Geoffrey Chaucer - humble pie

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Leo van de Pas

Geoffrey Chaucer - humble pie

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 23 apr 2005 08:51:47

Many years ago I made this momentous discovery. Geoffrey Chaucer was an ancestor of a member of the British Royal Family!!! I made a chart showing this link and sent it to the Society of Genealogists in London. I received a very kind note from Mr. Anthony Camp saying "Sorry you are wrong!! There is one link that doesn't work and I will send you an article by Sir Iain Moncreiffe of that Ilk which says so." I received the article but the way how it reads to me is that he supports the link, says so and quotes Pere Anselme as his source. Then I found that ES also shows this link. And so I felt vindicated, this link works and Geoffrey Chaucer has many descendants today.

I even sent a file to Brigitte Gastel Lloyd for her to put on her website. But now, in comes Brad Verity asking awkward questions (thank goodness)!! He tested the waters and even found the proper Pere Anselme entry. What did he say? Anne was a daughter of the Duke of Suffolk, nothing more, nothing about the mother. There are no contemporary sources which give more than one child to Alice Chaucer, the wife of that Duke. To do the right thing, I have disconnected in my data base the connection but not as yet on my website, as I must accept that Alice Chaucer had only one child, never mind how many children her husband has fathered.

And so, no present day descendants for Geoffrey Chaucer........this is what I told Brad Verity who then said that one of the de La Pole's had an illegitimate child with descendants to the present. That link is not as yet rock solid but is good enough to be accepted. I looked and I already had that illegitimate child recorded. What is more, that lines goes to a gateway ancestor for Canada!! And so most likely there are descendants till today for Geoffrey Chaucer, and I would love to know more about them.

Does anyone have details about descendants of Louis de Buade, Comte de Palluau et de Frontenac born in 1620 and died 28 November 1698 near Quebec?

With Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

Renia

Re: Geoffrey Chaucer - humble pie

Legg inn av Renia » 23 apr 2005 19:54:13

Paul K Davis wrote:

How great to have someone such as Leo correspond in this group, who cares
primarily to find the truth, whether or not that involves pointing out his
own past errors and perigrinations.

-- PKD [Paul K Davis, pkd-gm@earthlink.net]

I agree. It must be a difficult thing to maintain so large a database as
Leo has, and be able to keep up with new developments and changes of
theory.

Renia




[Original Message]
From: Leo van de Pas <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Date: 4/22/2005 10:51:29 PM
Subject: Geoffrey Chaucer - humble pie

Many years ago I made this momentous discovery. Geoffrey Chaucer was an

ancestor of a member of the British Royal Family!!! I made a chart showing
this link and sent it to the Society of Genealogists in London. I received
a very kind note from Mr. Anthony Camp saying "Sorry you are wrong!! There
is one link that doesn't work and I will send you an article by Sir Iain
Moncreiffe of that Ilk which says so." I received the article but the way
how it reads to me is that he supports the link, says so and quotes Pere
Anselme as his source. Then I found that ES also shows this link. And so I
felt vindicated, this link works and Geoffrey Chaucer has many descendants
today.

I even sent a file to Brigitte Gastel Lloyd for her to put on her

website. But now, in comes Brad Verity asking awkward questions (thank
goodness)!! He tested the waters and even found the proper Pere Anselme
entry. What did he say? Anne was a daughter of the Duke of Suffolk,
nothing more, nothing about the mother. There are no contemporary sources
which give more than one child to Alice Chaucer, the wife of that Duke. To
do the right thing, I have disconnected in my data base the connection but
not as yet on my website, as I must accept that Alice Chaucer had only one
child, never mind how many children her husband has fathered.

And so, no present day descendants for Geoffrey Chaucer........this is

what I told Brad Verity who then said that one of the de La Pole's had an
illegitimate child with descendants to the present. That link is not as yet
rock solid but is good enough to be accepted. I looked and I already had
that illegitimate child recorded. What is more, that lines goes to a
gateway ancestor for Canada!! And so most likely there are descendants till
today for Geoffrey Chaucer, and I would love to know more about them.

Does anyone have details about descendants of Louis de Buade, Comte de

Palluau et de Frontenac born in 1620 and died 28 November 1698 near Quebec?

With Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia


Paul K Davis

RE: Geoffrey Chaucer - humble pie

Legg inn av Paul K Davis » 23 apr 2005 20:13:52

How great to have someone such as Leo correspond in this group, who cares
primarily to find the truth, whether or not that involves pointing out his
own past errors and perigrinations.

