Question on Alice ?, wife of John FitzRoger

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Question on Alice ?, wife of John FitzRoger

Legg inn av Gjest » 05 jan 2005 01:59:15

I was wondering if anyone knows the surname of John FitzRoger's wife
Alice. They had a daughter, Elizabeth, born about 15 Aug 1370 that
married John Bonville. While going through Vivian's Visitations of
Cornwall, I came across an Alice Carminow, daughter of Ralph Carminow
and Alice, who had a daughter Elizabeth and grandson, William Bonville.
Would this Elizabeth be Elizabeth FitzRoger? Thanks for any help.
Carrie

Peter Stewart

Re: Question on Alice ?, wife of John FitzRoger

Legg inn av Peter Stewart » 05 jan 2005 03:47:58

<schanca1@aol.com> wrote in message
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I was wondering if anyone knows the surname of John FitzRoger's wife
Alice. They had a daughter, Elizabeth, born about 15 Aug 1370 that
married John Bonville. While going through Vivian's Visitations of
Cornwall, I came across an Alice Carminow, daughter of Ralph Carminow
and Alice, who had a daughter Elizabeth and grandson, William Bonville.
Would this Elizabeth be Elizabeth FitzRoger? Thanks for any help.

I'm not sure that her surname is known - I recall seeing her called Alice
Cheddar but on what authority I have no idea.

A series of brief articles on the Bonville (called Bonvyle) family appeared
in _Notes & Queries_, 5th series, that is available online (I can't find the
URL at present, someone else no doubt can help) - by SWYL in no. 6 (December
1876) p. 447, by Sir John Maclean in no. 7 (January 1877) p. 52, and by BW
Greenfield in nos. 7 ( (March 1877) pp. 231-232] & 8 (December 1877) pp.
431-432. Maybe the answer is there.

Peter Stewart

Gjest

Re: Question on Alice ?, wife of John FitzRoger

Legg inn av Gjest » 05 jan 2005 05:42:24

Peter Stewart wrote:
schanca1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1104886755.906651.19570@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
I was wondering if anyone knows the surname of John FitzRoger's wife
Alice. They had a daughter, Elizabeth, born about 15 Aug 1370 that
married John Bonville. While going through Vivian's Visitations of
Cornwall, I came across an Alice Carminow, daughter of Ralph
Carminow
and Alice, who had a daughter Elizabeth and grandson, William
Bonville.
Would this Elizabeth be Elizabeth FitzRoger? Thanks for any help.

I'm not sure that her surname is known - I recall seeing her called
Alice
Cheddar but on what authority I have no idea.

A series of brief articles on the Bonville (called Bonvyle) family
appeared
in _Notes & Queries_, 5th series, that is available online (I can't
find the
URL at present, someone else no doubt can help) - by SWYL in no. 6
(December
1876) p. 447, by Sir John Maclean in no. 7 (January 1877) p. 52, and
by BW
Greenfield in nos. 7 ( (March 1877) pp. 231-232] & 8 (December 1877)
pp.
431-432. Maybe the answer is there.

Peter Stewart

Gjest

Re: Question on Alice ?, wife of John FitzRoger

Legg inn av Gjest » 05 jan 2005 05:46:05

The Alice the wife of John Fitz Roger isn't known. All that is known of
her is that she was married five times and her last husband was Sir
William Bonville 1340-1408. The name of Cheddar I recall is the name of
one of her husband. I hope this helps.
Mike Welch

Sutliff

Re: Question on Alice ?, wife of John FitzRoger

Legg inn av Sutliff » 05 jan 2005 06:56:44

Alice's five husbands were:

John FitzRoger of Chewton, Somerset d. bef. 1372
Sir Edmund de Clyvedon d. 1376
Sir Ralph Carminowe of Carminowe and Boconnoc, Cornwall d. 1386
Sir John Rodney of Rodney Stoke and Backwell, Somerset d. 1400
Sir William Bonville of Shute, Devonshire d. 1408

She died 1426. Sir John Rodney's first wife was Katherine Cheddar of Bristol
which is where that connection or suggested identity may have come from.

HS

<mwelch8442@aol.com> wrote in message
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The Alice the wife of John Fitz Roger isn't known. All that is known of
her is that she was married five times and her last husband was Sir
William Bonville 1340-1408. The name of Cheddar I recall is the name of
one of her husband. I hope this helps.
Mike Welch

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