Authorship rights, good faith, politeness

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Francisco Antonio Doria

Authorship rights, good faith, politeness

Legg inn av Francisco Antonio Doria » 29 jan 2005 11:01:02

The ancestry of El Cid is frequently discussed in this
list, and so, when Ana Varela kindly sent me Margarita
Torres' paper, I mentioned it in a post a few days
ago, and thought of making it generally available, as
I've regularly done in the past.

Let me add that I've been extremely busy of late: the
Muhammad book is with the editor, who will be sending
me his comments soon; professionally, I'm also
writing a book on my mathematical research in the last
twenty years for a German/American publisher, and
still must prepare a couple of talks I'll give in
Europe in March. So, the free time I have to enjoy the
posts in gen-med is very restricted. But I always look
through it.

As an author, I certainly do not wish to have my
author's rights to be disrespected, and respect my
colleague's rights. But I've learned that the web is a
new place with new concepts and questions. For
instance, you can download for a fee from the site of
the publisher's the full text of my 1977 PhD thesis.
But as there is a sort of agreement - I just use it, I
don't have the full details - between our NRF and a
collective of science publishers over the world, I can
have the same document for free if I get it through
university channels - I just have to e-mail my
librarian for it, or, if I'm in the university's
premises, to use a computer physically connected to
the local intranet with the right IP. So, what was
available for a fee to the general public becomes
available for free to a member of the university and
research community. I of course distribute it as I
would distribute reprints, preprints and xerocopies of
my papers.

My own policy is: if it is in the web, you won't be
able to control it. So, use this availability - with a
few due caveats, like reasonable caution, mention of
the source, and the like.

And - this is essential. A late friend, who was
several times a cabinet minister in my country, and
who once created a very small bureau called ``the
ministry of anti-red-tape'' used to tell me: always
presume tthat people act in good faith. For the vast
majority of people do in fact act in good faith.

And, he concluded, be polite; be very polite indeed.
Makes social interaction easier, leaves a good
impression - and very likely politeness will get you
what you want.

All the best to you all, dear friends,

Francisco Antonio Doria



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Peter Stewart

Re: Authorship rights, good faith, politeness

Legg inn av Peter Stewart » 29 jan 2005 11:04:12

I'm sure that you, Ian and Leo all acted in good faith, Chico - that was not
in question.

Peter Stewart


"Francisco Antonio Doria" <franciscoantoniodoria@yahoo.com.br> wrote in
message news:20050129095804.38627.qmail@web30908.mail.mud.yahoo.com...
The ancestry of El Cid is frequently discussed in this
list, and so, when Ana Varela kindly sent me Margarita
Torres' paper, I mentioned it in a post a few days
ago, and thought of making it generally available, as
I've regularly done in the past.

Let me add that I've been extremely busy of late: the
Muhammad book is with the editor, who will be sending
me his comments soon; professionally, I'm also
writing a book on my mathematical research in the last
twenty years for a German/American publisher, and
still must prepare a couple of talks I'll give in
Europe in March. So, the free time I have to enjoy the
posts in gen-med is very restricted. But I always look
through it.

As an author, I certainly do not wish to have my
author's rights to be disrespected, and respect my
colleague's rights. But I've learned that the web is a
new place with new concepts and questions. For
instance, you can download for a fee from the site of
the publisher's the full text of my 1977 PhD thesis.
But as there is a sort of agreement - I just use it, I
don't have the full details - between our NRF and a
collective of science publishers over the world, I can
have the same document for free if I get it through
university channels - I just have to e-mail my
librarian for it, or, if I'm in the university's
premises, to use a computer physically connected to
the local intranet with the right IP. So, what was
available for a fee to the general public becomes
available for free to a member of the university and
research community. I of course distribute it as I
would distribute reprints, preprints and xerocopies of
my papers.

My own policy is: if it is in the web, you won't be
able to control it. So, use this availability - with a
few due caveats, like reasonable caution, mention of
the source, and the like.

And - this is essential. A late friend, who was
several times a cabinet minister in my country, and
who once created a very small bureau called ``the
ministry of anti-red-tape'' used to tell me: always
presume tthat people act in good faith. For the vast
majority of people do in fact act in good faith.

And, he concluded, be polite; be very polite indeed.
Makes social interaction easier, leaves a good
impression - and very likely politeness will get you
what you want.

All the best to you all, dear friends,

Francisco Antonio Doria



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Francisco Antonio Doria

Re: Authorship rights, good faith, politeness

Legg inn av Francisco Antonio Doria » 29 jan 2005 15:50:02

OK, Peter. Thanks for the comment.

Best, chico

--- Peter Stewart <p_m_stewart@msn.com> wrote:

I'm sure that you, Ian and Leo all acted in good
faith, Chico - that was not
in question.