-- PKD [Paul K Davis, pkd-gm@earthlink.net]


[Original Message]
From: Leo van de Pas <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Date: 4/22/2005 10:51:29 PM
Subject: Geoffrey Chaucer - humble pie

Many years ago I made this momentous discovery. Geoffrey Chaucer was an
ancestor of a member of the British Royal Family!!! I made a chart showing

this link and sent it to the Society of Genealogists in London. I received
a very kind note from Mr. Anthony Camp saying "Sorry you are wrong!! There
is one link that doesn't work and I will send you an article by Sir Iain
Moncreiffe of that Ilk which says so." I received the article but the way
how it reads to me is that he supports the link, says so and quotes Pere
Anselme as his source. Then I found that ES also shows this link. And so I
felt vindicated, this link works and Geoffrey Chaucer has many descendants
today.
I even sent a file to Brigitte Gastel Lloyd for her to put on her
website. But now, in comes Brad Verity asking awkward questions (thank

goodness)!! He tested the waters and even found the proper Pere Anselme
entry. What did he say? Anne was a daughter of the Duke of Suffolk,
nothing more, nothing about the mother. There are no contemporary sources
which give more than one child to Alice Chaucer, the wife of that Duke. To
do the right thing, I have disconnected in my data base the connection but
not as yet on my website, as I must accept that Alice Chaucer had only one
child, never mind how many children her husband has fathered.
And so, no present day descendants for Geoffrey Chaucer........this is
what I told Brad Verity who then said that one of the de La Pole's had an

illegitimate child with descendants to the present. That link is not as yet
rock solid but is good enough to be accepted. I looked and I already had
that illegitimate child recorded. What is more, that lines goes to a
gateway ancestor for Canada!! And so most likely there are descendants till
today for Geoffrey Chaucer, and I would love to know more about them.
Does anyone have details about descendants of Louis de Buade, Comte de
Palluau et de Frontenac born in 1620 and died 28 November 1698 near Quebec?

With Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

Leo van de Pas

Re: Geoffrey Chaucer - humble pie

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 23 apr 2005 23:55:17

Dear Paul and Renia,

Thank you for your kind words. I do not feel foolish to admit to having made
mistakes. It would be foolish to pretend I don't make any, or cling to wrong
information.

My biggest problem is time, time to do all the things I would like to do.
For instance I started out with ES four volumes by Isenburg/Loringhoven.
Since then I have gradually collected most of the Schwennicke version, but I
have just not had the time to go over the Isenburg entries to see what
Schwennicke gives, as Schwennicke has amended and added a great deal. That
is why I appreciate it when people point out discrepancies or simply by
asking questions and make me go over some details again.

Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Renia" <renia@DELETEotenet.gr>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: Geoffrey Chaucer - humble pie


Paul K Davis wrote:

How great to have someone such as Leo correspond in this group, who
cares
primarily to find the truth, whether or not that involves pointing out
his
own past errors and perigrinations.

-- PKD [Paul K Davis, pkd-gm@earthlink.net]

I agree. It must be a difficult thing to maintain so large a database as
Leo has, and be able to keep up with new developments and changes of
theory.

Renia





[Original Message]
From: Leo van de Pas <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Date: 4/22/2005 10:51:29 PM
Subject: Geoffrey Chaucer - humble pie

Many years ago I made this momentous discovery. Geoffrey Chaucer was an

ancestor of a member of the British Royal Family!!! I made a chart
showing
this link and sent it to the Society of Genealogists in London. I
received
a very kind note from Mr. Anthony Camp saying "Sorry you are wrong!!
There
is one link that doesn't work and I will send you an article by Sir Iain
Moncreiffe of that Ilk which says so." I received the article but the
way
how it reads to me is that he supports the link, says so and quotes Pere
Anselme as his source. Then I found that ES also shows this link. And so
I
felt vindicated, this link works and Geoffrey Chaucer has many
descendants
today.

I even sent a file to Brigitte Gastel Lloyd for her to put on her

website. But now, in comes Brad Verity asking awkward questions (thank
goodness)!! He tested the waters and even found the proper Pere Anselme
entry. What did he say? Anne was a daughter of the Duke of Suffolk,
nothing more, nothing about the mother. There are no contemporary
sources
which give more than one child to Alice Chaucer, the wife of that Duke.
To
do the right thing, I have disconnected in my data base the connection
but
not as yet on my website, as I must accept that Alice Chaucer had only
one
child, never mind how many children her husband has fathered.

And so, no present day descendants for Geoffrey Chaucer........this is

what I told Brad Verity who then said that one of the de La Pole's had
an
illegitimate child with descendants to the present. That link is not as
yet
rock solid but is good enough to be accepted. I looked and I already had
that illegitimate child recorded. What is more, that lines goes to a
gateway ancestor for Canada!! And so most likely there are descendants
till
today for Geoffrey Chaucer, and I would love to know more about them.

Does anyone have details about descendants of Louis de Buade, Comte de

Palluau et de Frontenac born in 1620 and died 28 November 1698 near
Quebec?

With Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia



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