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Legg inn av Gjest » 21 feb 2005 18:30:02

Peter A. Kincaid wrote:
Will you guys (not just Leanne) at least stop being so
underhanded and devious in trying not to step on their
toes? If you want to promote your books/products just
fess up, have some spine and just do it the upfront way.

I think you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick.

I came across the details of Ruth Blakely's book on the website of her
publishers, thought it might be of interest to people, and posted the
details.

I think Leanne Burroughs was responding to my message, but because of the
way it was laid out misread it as an announcement from the author.

Peter - I'm glad you have so much FAITH in me! Considering I was THANKING Chris for posting about the Brus book, I can't for the life of me how you construed I was ADVERTISING a book I'm still in the PROCESS of researching/writing. If you'll actually LOOK at my post, you'll see I said I couldn't wait to see the Brus book when it came out so I could USE it for research, since that's the stage of my book I'm in!!! Hardly a promotion!!!

Maybe your motives are sneaky and underhanded when you choose to write a post. I assure you MINE weren't. Be assured, I will NEVER bother to thank any of you for anything again. I actually made the mistake of thinking you were here to help people by sharing information. I'll not make the mistake of thinking anyone's motives are pure again.

So, for the last time, please forgive me for thanking Chris for the information (and, God forbid, explaining why it meant so much to me!).

~ Leanne

--
http://www.leanneburroughs.com
President Elect Outreach International
Now Available on Amazon.com - HIGHLAND WISHES
A Scottish Historical Romance - A Winner in the 2004 Published Laurie's

A friend is a person who reaches out to touch your hand, and touches your heart.

Peter A. Kincaid

Re: Brus Book

Legg inn av Peter A. Kincaid » 21 feb 2005 20:30:01

Peter - I'm glad you have so much FAITH in me! Considering I was THANKING
Chris for posting about the Brus book, I can't for the life of me how you
construed I was ADVERTISING a book I'm still in the PROCESS of
researching/writing. If you'll actually LOOK at my post, you'll see I
said I couldn't wait to see the Brus book when it came out so I could USE
it for research, since that's the stage of my book I'm in!!! Hardly a
promotion!!!

Maybe your motives are sneaky and underhanded when you choose to write a
post. I assure you MINE weren't. Be assured, I will NEVER bother to thank
any of you for anything again. I actually made the mistake of thinking you
were here to help people by sharing information. I'll not make the mistake
of thinking anyone's motives are pure again.

So, for the last time, please forgive me for thanking Chris for the
information (and, God forbid, explaining why it meant so much to me!).

~ Leanne

--
http://www.leanneburroughs.com
President Elect Outreach International
Now Available on Amazon.com - HIGHLAND WISHES
A Scottish Historical Romance - A Winner in the 2004 Published Laurie's

A friend is a person who reaches out to touch your hand, and touches your
heart.


What exactly is your reasoning for adding the above "Now Available on
Amazon.com - HIGHLAND WISHES"? Who wrote Highland Wishes? If
you wanted to thank Chris you could have sent him a private email. Otherwise
you will have to accept the reactions to your signature block that myself
or anyone else might have. If you look at my original message you will
note that I was addressing this to not just you but also others who have the
same approach. I have absolutely no motives for my message other
than being an opinionated person. I am not fond of indirect advertising. Nor
am I fond of sappy pity me messages like the one you just gave. I'm not
out to offend you and wish you the best with your projects. However, if
you take offense with my right to express my discontent with something,
then so be it.

Peter

P.S. Your reply inclined me to respond publicly. I have said me piece
on this and will not add any further fuel to this thread publicly.

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Brus Book

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 21 feb 2005 20:51:01

Oh, Twaddle!

If he wants to tell us about _HIGHLAND WISHES_ in his sigblock, more
power to him.

Take two fingers of brandy in some hot milk and a long nap.

