19

On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:30:31 GMT, Stewart Baldwin
<sbaldw@mindspring.com> wrote:

I have now uploaded some new pages to the Henry Project, of which the
URL to the index page is:

http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/provis.htm


I forgot to add that I have still not gone over to the old pages to
add links to the new pages.

Stewart Baldwin

Douglas Richardson royala

Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson royala » 07 jul 2005 20:24:23

Thank you, Stewart. Much appreciated.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

Stewart Baldwin wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:30:31 GMT, Stewart Baldwin
sbaldw@mindspring.com> wrote:

I have now uploaded some new pages to the Henry Project, of which the
URL to the index page is:

http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/provis.htm


I forgot to add that I have still not gone over to the old pages to
add links to the new pages.

Stewart Baldwin

Nathaniel Taylor

Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages

Legg inn av Nathaniel Taylor » 08 jul 2005 05:29:01

At 6:30 PM +0000 7/7/05, Stewart Baldwin wrote:
I have now uploaded some new pages to the Henry Project

Henry I of England

Stewart, it's great to see the Henry Project grow.

Re: Henry I's second marriage, you give only the year, 1121, but cite
Roger of Hovedon noting that he says "at the Purification of St.
Mary". Does this not date the marriage precisely to 2 Feb 1121
(feast of the Purification), or is there reason to doubt the precise
date?

Nat

Nathaniel Taylor

Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages

Legg inn av Nathaniel Taylor » 10 jul 2005 04:33:02

In article <qekqc11iqp7ap4knrir8lckdie9sbguikv@4ax.com>,
Stewart Baldwin <sbaldw@mindspring.com> wrote:

I have now uploaded some new pages to the Henry Project

...

Henry I of England

Stewart, it's great to see the Henry Project grow.

Re: Henry I's second marriage, you give only the year, 1121, but cite
Roger of Hovedon noting that he says "at the Purification of St. Mary".
Does this not date the marriage more precisely to 2 Feb 1121 (feast of
the Purification), or is there reason to doubt the precise date?

[I sent this to GEN-Medieval on Thursday, not having access to my
newsreader, but see it did not pass the NG gate. Don noted that there
were problems with the listserver at that time; apologies for a double
post to list.]

Nat Taylor

a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/

Gjest

Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages

Legg inn av Gjest » 11 jul 2005 23:15:02

In a message dated 7/9/05 8:47:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
nathanieltaylor@earthlink.net writes:

<< Re: Henry I's second marriage, you give only the year, 1121, but cite
Roger of Hovedon noting that he says "at the Purification of St. Mary".
Does this not date the marriage more precisely to 2 Feb 1121 (feast of
the Purification), or is there reason to doubt the precise date? >>

Should this be 2 Feb 1121/2 ?
Thanks
Will Johnson

Gordon Banks

Journal of Genetic Genealogy

Legg inn av Gordon Banks » 12 jul 2005 01:04:02

This may be of interest to some. There is a new free online journal.
There is an article on DNA evidence of the descent of the Ashkenazim.

The URL is http://www.jogg.info

David Teague

Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages

Legg inn av David Teague » 12 jul 2005 02:38:01

From: WJhonson@aol.com
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:13:41 EDT

In a message dated 7/9/05 8:47:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
nathanieltaylor@earthlink.net writes:

Re: Henry I's second marriage, you give only the year, 1121, but cite
Roger of Hovedon noting that he says "at the Purification of St. Mary".
Does this not date the marriage more precisely to 2 Feb 1121 (feast of
the Purification), or is there reason to doubt the precise date?

Should this be 2 Feb 1121/2 ?
Thanks
Will Johnson

Or should it be 2 Feb. 1120/1?

David Teague

Nathaniel Taylor

Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages

Legg inn av Nathaniel Taylor » 12 jul 2005 02:43:52

In article <BAY101-F676A194588A511D3FF660BBDF0@phx.gbl>,
davteague@hotmail.com ("David Teague") wrote:

From: WJhonson@aol.com
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:13:41 EDT

In a message dated 7/9/05 8:47:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
nathanieltaylor@earthlink.net writes:

Re: Henry I's second marriage, you give only the year, 1121, but cite
Roger of Hovedon noting that he says "at the Purification of St. Mary".
Does this not date the marriage more precisely to 2 Feb 1121 (feast of
the Purification), or is there reason to doubt the precise date?

Should this be 2 Feb 1121/2 ?
Thanks
Will Johnson

Or should it be 2 Feb. 1120/1?

The reference is from a period before Incarnation dating (beginning the
year on 25 March) came into general use in Britain, so a 'split date' is
not really appropriate. If he was using a Christmas year-change (as
ASC & other Norman chroniclers did), then it's unambiguous and best left
as simply 1121. Another way to put it is that the marriage was
concluded only weeks after the loss of Henry's only legitimate male heir
in the wreck of the White Ship (November 1120).

Nat Taylor

a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/

Peter Stewart

Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages

Legg inn av Peter Stewart » 12 jul 2005 03:57:58

""David Teague"" <davteague@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BAY101-F676A194588A511D3FF660BBDF0@phx.gbl...

From: WJhonson@aol.com
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:13:41 EDT

In a message dated 7/9/05 8:47:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
nathanieltaylor@earthlink.net writes:

Re: Henry I's second marriage, you give only the year, 1121, but cite
Roger of Hovedon noting that he says "at the Purification of St. Mary".
Does this not date the marriage more precisely to 2 Feb 1121 (feast of
the Purification), or is there reason to doubt the precise date?

Should this be 2 Feb 1121/2 ?
Thanks
Will Johnson

Or should it be 2 Feb. 1120/1?

It should 1121, on 29 January and before the Purification according to
William Farrer in 'An Outline Itinerary of Kinf Henry the First', _Englsih
Historical Review_ 34 (1919) no. 408 on p. 515, citing Symeon of Durham. The
wedding ceremony was performed by the bishop of Winchester. On the following
day the new queen was consecrated and crowned by the archbishop of
Canterbury (who had been sick on the previous day), citing Eadmer and John
of Worcester.

Peter Stewart

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