Sir Hugh Longland and Margaret de Furneaux

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Sir Hugh Longland and Margaret de Furneaux

Legg inn av Gjest » 18 apr 2005 23:17:00

First time poster so please be gentle with me!
Can anyone help me sort out the relationship between Sir Hugh and
Margaret as I getting very confused.

From what I have been able to find from reading the archives of this
group, and online trees, this is what I have:


Nicholas Longland Mathew de Furneaux
b.abt 1270 South Brent.Som =
d. April 1312 Matilda/Maud Raleigh
Sheriff of Somerset |
|
Sir Hugh Longland married Margaret de Furneaux =1.John
Beaupre
b.c.1295 b.c.1295 Ashington.Som
d. aft 1353 still living 1330/1
Sheriff of Somerset | |
John Longland married Isabel Beaupre.
|
Joane Longland
=1.
John Roynon
MP for somerset 1372
=2.
Robert Yevoelton;Knt


Was there two Margaret de Furneaux's? As it stands like this, John and
Isabel are half brother and sister, and then they married!
Did Sir Hugh have a first wife maybe?
Many thanks in advance for any help.
Lynne

Leo van de Pas

Re: Sir Hugh Longland and Margaret de Furneaux

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 19 apr 2005 00:51:04

Dear Lynne,

If I follow your tree correctly, they are not half-brother and -sister, only
step-brother and -sister, because his father married her mother and when
these married John Longland and Isabel Beaupre were already born. I agree
John's father must have been married before.
The marriage of a half-brother and -sister would never be allowed.
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Sir Hugh Longland and Margaret de Furneaux


First time poster so please be gentle with me!
Can anyone help me sort out the relationship between Sir Hugh and
Margaret as I getting very confused.

From what I have been able to find from reading the archives of this
group, and online trees, this is what I have:

Nicholas Longland Mathew de Furneaux
b.abt 1270 South Brent.Som =
d. April 1312 Matilda/Maud Raleigh
Sheriff of Somerset |
|
Sir Hugh Longland married Margaret de Furneaux =1.John
Beaupre
b.c.1295 b.c.1295 Ashington.Som
d. aft 1353 still living 1330/1
Sheriff of Somerset | |
John Longland married Isabel Beaupre.
|
Joane Longland
=1.
John Roynon
MP for somerset 1372
=2.
Robert Yevoelton;Knt


Was there two Margaret de Furneaux's? As it stands like this, John and
Isabel are half brother and sister, and then they married!
Did Sir Hugh have a first wife maybe?
Many thanks in advance for any help.
Lynne



Douglas Richardson royala

Re: Sir Hugh Longland and Margaret de Furneaux

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson royala » 19 apr 2005 01:17:44

Dear Lynne ~

Your ancestress, Joan Longland, wife of Robert Yevelton, Knt., and John
Roynon, is one of the lineal co-heirs of Isabel, wife of Richard Fitz
Ives, Knt., of Degembris (in Newlyn East), Cornwall. Isabel Fitz Ives
in turn is allegedly an illegitimate daughter of King John of England.
For particulars on Isabel Fitz Ives and the Plantagenet family, see my
book, Plantagenet Ancestry (2004). For information on the Longland,
Beaupre, and Fitz Ives families, I recommend you consult the sources
listed below.

Good luck in your sleuthing!

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

+ + + + + + + + + + + +
LIST OF SOURCES:

1. Collectanea Top. et Gen. 1 (1834): 243-248.

2. Benolte, Vis. of Somerset 1531, 1573 & 1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux
pedigree).

3. Weaver, Somerset Medieval Wills 1 (1901): 61-62, 66-67.

4. Stawell, A Quantock Fam. (1910): 44-45, 278-280 (Fitzive arms:
Gules, a bend between 6 lozenges [or fusils] or).

5. Chancery Miscellanea Vol. III (List & Index Soc. 26) (1967): 255.

6. Dunning, Hylle Cartulary (Somerset Rec. Soc. 68) (1968): 62.

7. Roskell, House of Commons 1386-1421 3 (1992): 265-267 (biog. of
Leonard Hakluyt)].

8. Polsue, Complete Parochial Hist. of Cornwall 4 (1872): 76.

9. Herald & Genealogist, 7 (1873): 229-231 (Isabel styled "filie
Regis Joh'is").

10. Maclean, Hist. of the Deanery of Trigg Minor 1 (1876): 317.

11. Vivian, Vis. of Cornwall (1887): 30.

12. Rowe & Tapley-Soper, Cornwall Feet of Fines 1 (Devon & Cornwall
Rec. Soc. 1914a) (1914): 17, 49, 54-55, 58-59, 91-92, 171,
438-440.

13. Reg. of Edward the Black Prince 2 (1931): 113, 120.

14. Curia Regis Rolls 11 (1955): 473; 12 (1957): 189; 18 (1999):
362-363.

15. NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102.

16. Harleian Ms. 4031: ff.76b, 81.


linny...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
First time poster so please be gentle with me!
Can anyone help me sort out the relationship between Sir Hugh and
Margaret as I getting very confused.

From what I have been able to find from reading the archives of this
group, and online trees, this is what I have:

Nicholas Longland Mathew de Furneaux
b.abt 1270 South Brent.Som =
d. April 1312 Matilda/Maud Raleigh
Sheriff of Somerset |
|
Sir Hugh Longland married Margaret de Furneaux
=1.John
Beaupre
b.c.1295 b.c.1295 Ashington.Som
d. aft 1353 still living 1330/1
Sheriff of Somerset | |
John Longland married Isabel
Beaupre.
|
Joane Longland
=1.
John Roynon
MP for somerset 1372
=2.
Robert Yevoelton;Knt


Was there two Margaret de Furneaux's? As it stands like this, John
and
Isabel are half brother and sister, and then they married!
Did Sir Hugh have a first wife maybe?
Many thanks in advance for any help.
Lynne

Gordon Kirkemo

RE: Sir Hugh Longland and Margaret de Furneaux

Legg inn av Gordon Kirkemo » 19 apr 2005 01:31:01

Lynne,

Try checking the archives for 2003. My records show that Doug Richardson
posted on this line showing that Isabel Beaupre was the daughter of Ralph
Beaupre and Margaret Sergeaux. I don't have the posting in front of me, but
Doug may have included his sources.

I hope this helps.

Gordon Kirkemo

-----Original Message-----
From: linnybin@slingshot.co.nz [mailto:linnybin@slingshot.co.nz]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:17 PM
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Sir Hugh Longland and Margaret de Furneaux

First time poster so please be gentle with me!
Can anyone help me sort out the relationship between Sir Hugh and
Margaret as I getting very confused.

From what I have been able to find from reading the archives of this
group, and online trees, this is what I have:


Nicholas Longland Mathew de Furneaux
b.abt 1270 South Brent.Som =
d. April 1312 Matilda/Maud Raleigh
Sheriff of Somerset |
|
Sir Hugh Longland married Margaret de Furneaux =1.John
Beaupre
b.c.1295 b.c.1295 Ashington.Som
d. aft 1353 still living 1330/1
Sheriff of Somerset | |
John Longland married Isabel Beaupre.
|
Joane Longland
=1.
John Roynon
MP for somerset 1372
=2.
Robert Yevoelton;Knt


Was there two Margaret de Furneaux's? As it stands like this, John and
Isabel are half brother and sister, and then they married!
Did Sir Hugh have a first wife maybe?
Many thanks in advance for any help.
Lynne

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