After a month long sabbatical I was debating on what to post. I've
immersed myself in spiritual and genealogical study as well. I've
seemingly put my Irish Clan Chief book on ultimate suspension. Maybe
I'll return to it one day, but I've got other genealogical projects
underway at the current time. That being said I will post what I have
on the O'Conor Don's pedigree. I have traced him back no further than
Conn of the Hundred Battles, beyond whom the legends abound I'm told.
Since it is a little long I will post it in two posts, so it will
hopefully appear on both the newsgroup and rootsweb.
O'Conor of Connaught
Chief: Desmond Roderic O'Conor, The O'Conor Don, Prince of Connaught
Clan Motto: Gaelic - Ó Dhia Gach Aon Cabhair; English - From God Every
Help
Clan History:
The O'Conors of Connaught reigned for a thousand years in Connaught.
They are descended from Brian, the brother of the great Niall of the
Nine Hostages, who was probably the first true high-king.
The O'Conors, along with the O'Neills, are considered by some to be the
heirs to the Irish kingship, but of course it was not strictly
hereditary among any one family, although some of the last high-kings
were among the O'Conor and O'Neill families, who dominated Ireland. It
was in fact the ancestors of the O'Neills and McLaughlins who held the
high-kingship from the days of yore.
Lineage of the current Chief:
Conn "of the Hundred Battles", King of Tara (d 205)
married
Eithne, daughter of Cathair "the Great", King of Tara, King of Leinster
Art "the Lone", King of Tara (d 225)
married
Eachtach, daughter of Uilceathach "the Smith"
Cormac "Longbeard" "The Magnificent", King of Tara (d 277)
married
Eithne, daughter of Dunlong, King of Leinster
Cairpre "of the Liffey", King of Tara (d 287)
married
Hvarfiadh, daughter of Eochaid "Gunnait", King of Tara
Fiacha II "of the Thunder Storms", King of Tara (d 323)
married
Aeoifa, daughter of Cole II, King of Britain and Strada "the Fair",
Princess of Britain
Muiredach "the Shining", King of Tara (d 356)
married
Muirion, daughter of Fiachadh, King of Ulster
Eochu "of the Captives", King of Tara (d 389)
married
Mongfind, daughter of Findach mac Daire, Prince of Munster
Brian, King of Connaught (d 397)
Duach "Galach", King of Connaught (d 438)
Eoghan "Srem", King of Connaught (d 464)
Muiredach "Mal" (d 489)
Fergus, King of Connaught (d 517)
Eochu "Timrim", King of Connaught (d 551)
Aedh, King of Connaught (d 577)
Uata, King of Connaught (d 602)
Rogallach, King of Connaught (d 649)
married
Muireann, daughter of Mael Duin mac Suibne, a descendant of Niall of
the Nine Hostages
Fergus (d 654)
Muiredach "the Flat-Headed", King of Connaught (d 702)
married
Cacht, daughter of Maelbrighde mac Mothlachan
Indrechtach, King of Connaught (d 723)
Murgal (d 751)
Tomaltach (d 774)
Muirgius, King of Connaught (d 815)
Tadhg "the Great", King of Connaught (d 841)
Conor, King of Connaught [848 - 882] (d 882)
Cathal, King of Connaught [900 - 925] (d 925)
Tadhg "of the Three Towers", King of Connaught [925 - 956] (d 956)
married
Cres, daughter of Urchad, King of West Connaught
Conor, King of Connaught [966 - 973] (d 973)
Cathal, King of Connaught [973 - 1001] (d 1010), abdicated and became a
monk
married
Sadhbh O'Kelly, daughter of Aedh O'Kelly, King of Hy-Many
Tadhg "of the White Steed" O'Conor, King of Connaught [1015 - 1030] (d
1030), assumed the name O'Conor
married
Dirborgaill (d 1098), daughter of Tadhg, Prince of Ossory
Aedh "of the Broken Spear" O'Conor, King of Connaught [1030 - 1067] (d
1067)
married
Cailleach O'Fallon, daughter of Acan O'Fallon, Chief of Clan Uadach
Rory "of the Yellow Hound" O'Conor, King of Connaught [1067 - 1092] (d
1118), blinded by O'Flaherty in 1092, which brought an end to his reign
married
Mor O'Brien (d 1088), daughter of Turlough "the Great" O'Brien, High
King of Ireland, King of Munster
Turlough "the Great" O'Conor, High King of Ireland [1121 - 1150], King
of Connaught [1106 - 1156] (1088 - May 20, 1156)
married 1131
Dirborgaill (d 1151), daughter of Donnell McLoughlin, High King of
Ireland
The O'Conor of Connaught, Part 1
Moderator: MOD_nyhetsgrupper
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Kelsey Williams
Re: The O'Conor of Connaught, Part 1
Hello,
Cathal Crobderg, with whom you begin the second portion of this post,
was not a son of Dearborgaill ni Lochlain (who d. 1151 at Ard Macha -
Annals of the Four Masters). The only attested sons she had [1] were
Domnall Midech (d. 1176), Aed Dall (blinded 1136) and Cathal Miguran
(d. 1152) (all dates from the Annals of Tigernach). Furthermore, he
could hardly have been her son as she died in 1151 and he was not born
until ca. 1152 (based upon the age given in the Annals of Connacht obit
for him). Therefore, his mother is regrettably unknown, at least to
me. She might have been Sadb ni Fallamhain or Cailleach ni Edin, other
wives of Toirrdelbach, but I have found no proofs to support this.
