Robert Vipont, chevalier, married ca. 1320 Margaret, Heiress of Hucumanby &
Midelsceugh with rights in Lamonby. The birth of Margaret would be ca.
1300. Their son, Nicholas b. ca. 1320 married Elena Daubeney d/o Robert,
heir of Gregory de Burdon. The IPM of Robert Vipont in 1371 states he held
Jonby of John de Kirketon, heir of Gregory Burdon. The John de Kyrkton who
d. 1365-67 was the son of Robert Kyrketon and Beatrice Driby. 1343, John de
Kirketon to settle the castle of Tattershall and the manors of Tattershall
and Tumby, with the knights' fees and advowsons thereto pertaining, on
himself and Isabel his wife, etc.
In my attempts to identify Margaret, I have found the following.
Circa 1080, Hunmanby Manor was given to Gilbert de Gant. It appears that a
great great grandaughter, Isabel FitzWalter married Hugh de Tateshal. The
1304 IPM of Robert de Thatessal [Tatteshall] indicates he held Hucmandby.
In 1323 Joan de Driby to grant the third part of two-thirds of the manor of
Hunmanby, and her reversion in the third part of the third part now held in
dower by Joan, late the wife of Robert de Tateshale.
in 1315, John de Penreth to grant land in Lamonby, Mosywra, Langhirst, and
Whitby in Middlesceugh to a chaplain in the chapel of Lamonby, retaining a
messuage and land in Seliwra, and land in Lamonby. Cumb. 8 EDWARD II. And,
in 1328 , John de Penrith to settle the manor of Lamonby and land in Seliwra
and Middlesceugh on himself, Margaret his wife, and his heirs. Cumb. 11
EDWARD II.
I have yet to find what part Penreth held, nevertheless, could anyone
suggest the connection of Penreth and Tattershall? Any observations would be
greatly appreciated.
Pat
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Gjest
Re:
"Patricia Junkin" wrote:
I believe Margaret was Margaret Ros daughter of James Ros and Maud de
Bernacke.
Maud de Bernacke was the granddaughter of Robert de Driby and Joan de
Tattershall.
see
Knights of Edward I, ed. Rev, C Moor, The Harleian Society, (1929),
Vol. IV, pps 140-141.
Paul Reed, post to SGM dated 2002-5-15, Re: Roos on Ingmanthorpe, York.
Nichols, Hist. & Antiq. of Leicestershire 2(1) (1795): Appendix, pp.
23, 37.
Doug Smith
Robert Vipont, chevalier, married ca. 1320 Margaret, Heiress of
Hucumanby &
Midelsceugh with rights in Lamonby. The birth of Margaret would be
ca.
1300. Their son, Nicholas b. ca. 1320 married Elena Daubeney d/o
Robert,
heir of Gregory de Burdon. The IPM of Robert Vipont in 1371 states
he held
Jonby of John de Kirketon, heir of Gregory Burdon. The John de
Kyrkton who
d. 1365-67 was the son of Robert Kyrketon and Beatrice Driby. 1343,
John de
Kirketon to settle the castle of Tattershall and the manors of
Tattershall
and Tumby, with the knights' fees and advowsons thereto pertaining,
on
himself and Isabel his wife, etc.
In my attempts to identify Margaret, I have found the following.
Circa 1080, Hunmanby Manor was given to Gilbert de Gant. It appears
that a
great great grandaughter, Isabel FitzWalter married Hugh de Tateshal.
The
1304 IPM of Robert de Thatessal [Tatteshall] indicates he held
Hucmandby.
In 1323 Joan de Driby to grant the third part of two-thirds of the
manor of
Hunmanby, and her reversion in the third part of the third part now
held in
dower by Joan, late the wife of Robert de Tateshale.
in 1315, John de Penreth to grant land in Lamonby, Mosywra,
Langhirst, and
Whitby in Middlesceugh to a chaplain in the chapel of Lamonby,
retaining a
messuage and land in Seliwra, and land in Lamonby. Cumb. 8 EDWARD II.
And,
in 1328 , John de Penrith to settle the manor of Lamonby and land in
Seliwra
and Middlesceugh on himself, Margaret his wife, and his heirs. Cumb.
11
EDWARD II.
I have yet to find what part Penreth held, nevertheless, could anyone
suggest the connection of Penreth and Tattershall? Any observations
would be
greatly appreciated.
I believe Margaret was Margaret Ros daughter of James Ros and Maud de
Bernacke.
Maud de Bernacke was the granddaughter of Robert de Driby and Joan de
Tattershall.
see
Knights of Edward I, ed. Rev, C Moor, The Harleian Society, (1929),
Vol. IV, pps 140-141.
Paul Reed, post to SGM dated 2002-5-15, Re: Roos on Ingmanthorpe, York.
Nichols, Hist. & Antiq. of Leicestershire 2(1) (1795): Appendix, pp.
23, 37.
Doug Smith
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Douglas Richardson royala
Identity of Maud de Bernake, wife of James de Roos, of Gedne
Dear Doug ~
If you check the newsgroup archives, you'll find that I previously
identified the maiden name and parentage of Maud de Bernake, wife of
Sir James de Roos, of Gedney, Lincolnshire for Patricia Junkin. I've
copied my post below for easy reference. Maud's identity was
discovered while I was doing research for my forthcoming book, Magna
Carta Ancestry.
I believe you can find a reference to the 1323 land grant of Joan (de
Tateshall) de Driby to her granddaughter, Maud (de Bernake) de Roos, in
the book, Inquisitions ad Quod Damnum. Good luck in your sleuthing!
