Diarmaid Mac Murrough

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Leo van de Pas

Diarmaid Mac Murrough

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 11 mar 2005 11:50:02

I understand he was born in 1100 and died 1 January 1171 at Ferns, county Wexford.

Then I found a description how in 1132 he burned down the Abbey of Kildare, raped the Abbess and become king of Leinster.

Then about 1167 "having been deposed" he asks Henry II of England for support, Richard de Clare 'Strongbow' comes and marries Diarmaid's daughter.

Is there anything more known about him? I understand he was deposed because he had helped himself to the wife of another Irish king (which one?).

Can anyone add to the life of Diarmaid?

Many thanks.
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

Gjest

Re: Diarmaid Mac Murrough

Legg inn av Gjest » 11 mar 2005 12:03:10

The woman he made off with was none other than Devorgilla, the wife of
Tiernan O'Rourke.

Gjest

Re: Diarmaid Mac Murrough

Legg inn av Gjest » 11 mar 2005 15:51:03

You could try Edmund Curtis' _A History of Medieval Ireland_ (1923) where
there is quite a bit about Diarmaid.

I don't have the time to look at this in detail, but if you cannot obtain the
above, let me know, and I will check for further details,

in haste, regards,
Adrian


understand he was born in 1100 and died 1 January 1171 at Ferns, county
Wexford.

Then I found a description how in 1132 he burned down the Abbey of Kildare,
raped the Abbess and become king of Leinster.

Then about 1167 "having been deposed" he asks Henry II of England for
support, Richard de Clare 'Strongbow' comes and marries Diarmaid's daughter.

Is there anything more known about him? I understand he was deposed because
he had helped himself to the wife of another Irish king (which one?).

Can anyone add to the life of Diarmaid?

Many thanks.
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia


Derek Howard

Re: Diarmaid Mac Murrough

Legg inn av Derek Howard » 11 mar 2005 20:39:06

leovdpas@netspeed.com.au ("Leo van de Pas") wrote in message news:<001301c52628$5f0900a0$c3b4fea9@email>...
I understand he was born in 1100 and died 1 January 1171 at Ferns, county Wexford.

Then I found a description how in 1132 he burned down the Abbey of Kildare, raped the Abbess and become king of Leinster.

Then about 1167 "having been deposed" he asks Henry II of England for support, Richard de Clare 'Strongbow' comes and marries Diarmaid's daughter.

Is there anything more known about him? I understand he was deposed because he had helped himself to the wife of another Irish king (which one?).

Can anyone add to the life of Diarmaid?

It is over 25 years since I last put it away on my shelf so I shall
not ty to summarise here but you should try to read Nicholas Furlong:
"Dermot, King of Leinster and the Foreigners", Tralee, 1973; and also
the first chapters of J F Lydon: "The Lordship of Ireland in the
Middle Ages", Dublin, 1972.

Derek Howard

Jean-François BLANC

Re: Diarmaid Mac Murrough

Legg inn av Jean-François BLANC » 12 mar 2005 15:10:46

Leo,

Robert Brian Stewart website has a lot of data about Diarmaid's
ascendancy, but it's difficult to sort out the historical and the
legendary.
See URL http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cousin/h ... .htm#i6786

Best regards,

Joan-Frances Blanc


On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 21:52:07 +1100, Leo van de Pas
<leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote:
I understand he was born in 1100 and died 1 January 1171 at Ferns, county Wexford.

Then I found a description how in 1132 he burned down the Abbey of Kildare, raped the Abbess and become king of Leinster.

Then about 1167 "having been deposed" he asks Henry II of England for support, Richard de Clare 'Strongbow' comes and marries Diarmaid's daughter.

Is there anything more known about him? I understand he was deposed because he had helped himself to the wife of another Irish king (which one?).

Can anyone add to the life of Diarmaid?

Many thanks.
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia


Gjest

Re: Diarmaid Mac Murrough

Legg inn av Gjest » 12 mar 2005 16:28:18

In a message dated 3/12/2005 8:11:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jfblanc@gmail.com writes:

but it's difficult to sort out the historical and the
legendary.




Isn't this true for any person from over a thousand years ago?

Gordon Hale
Grand Prairie, Texas

Matthew Harley

Re: Diarmaid Mac Murrough

Legg inn av Matthew Harley » 12 mar 2005 22:51:46

Leo van de Pas wrote:
I understand he was born in 1100 and died 1 January 1171 at Ferns, county Wexford.

Then I found a description how in 1132 he burned down the Abbey of Kildare, raped the Abbess and become king of Leinster.

Then about 1167 "having been deposed" he asks Henry II of England for support, Richard de Clare 'Strongbow' comes and marries Diarmaid's daughter.

Is there anything more known about him? I understand he was deposed because he had helped himself to the wife of another Irish king (which one?).

Can anyone add to the life of Diarmaid?

Try a Google with: "Dermot MacMurrough".

You will find lots of stuff.

As to quality, that's another question.

If you type "Norman Ireland" into Amazon's book search you
will find a wealth of publications dealing with MacMurrough.

Matt Harley

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