Michael W Cook <nuffspam@hotmail.c> exclaimed..
On 16/1/05 5:51 pm, in article Y66dnbzbQOcGNHfcRVn-1w@giganews.com, "hippo"
<hippo@southsudan.net> wrote:
You are kidding, right? Do you really think that if the settlements were to
be abandoned Hezbollah, Hamas, and the several Palestinian nationalist and
fundamentalist organizations are going to abandon their jihad?
Their Jihad is perfectly legitimate, they have a foreign army occupying
their land killing their people and destroying their houses. Their struggle
is as right as the French Resistance was against the Nazis in WWII.
Now if Israel were to remove ALL the illegal settlements, and withdraw All
troops to the pre-67 borders, then there would be a grounding for peace.
Until then, let them reap the rewards as an illegal occupying power, they
get no sympathy from me.
If you do you
are sadly mistaken. They exist for perpetuating the conflict just like the
leadership of any terrorist organization.
And what of the lunatic settlers armed to the teeth ?
The roads built on Arab land for Jews only ?
The people who occupy these settlements are as fanatical and as mad as any
Nazi or Islamic Fundamentalist.
Then of course we have Israel dropping 1000IB bombs onto residential blocks
of flats - is that not terrorism ?
The illegal assassination of 'Suspect' terrorists - no attempt is EVER made
to arrest them and put them on trial for these alleged activities.
Suspect - Shoot them - Just like the Nazis.
Crowded Market Place - Suspect - Send a missile or tank shell in there.
Then we have the killing of innocent children.
Go to Amnesty International's web site and do a search on 'Palestinian
Children' the accounts of the hundreds of kids who have been murdered by the
IDF will quite shock you.
Or perhaps it won't.
However, nobody is ever charged or held to account for these murders.
Shall I go on ?
The destruction of Palestinian Businesses, Crops, Orchards.
The Bulldozing of houses as a form of 'Collective' punishment.
Suspects held without trial. The torturing of these suspects.
Etc etc etc.............
It is their life purpose and
access for their leadership to power and money. While we agree about the
disruptive acts of radical Zionists, they have nothing on radical Islamic
jihadists and they represent a far smaller percentage of the population from
which they come. In several weeks in Israel I never met even one Zionist.
You are joking I hope.
99.9% of Jews in the world support Zionism.
I, however, do not.
The IDF at present strengths will be necessary for the foreseeable future.
Best they pull out of the Occupied Territories and bulldoze the illegal
settlements, then they wouldn't need so many of them.
Israel will never truly be safe because of the unpredictable future
attitudes of politically unstable neighboring states as well as the ongoing
terrorist threat.
That was a fact recognised by everyone when the Zionist State was formed,
but the guilt of the Western powers after the war got the better of them and
clouded their judgement.
Israel should never have been allowed to exist as a homeland for the Jews,
and if it wasn't for the US propping it up it would have disappeared long
ago, and that would have saved the whole world a hell of a lot of grief.
Your original post called a poster a mercenary for serving in the IDF which
is simply wrong regardless of the legality of Israeli occupation of
Palestinian territory.
MWC
And where, pray tell us, should the Jews have called home? Bringing this (somewhat)
back to Medieval topics, the Jews were run out and around every European kindom and
Principality they tried to DARE call home ever since the Romans crushed Judea in 70AD!
And, in the Middle East and Africa, things were not really any better!
Then, there was Worls War 2, which showed Anti-Semitism at its worst, and not only
it Germany, but elsewhere!!
Then, there was America, spec., the USA (my home). We never killed Jews just for being
Jews (as far as I know), but the USA hahad a streak of Anti-Semitism in it, as virulent (at
least) as Great Britian.At times.
So... where would you have the Jew settle down to say, "I am home"?
Just a thought
Kelly Paul Graham