Dear member of this GM-newsgroup.
I know I am looking for info far before the medieval period, but I do not know where else I can send my question too and hope for a response.
My question:
In order for me to make sure that I insert my correct (as far as possible) ancestors, can someone confirm that Vologases I, II, and III are children of each other?? and thus part of three successive generations, rather than the same names of four Parthian kings?
Here's what I have regarding these four Partnian kings, named: Vologases
Vologases I, King of Parthia. Died AD 77/78, son of the previous king, Vonones II,
by an (unknown te me) Greek(??) concubine.
Vologases I has two brothers: Pacorus and Tiridates
Vologases II , died (174 ??)
Vologases III, King of Parthia (d. 192)
He was succeeded by his son Vologases IV
Vologases IV, King of Parthia in ancient Persia, reigned (191-208/209)
Your reply will be highly appreciated.
Kindest regards,
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Leo Akershoek
My hobbies?
Digging-up my medieval ancestors (before 1200);
VOLOGAESES, kings of PARTHIA, before 200 A.D.
Moderator: MOD_nyhetsgrupper
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Paul K Davis
RE: VOLOGAESES, kings of PARTHIA, before 200 A.D.
Very little is known of the interrelationships of the Parthian rulers.
They seem to have left no coherent history of their own; what we know is
learned from references in the Roman literature, occasional in the
Caucasian literature, oral tradition written down much later, and coins.
The most up-to-date account seems to be at the web site http://www.parthia.com
which has a genealogical table showing the fragments of interrealtionships
we do know.
Beware: that the Vologaeses of Parthia have been numbered in different
ways; that there were apparently two Vologaeses who ruled Armenia who may
or may not be identical with two of those who ruled Parthia; and that there
is disagreement as to how to match the Armenian Arsacids with the Parthians.
-- PKD [Paul K Davis, pkd-gm@earthlink.net]
children of each other?? and thus part of three successive generations,
rather than the same names of four Parthian kings?
They seem to have left no coherent history of their own; what we know is
learned from references in the Roman literature, occasional in the
Caucasian literature, oral tradition written down much later, and coins.
The most up-to-date account seems to be at the web site http://www.parthia.com
which has a genealogical table showing the fragments of interrealtionships
we do know.
Beware: that the Vologaeses of Parthia have been numbered in different
ways; that there were apparently two Vologaeses who ruled Armenia who may
or may not be identical with two of those who ruled Parthia; and that there
is disagreement as to how to match the Armenian Arsacids with the Parthians.
-- PKD [Paul K Davis, pkd-gm@earthlink.net]
[Original Message]
From: l.akershoek <l.akershoek@hccnet.nl
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Date: 1/30/2005 10:30:41 AM
Subject: VOLOGAESES, kings of PARTHIA, before 200 A.D.
Dear member of this GM-newsgroup.
I know I am looking for info far before the medieval period, but I do not
know where else I can send my question too and hope for a response.
My question:
In order for me to make sure that I insert my correct (as far as
possible) ancestors, can someone confirm that Vologases I, II, and III are
children of each other?? and thus part of three successive generations,
rather than the same names of four Parthian kings?
Here's what I have regarding these four Partnian kings, named: Vologases
Vologases I, King of Parthia. Died AD 77/78, son of the previous king,
Vonones II,
by an (unknown te me) Greek(??) concubine.
Vologases I has two brothers: Pacorus and Tiridates
Vologases II , died (174 ??)
Vologases III, King of Parthia (d. 192)
He was succeeded by his son Vologases IV
Vologases IV, King of Parthia in ancient Persia, reigned (191-208/209)
Your reply will be highly appreciated.
Kindest regards,
-\!!/-
{o o}
( _ )
'''''
_ooO0_______0Ooo_
Leo Akershoek
My hobbies?
Digging-up my medieval ancestors (before 1200);
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Matthew Rockefeller
Re: VOLOGAESES, kings of PARTHIA, before 200 A.D.
The lineage you have is incorrect, provably so. I've been doing
research on this line, and, with special thanks to Mommaerts and Prof.
Kelley, I have this based mainly on old Armenian writers:
Vonones II, King of Parthia [AD 51], King of Media [AD 11 - AD 51],
his ancestry is speculated by Settipani
married
a Greek concubine
Vologases I, King of Parthia [AD 51 - AD 77], claimant to Adiabene in
AD 57
married
a daughter of Izat II, King of Adiabene
Meherdates, King of Armenia [AD 76] (d AD 76)
married
Hodda, Princess of Edessa and Armenia
Sanatruk, King of Armenia [AD 77 - AD 109], Edessa [AD 91 - AD 109],
and Adiabene
Vologases III, King of Parthia [108, 130 - 147] and Armenia [117 - 140]
(d 147)
married
Satinik, princess of the Ossetian Alans
Tigranes VI, King of Armenia [161 - 180] (d 180)
Vologases V, King of Parthia [191 - 208] and Armenia [180 - 191] (d
208)
Good luck with further research!