Peter Stewart


"Francisco Antonio Doria"
franciscoantoniodoria@yahoo.com.br> wrote in
message

news:20050129095804.38627.qmail@web30908.mail.mud.yahoo.com...

The ancestry of El Cid is frequently discussed in
this
list, and so, when Ana Varela kindly sent me
Margarita
Torres' paper, I mentioned it in a post a few days
ago, and thought of making it generally available,
as
I've regularly done in the past.

Let me add that I've been extremely busy of late:
the
Muhammad book is with the editor, who will be
sending
me his comments soon; professionally, I'm also
writing a book on my mathematical research in the
last
twenty years for a German/American publisher, and
still must prepare a couple of talks I'll give in
Europe in March. So, the free time I have to enjoy
the
posts in gen-med is very restricted. But I always
look
through it.

As an author, I certainly do not wish to have my
author's rights to be disrespected, and respect my
colleague's rights. But I've learned that the web
is a
new place with new concepts and questions. For
instance, you can download for a fee from the site
of
the publisher's the full text of my 1977 PhD
thesis.
But as there is a sort of agreement - I just use
it, I
don't have the full details - between our NRF and
a
collective of science publishers over the world, I
can
have the same document for free if I get it
through
university channels - I just have to e-mail my
librarian for it, or, if I'm in the university's
premises, to use a computer physically connected
to
the local intranet with the right IP. So, what was
available for a fee to the general public becomes
available for free to a member of the university
and
research community. I of course distribute it as I
would distribute reprints, preprints and
xerocopies of
my papers.

My own policy is: if it is in the web, you won't
be
able to control it. So, use this availability -
with a
few due caveats, like reasonable caution, mention
of
the source, and the like.

And - this is essential. A late friend, who was
several times a cabinet minister in my country,
and
who once created a very small bureau called ``the
ministry of anti-red-tape'' used to tell me:
always
presume tthat people act in good faith. For the
vast
majority of people do in fact act in good faith.

And, he concluded, be polite; be very polite
indeed.
Makes social interaction easier, leaves a good
impression - and very likely politeness will get
you
what you want.

All the best to you all, dear friends,

Francisco Antonio Doria



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D. Spencer Hines

Re: Authorship Rights, Good Faith, Politeness

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 29 jan 2005 19:20:02

Well Said...

This has been a tempest in a teapot generated by an ankle-biter with
overactive hormones, a touch of paranoia and a rotting brain.

'Nuff Said.

It's this sort of malicious kefuffle that leads people NOT to go out of
their way to post things to the web.

There is always some jerk who will come up with a petty objection and
make an innocent act of kindness appear to have been a stupid blunder.

We don't need it.

D. Spencer Hines

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Vires et Honor

"Francisco Antonio Doria" <franciscoantoniodoria@yahoo.com.br> wrote in
message news:20050129095804.38627.qmail@web30908.mail.mud.yahoo.com...
|
| The ancestry of El Cid is frequently discussed in this
| list, and so, when Ana Varela kindly sent me Margarita
| Torres' paper, I mentioned it in a post a few days
| ago, and thought of making it generally available, as
| I've regularly done in the past.
|
| Let me add that I've been extremely busy of late: the
| Muhammad book is with the editor, who will be sending
| me his comments soon; professionally, I'm also
| writing a book on my mathematical research in the last
| twenty years for a German/American publisher, and
| still must prepare a couple of talks I'll give in
| Europe in March. So, the free time I have to enjoy the
| posts in gen-med is very restricted. But I always look
| through it.
|
| As an author, I certainly do not wish to have my
| author's rights to be disrespected, and respect my
| colleague's rights. But I've learned that the web is a
| new place with new concepts and questions. For
| instance, you can download for a fee from the site of
| the publisher's the full text of my 1977 PhD thesis.
| But as there is a sort of agreement - I just use it, I
| don't have the full details - between our NRF and a
| collective of science publishers over the world, I can
| have the same document for free if I get it through
| university channels - I just have to e-mail my
| librarian for it, or, if I'm in the university's
| premises, to use a computer physically connected to
| the local intranet with the right IP. So, what was
| available for a fee to the general public becomes
| available for free to a member of the university and
| research community. I of course distribute it as I
| would distribute reprints, preprints and xerocopies of
| my papers.
|
| My own policy is: if it is in the web, you won't be
| able to control it. So, use this availability - with a
| few due caveats, like reasonable caution, mention of
| the source, and the like.
|
| And - this is essential. A late friend, who was
| several times a cabinet minister in my country, and
| who once created a very small bureau called ``the
| ministry of anti-red-tape'' used to tell me: always
| presume tthat people act in good faith. For the vast
| majority of people do in fact act in good faith.
|
| And, he concluded, be polite; be very polite indeed.
| Makes social interaction easier, leaves a good
| impression - and very likely politeness will get you
| what you want.
|
| All the best to you all, dear friends,
|
| Francisco Antonio Doria

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