DSH

""Peter A. Kincaid"" <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:6.2.0.14.1.20050221150649.01d1d760@pop1.nb.sympatico.ca...
|
| >Peter - I'm glad you have so much FAITH in me! Considering I was
THANKING
| >Chris for posting about the Brus book, I can't for the life of me how
you
| >construed I was ADVERTISING a book I'm still in the PROCESS of
| >researching/writing. If you'll actually LOOK at my post, you'll see
I
| >said I couldn't wait to see the Brus book when it came out so I could
USE
| >it for research, since that's the stage of my book I'm in!!! Hardly a
| >promotion!!!
| >
| >Maybe your motives are sneaky and underhanded when you choose to
write a
| >post. I assure you MINE weren't. Be assured, I will NEVER bother to
thank
| >any of you for anything again. I actually made the mistake of
thinking you
| >were here to help people by sharing information. I'll not make the
mistake
| >of thinking anyone's motives are pure again.
| >
| >So, for the last time, please forgive me for thanking Chris for the
| >information (and, God forbid, explaining why it meant so much to
me!).
| >
| >~ Leanne
| >
| >--
| >www.leanneburroughs.com
| >President Elect Outreach International
| >Now Available on Amazon.com - HIGHLAND WISHES
| >A Scottish Historical Romance - A Winner in the 2004 Published
Laurie's
| >
| >A friend is a person who reaches out to touch your hand, and touches
your
| >heart.
|
|
| What exactly is your reasoning for adding the above "Now Available on
| Amazon.com - HIGHLAND WISHES"? Who wrote Highland Wishes? If
| you wanted to thank Chris you could have sent him a private email.
Otherwise
| you will have to accept the reactions to your signature block that
myself
| or anyone else might have. If you look at my original message you
will
| note that I was addressing this to not just you but also others who
have the
| same approach. I have absolutely no motives for my message other
| than being an opinionated person. I am not fond of indirect
advertising. Nor
| am I fond of sappy pity me messages like the one you just gave. I'm
not
| out to offend you and wish you the best with your projects. However,
if
| you take offense with my right to express my discontent with
something,
| then so be it.
|
| Peter
|
| P.S. Your reply inclined me to respond publicly. I have said me
piece
| on this and will not add any further fuel to this thread publicly.

Douglas Richardson royala

Re: Brus Book

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson royala » 21 feb 2005 21:29:48

My comments are interspersed below. DR

"Peter A. Kincaid" wrote:

I have absolutely no motives for my message other than being an
opinionated person.

We gathered that already.

However, if you take offense with my right to express my discontent
with something, then so be it.

Such a tactful statement. Guaranteed to offend Leanne once again.

Peter

Below please find Peter's own "direct" request for funding on the
internet. He says it's "up to the person of sample n whether they want
to reply." Does this include the medieval newsgroup posters? Mmmmmmm
....... For $169 you get to talk to Peter A. Kincaid. It seems Peter
is a bit of a hypocrite. I guess he's only fond of advertising when
he's the one doing it. Interesting.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah (a proud
descendant of the Brus family of Scotland).

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

+ + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Source: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~kincaid/dna.htm

This project is open to Kincaids and their variant spellings (ie.
Kinkead, Kincade, Kinkaid, Kinkade, Kincaide, etc.). If you are a male
Kincaid you can contribute your DNA sample as you would have been
passed your Y chromosome DNA from your father who got it from his
father and so on. If you are a female Kincaid then you would not have
the Y chromosome DNA needed for this type of surname project. However,
your line can participate by getting a DNA sample from a male sibling
or from your father or one of his brothers or even one of your male
cousins who are sons of one of your father's brothers. If you don't
carry the Kincaid name but are a Kincaid descendant you can try to get
a male Kincaid who is of the same line as you to participate. You could
also keep an eye out on the results as a participant could emerge who
is closely related to you.

It is a good practice to get a couple of participants for each
patriarch line just in case of a non paternity event. However, one
would not need to get a bunch of first or second cousins tested. The
reason is that the odds of a mutation occuring are slim among those who
share a common grandfather or great grandfather. Instead one could pool
their resources to support a DNA test from a couple of people in their
line so that the individual would not have to pay the full cost of the
test. Everyone in the line will benefit from the test results of near
relatives.

An interested individual contacts Peter A. Kincaid who is the
coordinator. The cost is presently $169.00 U.S. per participant for the
25 marker test and $229 U.S. per participant for the 37 marker test
(plus a couple of dollars for shipping in each case). Once an order is
received, the lab will forward a sample kit to the participant so a
sample of their DNA can be forwarded. Samples will be taken by scraping
the cheeks inside their mouth with a swab. Instructions will be
provided. Included in the package will be an invoice. The participant
can forward payment when they return the kit or call the number on the
invoice to pay by credit card. It can also be arranged for the kit to
be sent to one person but the invoice to another person who is
sponsoring the test. Either way, the participant will return their
sealed sample to the DNA lab for testing. There is typically a 4 to 6
week wait to receive the results of the test. The lab will return the
sequence for each sample to the participant as well as to the project
coordinator. These sequences would be then be added to the database and
forwarded to the participating individuals.

