Location of an IPM

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Mark B

Location of an IPM

Legg inn av Mark B » 01 apr 2005 05:16:02

Would it be particularly uncommon for an IPM dated
1533 to exist in a collection of family papers in a
county record office but not appear in the National
Archives' Catalogue (formerly PROCAT)?

Specifically, an IPM for Richard or John Brisco
supposedly is in the collection of the Cumbria Record
Office in Carlisle, but I can find no evidence that
it's in the National Archives at Kew.



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Chris Phillips

Re: Location of an IPM

Legg inn av Chris Phillips » 01 apr 2005 09:41:00

Mark B wrote:
Would it be particularly uncommon for an IPM dated
1533 to exist in a collection of family papers in a
county record office but not appear in the National
Archives' Catalogue (formerly PROCAT)?

Specifically, an IPM for Richard or John Brisco
supposedly is in the collection of the Cumbria Record
Office in Carlisle, but I can find no evidence that
it's in the National Archives at Kew.


I thought this rang a vague bell and found your previous query about this in
2001, in which you posted the entry recording the commission:
<<
An entry in -Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic,
of the Reign of Henry VIII- under "Grants in October
1533" reads: "Cumberland: Tho. Salkeld, Tho.
Blenkynsop, and Ric. a Bewley. Commission to make
inquisition p.m. on the lands and heir of John a
Briscoo and Ric. a Briscoo. Westm., 14 Oct.--Pat.25Hen
VIII. p. 2, m. 28."

I'm pleased to hear that you've managed to track down a copy of the
inquisition at Carlisle.

I think it must be unusual for the inquisition to have survived in private
hands but not at the National Archives, but on the other hand the commission
to Salkeld, Blenkynsop and Bewley seems unusual in itself. The inquisition
would normally have been authorised by a writ directed to te escheator of
the county in question.

In the previous discussion, Chris Dickinson pointed out that a couple of
generations before Thomas Blenkinsop had married Margaret, daughter and
coheir of Sir Richard Salkeld. Perhaps the explanation for the inquisition's
absence from the public records is that it was an exceptional procedure
carried out for unusual reasons, rather than one of the regular series done
by the escheator. It would be interesting to know which collection at
Carlisle contains the inquisition - perhaps the papers of the Salkelds or
their successors?

Chris Phillips

Mark B

Re: Location of an IPM

Legg inn av Mark B » 02 apr 2005 02:31:02

Chris,

Thanks for your reply. I received the CRO document
today (a part of their collection of Brisco family
papers). As it turns out, the document is the crown's
commission for the IPM rather than the IPM itself. I
was misled because the CRO finding aid describes it as
"Inquisition Post Mortem of John and Richard Brisco,
1533."

So, it appears I'm back where I was in 2001.

Mark Briscoe


--- Chris Phillips <cgp@medievalgenealogy.org.uk>
wrote:
Mark B wrote:
Would it be particularly uncommon for an IPM dated
1533 to exist in a collection of family papers in
a
county record office but not appear in the
National
Archives' Catalogue (formerly PROCAT)?

Specifically, an IPM for Richard or John Brisco
supposedly is in the collection of the Cumbria
Record
Office in Carlisle, but I can find no evidence
that
it's in the National Archives at Kew.


I thought this rang a vague bell and found your
previous query about this in
2001, in which you posted the entry recording the
commission:

An entry in -Letters and Papers, Foreign and
Domestic,
of the Reign of Henry VIII- under "Grants in October
1533" reads: "Cumberland: Tho. Salkeld, Tho.
Blenkynsop, and Ric. a Bewley. Commission to make
inquisition p.m. on the lands and heir of John a
Briscoo and Ric. a Briscoo. Westm., 14
Oct.--Pat.25Hen
VIII. p. 2, m. 28."


I'm pleased to hear that you've managed to track
down a copy of the
inquisition at Carlisle.

I think it must be unusual for the inquisition to
have survived in private
hands but not at the National Archives, but on the
other hand the commission
to Salkeld, Blenkynsop and Bewley seems unusual in
itself. The inquisition
would normally have been authorised by a writ
directed to te escheator of
the county in question.

In the previous discussion, Chris Dickinson pointed
out that a couple of
generations before Thomas Blenkinsop had married
Margaret, daughter and
coheir of Sir Richard Salkeld. Perhaps the
explanation for the inquisition's
absence from the public records is that it was an
exceptional procedure
carried out for unusual reasons, rather than one of
the regular series done
by the escheator. It would be interesting to know
which collection at
Carlisle contains the inquisition - perhaps the
papers of the Salkelds or
their successors?

Chris Phillips







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