Lords of Guilsfield/Wynnesbury

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Lords of Guilsfield/Wynnesbury

Legg inn av Gjest » 29 apr 2005 05:50:55

Robert O'Connor wrote with an interesting Wynnesbury line of descent.
But I wonder whether it is accurate. It appears that John Wynnesbury's
heir was not Hamlet, or that (if he was) then he had no legitimate issue.
The Shropshire Record Office has in the Sandford of the Isle collection a
grant - ref. 465/57 - date: 23 April 1479 (19 Edward IV)
[from Scope and Content] "By Dame (domina) Margaret
"Sprenches, daughter and heir of John Wynnysber', widow, to Margerie
"Lee, Marie Sprenches, Margaret Tyndale, and Sibella Sandforde, her
"daughters and heirs, of all her domain land in Glaselby, Wadle,
"wynsbed [sic], Plashe, Didston, Heyghley, Wyntre, Espes, Dunkshull,
"Tedstell, of the manor of Over Stanway, le Hambetts of Nether
"Stanway of the manor of Nyngton, Bemyshehall, and lands and
"tenements in Montgomery and the hundred of Chirbury, of Egedon,
"Welston, Breunnslawe in the County of Salop, with all pastures, etc. which
"Margaret Sprenches holds by hereditary right after the death
"of John her father. To hold to the daughters by customary right, of
"the chief lords of the fee".

This document seems to be inconsistent with the theory that Hamlet or his
descendants were heirs of Sir John Winsbury/Wynnesbury.

The manors of Donnington and Stanway had been given, with land in Culshall
and Shakerley, to Dame Margaret's father John Winsbury, son of Henry, by his
uncle by a Quitclaim dated 31st July 1411 (Friday on the Vigil of St. Peter in
Chains 12 Henry IV)

"John son of Robert de Stepulton uncle of John son of Henry de
"Wynnesbury releases to the said John son of Henry, his nephew, and
"his heirs, all claim in the Manor of Donynton otherwise called
"Bewmeshalle near Albrighton and in the Manor of Stanweye near
"Millyngehope, and in all lands, tenements, rents, services &c in the
"same, and in all lands, tenements &c which he has in the townships
"or fields of Culshale and Shakerlowe".

Sir Fulk Sprenchose (variously spelt Sprenches, Sprenchaux, Springhose etc),
Margaret's husband, was Sheriff of Salop in 1447. Their daughter Margery was
married twice, first to Richard Lee of Langley, who died in 1498, and secondly
to Sir William Leighton of Plaishe. The manor of Donnington (alias Bemeshall),
together with the Culshall and Shakerley lands, became part of the property
settled in 1525 on the marriage of her son William Leighton to Dorothy Lacon,
daughter of Thomas Lacon/Lakyn and his wife Mary Corbet of Moreton Corbett -
see SRO Shakerley papers 1781/2/6: Settlement dated 6th May 17 Henry VIII (1525)

"Scope and Content
"Richard Brereton, knt, Richard Harnage, Esq., Thomas Gyfford, Esq.
"and William Deyson, chaplain, to William Leighton and Dorothee his
"wife.
"
"Recital of indenture of 13 April 11 Henry VIII (1520) by which William
"Leighton granted to Thomas Hord, decd. Richard Brereton and the
"others above the Manor of Donyngton otherwise called Beames Hall
"and lands there etc to the use of Dorothee Lakyn, daughter of Thomas
"Lakyn, Esq., for her life, then to William Leighton and the heirs of his
" body by Dorothee, and in default to the use of the right heirs of William
"Leighton forever, of the chief lords [......]
"Brereton &c now grant to William Leighton, Esq., and Dorothee his wife
"daughter of Thomas Lakyn, Esq., the Manor of Donyngton alias Beames
"Halle, with all lands &c there and in Shakurlow and Culshall and [other
"property] To William and Dorothee and their corporeal heirs, of the chief
"lords; in default to the right heirs of William".

Again the fact of this descent of Donnington and the land in Shakerley and
Culshall to Dame Margaret's descendants seems to support the view that she
was her father's heiress. However I have not yet seen the IPM of William
Wynnesbury, supposedly "of Donnington", and said by Mr O'Connor to be dated 1502,
long after Dame Margery had dealt with Donnington/Bemeshall as her own
inherited property. Can Mr O'Connor throw any light on my darkness?

All comments welcome
MM

Robert O'Connor

Re: Lords of Guilsfield/Wynnesbury

Legg inn av Robert O'Connor » 29 apr 2005 10:49:24

"MM" wrote:

<snip>

Again the fact of this descent of Donnington and the land in Shakerley
and
Culshall to Dame Margaret's descendants seems to support the view that she
was her father's heiress. However I have not yet seen the IPM of William
Wynnesbury, supposedly "of Donnington", and said by Mr O'Connor to be
dated 1502,
long after Dame Margery had dealt with Donnington/Bemeshall as her own
inherited property. Can Mr O'Connor throw any light on my darkness?

The Wynnesbury line as I have shown it is based on the account of the

descent of the manor of Pillaton that appears in VCH Staffs, V, p 119 which
reads as follows:

"...In 1382 John, by then named 'de Pilatenhale', died, and his share of the
manor passed to his cousin William, who died in 1397 holding the whole manor
at a rent of 13s. 4d and was succeeded by his daughter Joan, wife of John de
Wynnesbury. She died in 1450 and was followed by her son Hamlet Wynnesbury
whose son William succeeded in 1473. William died in 1502 when the manor,
held by a rent of 16s, was valued at 30s. His heir was his daughter Alice,
wife of Richard Littleton..."

I haven't viewed the 1502 IPM of William Wynnesbury, but the reference given
in a footnote to the above passage is "Cal Inq p.m. Hen. VII, ii, no 537".

Best wishes
Robert O'Connor

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