The database would be a list of samples and their associated sequence
and eventually a lineage. If a person is interested in a certain line
they could simply somehow send a message of something to the effect of
seeking to correspond with the person of sample n. It is up to the
person of sample n whether they want to reply.

Leo van de Pas

Re: Brus Book

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 21 feb 2005 22:01:01

How dishonest of Richardson! Maintaining that Peter Kincaid expects $169
'just to talk to him'. What a twisting of words!! Read the message and you
find that a DNA test can be done for $169. I think Richardson is the most
guilty one as far as advertising on gen-med is concerned. How many years has
he advertised, with pre-publishing prices, his Plantagenet Ancestry and now
he has started with his Magna Carta book. Talking about the pot and the
kettle, but in this case the kettle (Peter Kincaid) is not black, only
Richardson is.

----- Original Message -----
From: <royalancestry@msn.com>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Brus Book


My comments are interspersed below. DR

"Peter A. Kincaid" wrote:

I have absolutely no motives for my message other than being an
opinionated person.

We gathered that already.

However, if you take offense with my right to express my discontent
with something, then so be it.

Such a tactful statement. Guaranteed to offend Leanne once again.

Peter

Below please find Peter's own "direct" request for funding on the
internet. He says it's "up to the person of sample n whether they want
to reply." Does this include the medieval newsgroup posters? Mmmmmmm
..... For $169 you get to talk to Peter A. Kincaid. It seems Peter
is a bit of a hypocrite. I guess he's only fond of advertising when
he's the one doing it. Interesting.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah (a proud
descendant of the Brus family of Scotland).

Website: http://www.royalancestry.net

+ + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Source: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~kincaid/dna.htm

This project is open to Kincaids and their variant spellings (ie.
Kinkead, Kincade, Kinkaid, Kinkade, Kincaide, etc.). If you are a male
Kincaid you can contribute your DNA sample as you would have been
passed your Y chromosome DNA from your father who got it from his
father and so on. If you are a female Kincaid then you would not have
the Y chromosome DNA needed for this type of surname project. However,
your line can participate by getting a DNA sample from a male sibling
or from your father or one of his brothers or even one of your male
cousins who are sons of one of your father's brothers. If you don't
carry the Kincaid name but are a Kincaid descendant you can try to get
a male Kincaid who is of the same line as you to participate. You could
also keep an eye out on the results as a participant could emerge who
is closely related to you.

It is a good practice to get a couple of participants for each
patriarch line just in case of a non paternity event. However, one
would not need to get a bunch of first or second cousins tested. The
reason is that the odds of a mutation occuring are slim among those who
share a common grandfather or great grandfather. Instead one could pool
their resources to support a DNA test from a couple of people in their
line so that the individual would not have to pay the full cost of the
test. Everyone in the line will benefit from the test results of near
relatives.

An interested individual contacts Peter A. Kincaid who is the
coordinator. The cost is presently $169.00 U.S. per participant for the
25 marker test and $229 U.S. per participant for the 37 marker test
(plus a couple of dollars for shipping in each case). Once an order is
received, the lab will forward a sample kit to the participant so a
sample of their DNA can be forwarded. Samples will be taken by scraping
the cheeks inside their mouth with a swab. Instructions will be
provided. Included in the package will be an invoice. The participant
can forward payment when they return the kit or call the number on the
invoice to pay by credit card. It can also be arranged for the kit to
be sent to one person but the invoice to another person who is
sponsoring the test. Either way, the participant will return their
sealed sample to the DNA lab for testing. There is typically a 4 to 6
week wait to receive the results of the test. The lab will return the
sequence for each sample to the participant as well as to the project
coordinator. These sequences would be then be added to the database and
forwarded to the participating individuals.

The database would be a list of samples and their associated sequence
and eventually a lineage. If a person is interested in a certain line
they could simply somehow send a message of something to the effect of
seeking to correspond with the person of sample n. It is up to the
person of sample n whether they want to reply.


Gjest

Re: Brus Book

Legg inn av Gjest » 22 feb 2005 13:35:29

Abusive cross-posting *sneck*ed

On 21 Feb 2005 12:29:48 -0800, "Douglas Richardson royalancestry@msn.com"
<royalancestry@msn.com> wrote:

My comments are interspersed below. DR

Can you children please keep your pissing contests in your own sandbox?

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