Stealing people's research (YES, OT)

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Stealing people's research (YES, OT)

Legg inn av Gjest » 26 feb 2005 05:26:42

How can people take your research which you have published in an
article and then in turn submit it without asking your permission to an
online "world tree" site? Why do people take single lines and submit
them when other children are not represented? Why do people add this
stuff to their databases when these lines are 10th, 11th and God only
knows what cousins? Why, why, why?

Two people took my article, Historic Ancestors: Thomas Hooker, The
Genealogist Vol. 16 (2002):165-7, and submitted it to Ancestry World
Tree without my permission. Thankfully living people were not put on
since that article traces down to myself. One person doesn't cite the
work at all and another cites it as THG 16:165-7 (without the title or
my name).

Am I the only person to find this appalling? Then the cretins
misspelled several place names when typing. So not only is my work
there, but now is incorrect. This happened to me years ago, when I
stupidly shared some information with a distant cousin who in turn
submitted it all to the Ancestral File without my permission. He
screwed up my maternal grandmother's surname and to this day it still
appears incorrect, since no one in Mormonland will correct it.

Golf is less frustrating that genealogy.

gryphon801@aol.com

Re: Stealing people's research (YES, OT)

Legg inn av gryphon801@aol.com » 27 feb 2005 02:54:17

As former editor of _The Genealogist_ I can only regret what happened
to you. Our practice then was to permit an author to retain the right
to republish or revise elsewhere what he submitted, and certainly what
you describe was inappropriate - almost as inappropriate as publishing
the information claiming it as their own without full credit to you as
author or without a full citation to tjhe original source, as some
persons insist on doing. The Association for the Promotion of
Scholarship in Genealogy [APSG], former publisher of _The Genealogist_,
has gladly given permission, for example, for submissions by the late
Charles Evans to appear in their republication of his material. But we
were asked for permission. You should have been asked.

Tim Powys-Lybbe

Re: Stealing people's research (YES, OT)

Legg inn av Tim Powys-Lybbe » 27 feb 2005 09:26:21

In message of 27 Feb, "gryphon801@aol.com" <gryphon801@aol.com> wrote:

As former editor of _The Genealogist_ I can only regret what happened
to you. Our practice then was to permit an author to retain the right
to republish or revise elsewhere what he submitted, and certainly what
you describe was inappropriate - almost as inappropriate as publishing
the information claiming it as their own without full credit to you as
author or without a full citation to tjhe original source, as some
persons insist on doing. The Association for the Promotion of
Scholarship in Genealogy [APSG], former publisher of _The Genealogist_,
has gladly given permission, for example, for submissions by the late
Charles Evans to appear in their republication of his material. But we
were asked for permission. You should have been asked.

It seems that Google has changed its methods so that you are no longer
able to quote what you are replying to. So I can't reply to you as I
can't follow the thread!

However I have been told that the way to use Google's new facilities
for a reply is:

To reply to a post on Google including a quote from what you
are replying to, you have to click on "Options", *then* on "Reply",
not on "Reply" directly. I can't see how anybody could be expected to
know this. Just one of the manyfold delights of "Google Groups Beta".

It would be nice if anyone can report if this is correct.

--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org

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