Matthew
research on this line, and, with special thanks to Mommaerts and Prof.
Kelley, I have this based mainly on old Armenian writers:
Vonones II, King of Parthia [AD 51], King of Media [AD 11 - AD 51],
his ancestry is speculated by Settipani
married
a Greek concubine
Vologases I, King of Parthia [AD 51 - AD 77], claimant to Adiabene in
AD 57
married
a daughter of Izat II, King of Adiabene
Meherdates, King of Armenia [AD 76] (d AD 76)
married
Hodda, Princess of Edessa and Armenia
Sanatruk, King of Armenia [AD 77 - AD 109], Edessa [AD 91 - AD 109],
and Adiabene
Vologases III, King of Parthia [108, 130 - 147] and Armenia [117 - 140]
(d 147)
married
Satinik, princess of the Ossetian Alans
Tigranes VI, King of Armenia [161 - 180] (d 180)
Vologases V, King of Parthia [191 - 208] and Armenia [180 - 191] (d
208)
Good luck with further research!
Matthew
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Gjest
Re: VOLOGAESES, kings of PARTHIA, before 200 A.D.
In a message dated 2/2/2005 11:59:41 PM Pacific Standard Time,
matthew_rockefeller@yahoo.com writes:
There is no such source as "old Armenian writers". You need to be a little
more exact if you want us to follow your lead.
Thanks
Will
matthew_rockefeller@yahoo.com writes:
The lineage you have is incorrect, provably so. I've been doing
research on this line, and, with special thanks to Mommaerts and Prof.
Kelley, I have this based mainly on old Armenian writers:
There is no such source as "old Armenian writers". You need to be a little
more exact if you want us to follow your lead.
Thanks
Will
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Matthew Rockefeller
Re: VOLOGAESES, kings of PARTHIA, before 200 A.D.
"Armenian tradition" was the term I believed that was used by Prof.
Kelley, so I just take for granted that it was written by old Armenian
writers and it to be considered trustworthy.
Matthew
Kelley, so I just take for granted that it was written by old Armenian
writers and it to be considered trustworthy.
Matthew
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Gjest
Re: VOLOGAESES, kings of PARTHIA, before 200 A.D.
""Armenian tradition" was the term I believed that was used by Prof. Kelley, so I just take for granted that it was written by old Armenian writers and it to be considered trustworthy."
A) Wrong
B) Give a complete bibliographic citation. A citation is not "Armenian tradition". A citation is to a source that is specific.
Will Johnson
A) Wrong
B) Give a complete bibliographic citation. A citation is not "Armenian tradition". A citation is to a source that is specific.
Will Johnson
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Arkadiusz Bugaj
Re: VOLOGAESES, kings of PARTHIA, before 200 A.D.
Uzytkownik ""l.akershoek"" <l.akershoek@hccnet.nl> napisal w wiadomosci
news:000001c506f9$d0cff480$0a22fb3e@uw1gnt0xr24eso...
CAN YOU FIND ANY????
Cheers
Arkadiusz
news:000001c506f9$d0cff480$0a22fb3e@uw1gnt0xr24eso...
Dear member of this GM-newsgroup.
I know I am looking for info far before the medieval period, but I do not
know where else I can send my question too and hope for a response.
My question:
In order for me to make sure that I insert my correct (as far as possible)
ancestors, can someone confirm that Vologases I, II, and III are children
of each other?? and thus part of three successive generations, rather
than the same names of four Parthian kings?
Here's what I have regarding these four Partnian kings, named: Vologases
Vologases I, King of Parthia. Died AD 77/78, son of the previous king,
Vonones II,
by an (unknown te me) Greek(??) concubine.
Vologases I has two brothers: Pacorus and Tiridates
Vologases II , died (174 ??)
Vologases III, King of Parthia (d. 192)
He was succeeded by his son Vologases IV
Vologases IV, King of Parthia in ancient Persia, reigned (191-208/209)
Your reply will be highly appreciated.
Kindest regards,
-\!!/-
{o o}
( _ )
'''''
_ooO0_______0Ooo_
Leo Akershoek
My hobbies?
Digging-up my medieval ancestors (before 1200);
CAN YOU FIND ANY????
Cheers
Arkadiusz