HP - New Henry Project Pages
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Stewart Baldwin
HP - New Henry Project Pages
I have now uploaded some new pages to the Henry Project, of which the
URL to the index page is:
http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/provis.htm
The 23 new pages are:
Agnes of Évreux, wife of Simon I de Montfort
Amaury I de Montfort
Bertrade de Montfort, wife of Fulk IV and Philip I
Elizabeth, wife of Robert de Château-du-Loir
Éremburge, wife of Gervaise II de Château-du-Loir
Éremburge de la Fleche, wife of Fulk IV of Anjou
Fulk V of Anjou
Gervaise II de Château-du-Loir
Godehilde, wife of Yves de Bellême
Godehilde, wife of Roger de Tosny and Richard of Évreux
Hamon/Hamelin de Château-du-Loir
Helias de la Fleche, count of Maine
Herleve, wife of Robert, archbishop of Rouen
Henry I of England
Hildeburge de Bellême. wife of Hamon/Hamelin
Mathilde, mother of Éremburge, wife of Gervaise II
Richard, count of Évreux
Robert, archbishop of Rouen (and count of Évreux)
Robert "Brochard" de Château-du-Loir
Rorans, grandmother of Hamo/Hamelin
Simon I de Montfort
William the Conqueror
Yves I de Bellême
These page are in various states of completeness. I imagine that my
list of bastards of Henry I could still use some further revision.
As usual, comments are welcome
Stewart Baldwin
URL to the index page is:
http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/provis.htm
The 23 new pages are:
Agnes of Évreux, wife of Simon I de Montfort
Amaury I de Montfort
Bertrade de Montfort, wife of Fulk IV and Philip I
Elizabeth, wife of Robert de Château-du-Loir
Éremburge, wife of Gervaise II de Château-du-Loir
Éremburge de la Fleche, wife of Fulk IV of Anjou
Fulk V of Anjou
Gervaise II de Château-du-Loir
Godehilde, wife of Yves de Bellême
Godehilde, wife of Roger de Tosny and Richard of Évreux
Hamon/Hamelin de Château-du-Loir
Helias de la Fleche, count of Maine
Herleve, wife of Robert, archbishop of Rouen
Henry I of England
Hildeburge de Bellême. wife of Hamon/Hamelin
Mathilde, mother of Éremburge, wife of Gervaise II
Richard, count of Évreux
Robert, archbishop of Rouen (and count of Évreux)
Robert "Brochard" de Château-du-Loir
Rorans, grandmother of Hamo/Hamelin
Simon I de Montfort
William the Conqueror
Yves I de Bellême
These page are in various states of completeness. I imagine that my
list of bastards of Henry I could still use some further revision.
As usual, comments are welcome
Stewart Baldwin
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Stewart Baldwin
Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages
On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:30:31 GMT, Stewart Baldwin
<sbaldw@mindspring.com> wrote:
I forgot to add that I have still not gone over to the old pages to
add links to the new pages.
Stewart Baldwin
<sbaldw@mindspring.com> wrote:
I have now uploaded some new pages to the Henry Project, of which the
URL to the index page is:
http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/provis.htm
I forgot to add that I have still not gone over to the old pages to
add links to the new pages.
Stewart Baldwin
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Douglas Richardson royala
Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages
Thank you, Stewart. Much appreciated.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: http://www.royalancestry.net
Stewart Baldwin wrote:
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: http://www.royalancestry.net
Stewart Baldwin wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:30:31 GMT, Stewart Baldwin
sbaldw@mindspring.com> wrote:
I have now uploaded some new pages to the Henry Project, of which the
URL to the index page is:
http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/provis.htm
I forgot to add that I have still not gone over to the old pages to
add links to the new pages.
Stewart Baldwin
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Nathaniel Taylor
Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages
At 6:30 PM +0000 7/7/05, Stewart Baldwin wrote:
Stewart, it's great to see the Henry Project grow.
Re: Henry I's second marriage, you give only the year, 1121, but cite
Roger of Hovedon noting that he says "at the Purification of St.
Mary". Does this not date the marriage precisely to 2 Feb 1121
(feast of the Purification), or is there reason to doubt the precise
date?
Nat
I have now uploaded some new pages to the Henry Project
Henry I of England
Stewart, it's great to see the Henry Project grow.
Re: Henry I's second marriage, you give only the year, 1121, but cite
Roger of Hovedon noting that he says "at the Purification of St.
Mary". Does this not date the marriage precisely to 2 Feb 1121
(feast of the Purification), or is there reason to doubt the precise
date?
Nat
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Nathaniel Taylor
Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages
In article <qekqc11iqp7ap4knrir8lckdie9sbguikv@4ax.com>,
Stewart Baldwin <sbaldw@mindspring.com> wrote:
Stewart, it's great to see the Henry Project grow.
Re: Henry I's second marriage, you give only the year, 1121, but cite
Roger of Hovedon noting that he says "at the Purification of St. Mary".
Does this not date the marriage more precisely to 2 Feb 1121 (feast of
the Purification), or is there reason to doubt the precise date?
[I sent this to GEN-Medieval on Thursday, not having access to my
newsreader, but see it did not pass the NG gate. Don noted that there
were problems with the listserver at that time; apologies for a double
post to list.]
Nat Taylor
a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/
Stewart Baldwin <sbaldw@mindspring.com> wrote:
I have now uploaded some new pages to the Henry Project
...