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: http://www.royalancestry.net
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COPY OF EARLIER POST
Identity of Maud de Bernake, wife of James de Roos, of Gedney,
Lincolnshire
Douglas Richardson royalancestry@msn.com Feb 16, 10:33 am
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 16 Feb 2005 07:33:43 -0800
Local: Wed,Feb 16 2005 10:33 am
Subject: Identity of Maud de Bernake, wife of James de Roos, of Gedney,
Lincolnshire
Dear Patricia ~
Thank you for your good post.
You have correctly observed that Joan (de Tateshall) de Driby settled
lands in 1323 on James de Roos, and his wife, Maud, and the heirs of
their bodies, with reversion to the heirs of Maud. Since this property
in Hunmanby, Yorkshire was part of Joan's inheritance, and since the
remainder was set to go to the heirs of Maud, this is all a good
indication that Maud was near related to Joan de Driby. Also, this
settlement appears to have taken place about the time of Maud's
marriage. As such, this settlement was almost certainly intended to
serve as Maud's maritagium.
As it turns out, Maud de Roos was Joan's own granddaughter, being the
child of William de Bernake, by his wife, Alice, daughter of Robert de
Driby and Joan de Tateshale.
Evidence of Maud de Roos' maiden name can be found in the records of
Belvoir Priory which shows that anniversary of Maud Bernak, widow of
Sir James de Ros, was kept at Belvoir Priory 24 October [Reference:
Nichols, Hist. & Antiq. of Leicestershire 2(1) (1795): Appendix, pp.
23, 37].
Further information on the Roos family of Gedney, Lincolnshire will be
found in my forthcoming book, Magna Carta Ancestry, scheduled for
publication in June 2005. Please contact me offline for details
regarding ordering the book.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: http://www.royalancestry.net
a...@mindspring.com wrote:
If you check the newsgroup archives, you'll find that I previously
identified the maiden name and parentage of Maud de Bernake, wife of
Sir James de Roos, of Gedney, Lincolnshire for Patricia Junkin. I've
copied my post below for easy reference. Maud's identity was
discovered while I was doing research for my forthcoming book, Magna
Carta Ancestry.
I believe you can find a reference to the 1323 land grant of Joan (de
Tateshall) de Driby to her granddaughter, Maud (de Bernake) de Roos, in
the book, Inquisitions ad Quod Damnum. Good luck in your sleuthing!
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: http://www.royalancestry.net
+ + + + + + + + + + + + +
COPY OF EARLIER POST
Identity of Maud de Bernake, wife of James de Roos, of Gedney,
Lincolnshire
Douglas Richardson royalancestry@msn.com Feb 16, 10:33 am
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 16 Feb 2005 07:33:43 -0800
Local: Wed,Feb 16 2005 10:33 am
Subject: Identity of Maud de Bernake, wife of James de Roos, of Gedney,
Lincolnshire
Dear Patricia ~
Thank you for your good post.
You have correctly observed that Joan (de Tateshall) de Driby settled
lands in 1323 on James de Roos, and his wife, Maud, and the heirs of
their bodies, with reversion to the heirs of Maud. Since this property
in Hunmanby, Yorkshire was part of Joan's inheritance, and since the
remainder was set to go to the heirs of Maud, this is all a good
indication that Maud was near related to Joan de Driby. Also, this
settlement appears to have taken place about the time of Maud's
marriage. As such, this settlement was almost certainly intended to
serve as Maud's maritagium.
As it turns out, Maud de Roos was Joan's own granddaughter, being the
child of William de Bernake, by his wife, Alice, daughter of Robert de
Driby and Joan de Tateshale.
Evidence of Maud de Roos' maiden name can be found in the records of
Belvoir Priory which shows that anniversary of Maud Bernak, widow of
Sir James de Ros, was kept at Belvoir Priory 24 October [Reference:
Nichols, Hist. & Antiq. of Leicestershire 2(1) (1795): Appendix, pp.
23, 37].
Further information on the Roos family of Gedney, Lincolnshire will be
found in my forthcoming book, Magna Carta Ancestry, scheduled for
publication in June 2005. Please contact me offline for details
regarding ordering the book.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: http://www.royalancestry.net
a...@mindspring.com wrote:
I believe Margaret was Margaret Ros daughter of James Ros and Maud de
Bernacke.
Maud de Bernacke was the granddaughter of Robert de Driby and Joan de
Tattershall.
see
Knights of Edward I, ed. Rev, C Moor, The Harleian Society, (1929),
Vol. IV, pps 140-141.
Paul Reed, post to SGM dated 2002-5-15, Re: Roos on Ingmanthorpe,
York.
Nichols, Hist. & Antiq. of Leicestershire 2(1) (1795): Appendix, pp.
23, 37.
Doug Smith
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Gjest
Re: Identity of Maud de Bernake, wife of James de Roos, of G
Yes Douglas,
I read your earlier informative post. The only point of mine was to
suggest that the Margaret who married Nicholas Vipont was apparently
Margaret Roos (if she was heiress of Hunmanby), daughter of James de
Roos and Maud Bernacke, therefore granddaughter of William Bernacke and
Alice de Driby and thus great-granddaughter of Robert de Driby and Joan
de Tattershall (Tateshall).
Doug
I read your earlier informative post. The only point of mine was to
suggest that the Margaret who married Nicholas Vipont was apparently
Margaret Roos (if she was heiress of Hunmanby), daughter of James de
Roos and Maud Bernacke, therefore granddaughter of William Bernacke and
Alice de Driby and thus great-granddaughter of Robert de Driby and Joan
de Tattershall (Tateshall).
Doug