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Implications of Genographic Project on Medieval Genealogy

Legg inn av CED » 13 apr 2005 15:19:40

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CNN reports the launch of the Genographic Project, a five-year genetic
anthropology study designed to chart the migratory history of humans,
and help fill in the blanks of how and where people moved to populate
the planet.

The goal is to sample DNA from people all over the world, both
indigenous populations and the general public. They want everybody to
have a chance to participate in this, because it is really the story of
everybody.

The study is counting on people around the world who are using the
Internet to connect with relatives around the world, using a variety of
genealogy programs.

The Genographic Project could take that a step farther, adding DNA
details to the available information.

What are the implications of this project for medieval genealogy?

CED

Doug McDonald

Re: Implications of Genographic Project on Medieval Genealog

Legg inn av Doug McDonald » 13 apr 2005 17:24:58

CED wrote:

To the list:

CNN reports the launch of the Genographic Project


What are the implications of this project for medieval genealogy?


Hard to tell, but probably none, since they are not releasing
genealogically useful data.

For those interested in DNA as applied to genealogy, see the
Rootsweb mailing list genealogy-dna. There you will learn
everything there is to know.

Doug McDonald

Gjest

Re: Implications of Genographic Project on Medieval Genealog

Legg inn av Gjest » 13 apr 2005 17:51:02

I don't believe this to be the case. The report I heard stated that they
*only* wanted DNA from indigenous peoples, as there is no guarentee that the
general public has stayed in one spot for hundreds to thousands of years in order
to show "migratory patterns". I believe they are looking for *ancient*
patterns, not modern ones.
As such it should have no bearing on Medieval genealogy, except *possibly*
the very earliest non-Roman-area genealogy (since the Romans roamed about).
Will

In a message dated 4/13/2005 7:29:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
leesmyth@cox.net writes:


The goal is to sample DNA from people all over the world, both
indigenous populations and the general public. They want everybody to
have a chance to participate in this, because it is really the story of
everybody.

Dora Smith

Re: Implications of Genographic Project on Medieval Genealog

Legg inn av Dora Smith » 14 apr 2005 16:21:01

Tehre have been a number of studies of this nature. They variously look at
mitochondrial and Y chromosome DNA, with subtly different results.

All show that people have tended to move through Europe in a general
direction from the Near East toward Northwestern Europe.

One sort of study finds a much higher proportion of Old Europeans (like the
Basques) in England and other parts of western Europe than the other sort.

The studies basically find that there was an Indo-European migration, which
did take place in waves - but that the most important migration coincided
with the spread of early agriculture out of the ancient Near East.

These studies really aren't specific enough to help people or even classes
of people like aristocracy with their genealogical problems.

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, Texas
villandra@austin.rr.com
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To the list:

CNN reports the launch of the Genographic Project, a five-year genetic
anthropology study designed to chart the migratory history of humans,
and help fill in the blanks of how and where people moved to populate
the planet.

The goal is to sample DNA from people all over the world, both
indigenous populations and the general public. They want everybody to
have a chance to participate in this, because it is really the story of
everybody.

The study is counting on people around the world who are using the
Internet to connect with relatives around the world, using a variety of
genealogy programs.

The Genographic Project could take that a step farther, adding DNA
details to the available information.

What are the implications of this project for medieval genealogy?

CED

DNAmateur

Re: Implications of Genographic Project on Medieval Genealog

Legg inn av DNAmateur » 14 apr 2005 19:51:32

WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
I don't believe this to be the case. The report I heard stated that
they
*only* wanted DNA from indigenous peoples,

The Genographic Project pages on the National Geographic website are
pushing a "public participation" $99.95 test kit (combined mtDNA &
Y-chromosome).

But.... there is NO mention of how many markers will be tested, of
whether any results will be incorporated into the rest of the
Project.... and thre is NO provision for identifying the "public
participation" samples as regards ethnic/racial origin.

So it sounds like they're running that part of the Project purely as a
fundraiser to help defray their "real" interests. (Eh, maybe they'll
call up interesting variants & ask for background information on THEM?)

I just wonder if the tests will be worth the bandwidth (your results
will only be available online) used to display them. I contacted
National Geographic, they had NO idea re how many markers are to be
tested for.... and no contact info for Spencer Wells or the Genographic
Project staff.

DNAmateur.

as there is no guarentee that the
general public has stayed in one spot for hundreds to thousands of
years in order
to show "migratory patterns". I believe they are looking for
*ancient*
patterns, not modern ones.
As such it should have no bearing on Medieval genealogy, except
*possibly*
the very earliest non-Roman-area genealogy (since the Romans roamed
about).
Will

In a message dated 4/13/2005 7:29:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
leesmyth@cox.net writes:


The goal is to sample DNA from people all over the world, both
indigenous populations and the general public. They want everybody
to
have a chance to participate in this, because it is really the
story of
everybody.

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