Henry I of England
Stewart, it's great to see the Henry Project grow.
Re: Henry I's second marriage, you give only the year, 1121, but cite
Roger of Hovedon noting that he says "at the Purification of St. Mary".
Does this not date the marriage more precisely to 2 Feb 1121 (feast of
the Purification), or is there reason to doubt the precise date?
[I sent this to GEN-Medieval on Thursday, not having access to my
newsreader, but see it did not pass the NG gate. Don noted that there
were problems with the listserver at that time; apologies for a double
post to list.]
Nat Taylor
a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/
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Gjest
Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages
In a message dated 7/9/05 8:47:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
nathanieltaylor@earthlink.net writes:
<< Re: Henry I's second marriage, you give only the year, 1121, but cite
Roger of Hovedon noting that he says "at the Purification of St. Mary".
Does this not date the marriage more precisely to 2 Feb 1121 (feast of
the Purification), or is there reason to doubt the precise date? >>
Should this be 2 Feb 1121/2 ?
Thanks
Will Johnson
nathanieltaylor@earthlink.net writes:
<< Re: Henry I's second marriage, you give only the year, 1121, but cite
Roger of Hovedon noting that he says "at the Purification of St. Mary".
Does this not date the marriage more precisely to 2 Feb 1121 (feast of
the Purification), or is there reason to doubt the precise date? >>
Should this be 2 Feb 1121/2 ?
Thanks
Will Johnson
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David Teague
Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages
From: WJhonson@aol.com
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:13:41 EDT
In a message dated 7/9/05 8:47:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
nathanieltaylor@earthlink.net writes:
Re: Henry I's second marriage, you give only the year, 1121, but cite
Roger of Hovedon noting that he says "at the Purification of St. Mary".
Does this not date the marriage more precisely to 2 Feb 1121 (feast of
the Purification), or is there reason to doubt the precise date?
Should this be 2 Feb 1121/2 ?
Thanks
Will Johnson
Or should it be 2 Feb. 1120/1?
David Teague
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Nathaniel Taylor
Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages
In article <BAY101-F676A194588A511D3FF660BBDF0@phx.gbl>,
davteague@hotmail.com ("David Teague") wrote:
The reference is from a period before Incarnation dating (beginning the
year on 25 March) came into general use in Britain, so a 'split date' is
not really appropriate. If he was using a Christmas year-change (as
ASC & other Norman chroniclers did), then it's unambiguous and best left
as simply 1121. Another way to put it is that the marriage was
concluded only weeks after the loss of Henry's only legitimate male heir
in the wreck of the White Ship (November 1120).
Nat Taylor
a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/
davteague@hotmail.com ("David Teague") wrote:
From: WJhonson@aol.com
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:13:41 EDT
In a message dated 7/9/05 8:47:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
nathanieltaylor@earthlink.net writes:
Re: Henry I's second marriage, you give only the year, 1121, but cite
Roger of Hovedon noting that he says "at the Purification of St. Mary".
Does this not date the marriage more precisely to 2 Feb 1121 (feast of
the Purification), or is there reason to doubt the precise date?
Should this be 2 Feb 1121/2 ?
Thanks
Will Johnson
Or should it be 2 Feb. 1120/1?
The reference is from a period before Incarnation dating (beginning the
year on 25 March) came into general use in Britain, so a 'split date' is
not really appropriate. If he was using a Christmas year-change (as
ASC & other Norman chroniclers did), then it's unambiguous and best left
as simply 1121. Another way to put it is that the marriage was
concluded only weeks after the loss of Henry's only legitimate male heir
in the wreck of the White Ship (November 1120).
Nat Taylor
a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/
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Peter Stewart
Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages
""David Teague"" <davteague@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BAY101-F676A194588A511D3FF660BBDF0@phx.gbl...
It should 1121, on 29 January and before the Purification according to
William Farrer in 'An Outline Itinerary of Kinf Henry the First', _Englsih
Historical Review_ 34 (1919) no. 408 on p. 515, citing Symeon of Durham. The
wedding ceremony was performed by the bishop of Winchester. On the following
day the new queen was consecrated and crowned by the archbishop of
Canterbury (who had been sick on the previous day), citing Eadmer and John
of Worcester.
Peter Stewart
news:BAY101-F676A194588A511D3FF660BBDF0@phx.gbl...
From: WJhonson@aol.com
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: HP - New Henry Project Pages
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:13:41 EDT
In a message dated 7/9/05 8:47:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
nathanieltaylor@earthlink.net writes:
Re: Henry I's second marriage, you give only the year, 1121, but cite
Roger of Hovedon noting that he says "at the Purification of St. Mary".
Does this not date the marriage more precisely to 2 Feb 1121 (feast of
the Purification), or is there reason to doubt the precise date?
Should this be 2 Feb 1121/2 ?
Thanks
Will Johnson
Or should it be 2 Feb. 1120/1?
It should 1121, on 29 January and before the Purification according to
William Farrer in 'An Outline Itinerary of Kinf Henry the First', _Englsih
Historical Review_ 34 (1919) no. 408 on p. 515, citing Symeon of Durham. The
wedding ceremony was performed by the bishop of Winchester. On the following
day the new queen was consecrated and crowned by the archbishop of
Canterbury (who had been sick on the previous day), citing Eadmer and John
of Worcester.
Peter Stewart