"Direct Descendant" And "Collateral Ancestor"

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D. Spencer Hines

"Direct Descendant" And "Collateral Ancestor"

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 25 mar 2005 20:40:02

Good!

We have put paid to this silly-buggers, sophistic, little linguistic
contretemps and red herring -- having nothing whatsoever to do with
Genealogy.

It has been scotched.

Further, John Steele Gordon, AKA 'Gordo The Clown' of SGM, has crawled
back into his hole in North Salem, New York -- and shut his pie hole --
thereby ending the continuous stream of disingenuous and duplicitous
sophistry we saw flowing from it -- like unto a ruptured Main Sewer Pipe
under a major New York City Thoroughfare.

God's On His Throne....

And:

All's Well That Ends Well....

Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

DSH
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Excellent Point by WAR....

Vide infra.

Let's get back to GENEALOGY and away from the silly-buggers, irrelevant
chatter about LINGUISTICS -- another field entirely.

Genealogists are certainly allowed, indeed ENCOURAGED, to develop their
own terms of art, professional vocabulary and discrete, well-formulated
language befitting the work they do -- just as in any other PROFESSION.

That is the Principal Error Gordo The Clown is making -- and continuing
to beat the drum about -- and it leads to yet another PRATFALL for John
Steele Gordon ---- one in a long and continuing series of such amusing
PRATFALLS on SGM.

KAWHOMP!!!

KERSPLAT!!!

The fact that the General Public may use the words ANCESTOR and
DESCENDANT in a very sloppy, generic and casual way has nothing
whatsoever to do with how WE as GENEALOGISTS, whether Professionals or
Amateurs, should be using those words.

For Genealogists in 2005 the words ANCESTOR and DESCENDANT require a
direct, genetic link. ******

Therefore a competent Genealogist, whether Professional or Amateur,
should never use oxymorons or gibberish such as the amusing compounds
"DIRECT DESCENDANT" or "COLLATERAL ANCESTOR" -- as, for the
genealogically literate, ALL ancestors are DIRECT, NOT "Collateral" and
ALL descendants are DIRECT -- NEVER "Indirect".

Gordo has roundly confused GENEALOGY with LINGUISTICS, mixed in a
generous component of PURE SOPHISTRY and DEMAGOGUERY, such as his
hilarious Red Herring about Columbus and the American Indians, spiced up
the mix with a bit of Creative Charlatanry and Seductive
Intimidation ---- and then presented the credible, sometimes gullible,
members of SGM with a pot of sophistic drivel -- improperly confusing
GENEALOGY and LINGUISTICS -- two quite separate disciplines.

However, the entire charade has been Great Fun to watch ---- as Gordo
plays the clown, his assigned role on SGM, confuses a number of gullible
and naive people in the process -- and poisons the well for clarity,
conciseness and coherence in Genealogy for a few more years -- and
thousands of other people.

But, now that Gordo has had his fun and has entertained us all, it's
time for him to wipe off the grease paint, take off the bulbous nose and
the fright wig and get back to his regular scribbling for Forbes
Magazine.

Yes, let's get back to GENEALOGY ---- and let those who want to play
games with LINGUISTICS gravitate to a LINGUISTICS group -- where they
can play with words, make mud pies and throw them at each other,
demagogue to their little hearts' content and play the clown 'til they
drop from exhaustion.

How Sweet It Is!

Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

Deus Vult.

"The final happiness of man consists in the contemplation of truth....
This is sought for its own sake, and is directed to no other end beyond
itself." Saint Thomas Aquinas, [1224/5-1274] "Summa Contra Gentiles"
[c.1258-1264]

"Populus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur. Odi profanum vulgus et arceo."

Quintus Aurelius Stultus [33 B.C. - 42 A.D.]

Prosecutio stultitiae est gravis vexatio, executio stultitiae coronat
opus.

D. Spencer Hines

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Vires et Honor

<WmAddams@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:56:48 -0500, "John Steele Gordon"
| <ancestry@optonline.net> wrote:
|
| >No, I am simply trying to get across an elementary point of
| >LINGUISTICS that you will not listen to.
|
| Since this is a forum for genealogy, not linguistics, could you please
| take the rest of this discussion somewhere else?

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