Deans of Whalley Lancashire

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paul bulkley

Deans of Whalley Lancashire

Legg inn av paul bulkley » 16 mai 2005 21:11:02

The Shuttleworth Deeds of High Whitaker written in
latin include:

John de Lascy Earl of Lincoln and Constable of
Chester grants to Gilbert Whitaker 20 acres land in
Padiham Clitheroe Lancashire 1237.

Witnesses #2 and #3 were Vitredo de Hwall and Rogero
de Hwall.

Parker the editor (Chetham Society) has a notation in
which the two witnesses are transcribed as Uctrid of
Whalley and Roger of Whalley (last Dean of Whalley)

Can anyone explain how the name Hwall (latin) becomes
Whalley (English)

Thank you,

Paul Bulkley



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Peter Stewart

Re: Deans of Whalley Lancashire

Legg inn av Peter Stewart » 17 mai 2005 03:43:02

"paul bulkley" <designeconomic@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The Shuttleworth Deeds of High Whitaker written in
latin include:

John de Lascy Earl of Lincoln and Constable of
Chester grants to Gilbert Whitaker 20 acres land in
Padiham Clitheroe Lancashire 1237.

Witnesses #2 and #3 were Vitredo de Hwall and Rogero
de Hwall.

Parker the editor (Chetham Society) has a notation in
which the two witnesses are transcribed as Uctrid of
Whalley and Roger of Whalley (last Dean of Whalley)

Can anyone explain how the name Hwall (latin) becomes
Whalley (English)

It doesn't - the premise is faulty, since "Hwall" isn't actually written "in
Latin" but just occurs in a document that was.

This is simply an approximation for (presumably) Whalley, invented as a
nonce word where a definite form was lacking in Latin, by a scribe who
apparently didn't know the more common usage, "de Whalleye" (or, less
felicitously for a vain individual, "de Walleye").

There was no fixed spelling of Whalley in the vernacular at the time, much
less in Latin. I expect that various other forms can be found in _The
Coucher Book or Chartulary of Whalley Abbey_, (Manchester, 1847-49).

Peter Stewart

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