Sincerely,
Kelsey J. Williams
[1] Attested in Margaret C. Dobbs (ed.), "The Ban-Shenchus," _Revue
Celtique_ 48 (1931), p. 191: "Dirborgaill ingen Domnaill m. Lochlaind,
mathair Domnaill 7 Aeda 7 Cathail tri meic Thairrdelbaig hUi
Chonchobair." Note that Dobbs incorrectly identifies this Cathal with
Cathal Crobderg, apparently because she was unaware of the separate
existence of Cathal Miguran as proved by the annals and by the listing
of the children of Toirrdelbach Mor in O'Clery's _Book of Genealogies_
(R.I.A. MS. 23 D 17, par. 894).
Matthew Rockefeller wrote:
<snip>
<snip>
Cathal Crobderg, with whom you begin the second portion of this post,
was not a son of Dearborgaill ni Lochlain (who d. 1151 at Ard Macha -
Annals of the Four Masters). The only attested sons she had [1] were
Domnall Midech (d. 1176), Aed Dall (blinded 1136) and Cathal Miguran
(d. 1152) (all dates from the Annals of Tigernach). Furthermore, he
could hardly have been her son as she died in 1151 and he was not born
until ca. 1152 (based upon the age given in the Annals of Connacht obit
for him). Therefore, his mother is regrettably unknown, at least to
me. She might have been Sadb ni Fallamhain or Cailleach ni Edin, other
wives of Toirrdelbach, but I have found no proofs to support this.
Sincerely,
Kelsey J. Williams
[1] Attested in Margaret C. Dobbs (ed.), "The Ban-Shenchus," _Revue
Celtique_ 48 (1931), p. 191: "Dirborgaill ingen Domnaill m. Lochlaind,
mathair Domnaill 7 Aeda 7 Cathail tri meic Thairrdelbaig hUi
Chonchobair." Note that Dobbs incorrectly identifies this Cathal with
Cathal Crobderg, apparently because she was unaware of the separate
existence of Cathal Miguran as proved by the annals and by the listing
of the children of Toirrdelbach Mor in O'Clery's _Book of Genealogies_
(R.I.A. MS. 23 D 17, par. 894).
Matthew Rockefeller wrote:
<snip>
Turlough "the Great" O'Conor, High King of Ireland [1121 - 1150],
King
of Connaught [1106 - 1156] (1088 - May 20, 1156)
married 1131
Dirborgaill (d 1151), daughter of Donnell McLoughlin, High King of
Ireland
<snip>
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Re: The O'Conor of Connaught, Part 1
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Matthew Rockefeller
Re: The O'Conor of Connaught, Part 1
Thanks Kelsey, hopefully that is the only error. I will make the
correction in the pedigree. It must be because there are two Cathals,
brothers, that is the root of confusion.
Matthew
correction in the pedigree. It must be because there are two Cathals,
brothers, that is the root of confusion.
Matthew
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Matthew Rockefeller
Re: The O'Conor of Connaught, Part 1
Thanks Kelsey, hopefully that is the only error. I will make the
correction in the pedigree. It must be that there were two Cathals,
brothers, where there is confusion lies.
Matthew
correction in the pedigree. It must be that there were two Cathals,
brothers, where there is confusion lies.
Matthew
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Stewart Baldwin
Re: The O'Conor of Connaught, Part 1
On 5 Jan 2005 20:39:47 -0800, "Matthew Rockefeller"
<matthew_rockefeller@yahoo.com> wrote:
It is far from the only error, of which there are many throughout.
First, whatever your source was for the early generations, you should
avoid using that source. Presenting Conn of the Hundred Battles as if
he were a person who actually existed is bad enough. Assigning an
exact date of death to such a mythical character is even worse, and a
source making such statements should be taken with a big grain of
salt. The genealogy of the Ua Conchobar branch of the Uí Briúin is
probably OK back to about Eochu Tirmcharna (father of Áed, father of
Uatu, etc.) in the sixth century. Eochu was probably descended from a
man named Brión as the name of the sept implies, but that Brión was
much more likely to have lived in the fifth rather than the fourth
century, and it has long been noted that the earlier part of the Uí
Briúin genealogy is problematic. The history of Connacht prior to the
seventh century is extremely obscure.
Stewart Baldwin
<matthew_rockefeller@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks Kelsey, hopefully that is the only error.
It is far from the only error, of which there are many throughout.
First, whatever your source was for the early generations, you should
avoid using that source. Presenting Conn of the Hundred Battles as if
he were a person who actually existed is bad enough. Assigning an
exact date of death to such a mythical character is even worse, and a
source making such statements should be taken with a big grain of
salt. The genealogy of the Ua Conchobar branch of the Uí Briúin is
probably OK back to about Eochu Tirmcharna (father of Áed, father of
Uatu, etc.) in the sixth century. Eochu was probably descended from a
man named Brión as the name of the sept implies, but that Brión was
much more likely to have lived in the fifth rather than the fourth
century, and it has long been noted that the earlier part of the Uí
Briúin genealogy is problematic. The history of Connacht prior to the
seventh century is extremely obscure.
Stewart Baldwin